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Oxycotin Detox

by CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
This board was suggested to me by a friend and I am so glad that I have found it. I have read most of the previous Oxy questions but still would like some additional help.

I had back surgery about a year ago and was prescribed percocet for the pain. Eventually my doctor took me off of that and said that he would not ruin my life with pain meds. Now comes the tricky part! I have also been sharing the perks with my girlfriend who consumes the same amount as I. We were now taking about seven perks apiece a day. My Doctor said that he would not "ruin my life" but he knew of a pain managment doctor who would. I went to this doctor and was amazed at how eaisly he wrote out scripts. Immediatly he put me on 20mg 2x a day (oxycotin) and gave me an additional 40 perks a month for break-through pain. Which by the way I have none of. Anyway, we started eating this pills slowly at first but were eventually up to about 80-100mg. a day. Needless to say when you times this addiction by two it gets very expensive when you run out. We took this medication for about four months and then one day last week realized how theese pills were ruining our lives. Everything from not having sex (I am 28, she is 26) to not being able to function without the pills. I am on workmans comp and have alot of free time, she does not work. We would wake up every day...peel two 20's each and chew them up before even getting out of bed. After that we would "fly" around town doing a whole lot of nothing. Sorry to ramble on but we really have no one else to talk to disscuss this with. Today is day seven, we are pretty much detoxed in the sence that we can now go out of the house but my girlfriend still experiences cold chills and sweats during the night but she is slowly getting better. She also takes xanax once in awhile to help with this. Remeber I get 60 oxy 20's and 40 perks a month. Now is the hard part. I have the next two month scripts sitting on my desk waiting to be filled. I want to know what we should do in order to stay off of this stuff? Please do not suggest any AA type support groups as we are not about the whole group thing. We are however very serious about this so please do not take our not wanting to go to NA as a sign of us not wanting to quit. When you consider that if you sit at home and chew a couple of them little devils up EVERYTHING in life is interesting. Without them, we find ourselves bored and depressed. Will this pass? Will we be able to enjoy and be interested in things as we were on the pills? Two nights ago I went to see a concert totaly straight and was bored out of my mind. The show itself was great but I kept imagining how much better it would have been on Oxy's. I would like to know if there is anyone out there that is having the same problems as we are and if anyone got through it to the point were they now enjoy life to the fullist? Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and I look forward to your replies.
Member Comments (112)

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
I've been there and done that.  My wife and I have shared meds over the years and we thought that we had a wonderful time I suppose. Sex goes out the window first of all because you get your rocks off with the rush of opiates. We did a lot of senseless things to pass the time as do you. Some of these things were absolutely dangerous(like driving). Yes, you probably will be depressed at first and nonfunctional. And this may last for months. I had to move away from my wife eventually to save my own skin. We were simply bad for each other. We had to go our own ways to be able to heal ourselves. If you really love each other you may someday be able to get back together as we have. I won't mention NA or AA so don't worry. But they will always be there for you in case you change your mind. We got help from every imaginable source once we admitted that we needed it and wanted it. In my humble opinion, the life you lead in recovery is a much vaster adventure than anything you will experience on OXY. I'm sure that some of our other more learned posters can enlighten you further, but the message remains the same. Good luck with all!

by Gene to Joanne, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
You guys are lucky to have found out so fast how bad taking Oxyontin for pleasure can be.  I was up to 4 80's a day (black market) & I peeled them too for maximum effect.  I ran out of money shortly after I ran out of sex drive & knew I had to stop the madness.  I chose to go to a detox program because I could not handle the withdrawal on my own.  You guys are already detoxed so you are way ahead of the game!

After 5 weeks of being off opiates, I am definitely starting to feel better!  It is a slow & uncomfortable recovery but I do feel a lot better than a week or 2 ago.  I choose to go to AA meetings every day to keep me from going back to opiates.  That is a real danger to anyone who takes them for fun. The meetings really work for me.  I do miss Oxy in some ways but after 28 years of using various drugs, I am ready to stay sober.  Giving up Oxy's was the hardest thing I have ever done & I am so glad I did.  My sex drive is back, I don't have to worry about having a constant supply of pills to prevent the terrible withdrawal I would certainly go through if I missed a dose, & I feel a lot better about myself.



You should toss the scripts & start living life as you were both meant to - straight!  It's a much better way of life, simpler, cheaper, healthier.



Good luck to you both!

by joedice, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
hi chad, your problem sounds like mine, except i have been going through this f-in battle for 10 years with the oxy & vicodon. i have quit many times.... the hard part is not (quiting).../ its staying of the stuff.i,m back on them again and that is my life wondering where my next script is coming from .i have been to so many doctors i finley ran out of them. before you get in as deep as i, now is the time to make up your mind and nip it before you go any further, your young and i,m sure you can do it, me i,m 46 and the last ten years i aged 30 years.my girl takes them too but she is iron willed and has no problem with addiction.,..believe me its true.. as far as aa & na i,m not into that ...all i can say is i wish you all the faith and strenth to do what you can to beat it...yours always joe>>>>>

by Bob K, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
Chad I think that I can safely say that I have gotten thru it to the point where I am enjoying life again. Tomorrow will be six weeks for me without oxycontin. I was addicted to oxys for nine months and darvocets, percs, and vikes for at least ten years before that. I think you know what the right thing to do with your script is. Seven days is a long long way from where you were. I know that it is different with everyone but my weakness and tired all the time feeling started to subside after about three weeks. I also know what you mean about the concert. I always played guitar and reached the point where music was unbearable. I am happy to say I recently re strung my three instruments and started a new project. I also never made it to a meeting I think I was too tired. I do believe that the time I spend here is very good therapy. Keep posting so we know how you and your girlfriend are doing. GOOD LUCK  BOB K

by CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
Thank you all so very much! I must admit as I sit here at 9pm on this beautiful Friday night I am so very temted to indulge. Only the will of my girlfriend and I is stopping me. I hope no one judges me the wrong way for this but I even considered meth tonight. I sat outside almost trying to talk her in to getting some (it's right around the corner) to kind of reward ourselves for doing so good. I know that sounds sick to some of you and she is sitting right next to me telling me not to write this because some of you might think of us as bad people, but I feel it is important to convey ALL of my feelings so that this "sober" thing might actually work. Like I said before, I do not currently work so I tried to justify using crank as some sort of alternate high to pass the time. I suppose people like me will always try to find something. That is what is bothering us so bad. Can life be as great without any substance? Can I sit on the couch and laugh at a movie and not "feel" high. I sure hope so. You know what? I check this computer every few minutes in the hopes that someone else has replied. When I see a new message posted I call out to my girlfriend "look, someone else has responded" and it makes us so very happy. Any words from any of you are so very helpful! Thank you all, from the bottom of my heart!

by Bob K, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
Chad Meth will make you real real sick if you have opiate addiction. Good Health. BobK

by Ronnie, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
Chad,



You are a lucky man to have a iron willed girlfriend who will support you through this.

Are you able to exercise at all? Walking, running, tennis, basketball...swimming....anything that will make  your body and mind feel better? It really helps..honest I have done it..



May I ask you if you drink alcohol as well?



If you are abusing opiates and have no pain as you say, the best thing you could do would be to toss the scripts and seek some sort of counseling. The fact you would consider using street meth indicates you might be well off talking to someone who is trained in addiction.



You really sound like a smart guy from the way you have written the forum here.



Best of luck and what life has to offer.





Ronnie

by CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
Yes, we both drink the occasional beer. In reguards to the "meth urge" I had eairler this eveining, it is long gone! I go through these periods of just wanting to do something! We truly are trying to be strong but I must admidt it is so very hard. In the meantime we are sitting back listining to music on the computer. I suppose that we are pretending that both of us want nothing right now but you know what? I am happy as hell! I just hope that I can do this for both of us! I have wasted the last ten years on all sorts of stuff including something called GHB. Thats a whole other story but as for now I am so fed up with all the stuff that I have done in my life that I NEED to make this work! I am so very fortunate to have done so much bad yet still have so much including my girlfriend. THANKS GUYS!!! Keep it comming! PLEASE!!!!

by tom to Chad, Aug 18, 2000 12:00AM
It's hard to know what to say to you because I know very little about you and your life other than that you like drugs, have a girlfriend, are on workman's comp and have two scripts for more oxycodone. If you said you had a profession or played piano or collected stamps, I'd tell you that your boredom with all things not oxy will pass if you stay clean and that you should throw yourself into whatever it is you did that you were passionate about before you started the oxycontin. The thing is this: you're bored, have lots of time on your hands and, as we've discovered, are more than passingly familiar with drugs. What about your back? Do you expect to have any more pain from that? If you do, is there any doubt in your mind what you'll do about it? You like drugs the way I like drugs. Oxy just happened to be the one your health situation got for you. And as you said, the meth is just around the corner. I also note that you haven't suggested throwing the scripts away before you can fill them. At 28, you have a long way to go. The temptation to do drugs will not subside just because you quit oxy. The only way you'll avoid drugs in the future is to wholeheartedly pursue something that gives your life meaning. You will always be tempted to get high, and, chances are, will. You need to transfer your passion to something else or you will simply get bored again and get high. The danger of addiction will always be, like the meth, just around the corner. Chad, you're just a normal guy.

by Matt G., Aug 19, 2000 12:00AM
My girlfriend and I experience the same problem. It started two years ago when I injured my back severely and was prescribed Lortab 10's. I ve been taking Lortab's every day for the past two years until my girlfriend started getting oxycontin 40's for her boob job about 2 months ago. Weve both have always been prescribed Lortabs and xanax (me 2mg, her 1mg). Ive never used hardcore drugs in my life and now we are both getting up in the morning and peeling our 80 mg. oxy's and cooking them down into two shots and doing them intraveneously. I tried the other day to stop and just take my Lortabs, b/c every since i started taking oxys ive just dropped the Lortabs. Needless to say I was in a lot of pain and the Lortabs did nothing for me. What makes matters worse is that she just got paid 100,000 dollars in a settlement. We have been spending thousands on theese pills like they are nothing. I am at my wits end with theese pills! Im 21 and shes 27 and im starting school back this semester and want to do better for myself. Ive heard many recomendations for getting on a methadone maintenence program where you go in once a day and get your dose of methadone (usually a 28 to 30 day program) and this supposedly makes your detox somewhat better.

Right now im willing to try anything!!!! If you guys know anything about the methadone maintenece it would be great to here comments or experiences. Thanks for your time, whoever may be reading this

by Dee, Aug 19, 2000 12:00AM
I have posted my story here, go through the post's and find my 'story'....please please stop your roller coaster before it gets worse! Oxy's or as I call them 'Devil Pills' will make your life a living hell..you are still young to be able to find happiness without taking a pill..you must be strong, these pills in my opinion are the most addicting pills there are..once you get addicted not even perks will help with the withdrawal, they will control your every thought, mood,actions...I once heard someone say..anyone who is addicted to oxy's is addicted to Heroin, I laughed and thought no way would I ever do Heroin! well, guess what..they were right, all it is, is a synthetic Heroin...we feel the same and have the same withdrawal symtoms as a Heroin addict looking for there next fix....you have your whole lives in front of you..get out now when you can...think of the future, wanting to someday have a family, trust me, you will not be able to if you don't get clean now...best of luck, take care

by CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!, Aug 19, 2000 12:00AM
Well it's Saturday morning (11am) and I feel great! My girlfriend and I drank a couple of beers last night and went to bed. So, for that reason we are very proud of ourselves. On the other hand, the temtation is still there in the sence that we are now getting ready to go to the city to do some shopping. Normally the Oxy's would have kicked in by now and I would be flying around the apartment in that oh so familiar way. So doing this straight is a little weird. The hardest thing I had to do last week was go to the supermarket straight. Usually my girlfriend and I (don't laugh) would spend like 3 hours in that place! I know that might sound crazy to some of you but you got to understand how interesting all of the varitiy of tomato sause's can be when you got 100mg. of Oxy pumping through you. Now it's just like, get-in-get-out. Anyway, people keep asking me what I am going to do with the scripts. I know what I should do (burn them in some sort of symbolic mannor) but it is hard to throw away $1800 dollars. I hope you all know what I mean...Let's put it this way. I firmly believe that we can do this but we are scared to death! You know what? Tonight on HBO is boxing and I relate that hand in hand with being high. As matter of fact, I relate every damm thing as being high! So here we go again, another day another temtation. Most of all I want  everyone to know that every time I read someone's reply to my message's it makes us stronger! So thank you all so very much and keep em' comming!To Matt G. good luck my friend but I can tell you this, Detox under supervision because I didn't do half as much as you and it was the hardest thing I have ever had to do.

by To Lindy From Bonnie, Aug 19, 2000 12:00AM
My gosh Chad you are describing my life.I also am on oxycontin and percocet.I cant imagine not having them .they get me through the day.I also want to stop because they are running my life too,I wish i could give you the answer you are seeking but i guess i am also seeking that answer.I would love to chat with you about it sometime ,finally someone who knows exactly how i'mfeeling.Feel free to E-mail me at ***@**** for your time and good luck in your search for answers.

by tom to anyone left, Aug 19, 2000 12:00AM
so what's the story with this site? One new thread a day? how hard is it to archive some of these "dead" threads to get some discussion going?



If they're going to let this site die on the vine

Why don't they just go offline?