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Ultram with draw

by b lew, Aug 23, 2000 12:00AM
Until about a week ago I had been taking ultram during the evening only. I was taking about 150- 200mg. with in a three hour period. I was also taking the herb kava. A week ago last Sat. I had been up till about 2:30 in the morning doing paper work, I awoke about 7:00 and was on the go with not much to eat and a few cups of coffee, and some candy. I was in a department store at about 3:00 pm and felt light headed and thought that I was in need of something to eat. The next thing I knew I was in the back of an ambulance and was looing eye to eye with an E.M.T.

I had passed out and went into a seizure. I went to the hospital and had an, ekg, blood work, urine , and a cat scan, and everything came back normal. I had since cut my dosage to 50-75mg

of the ultram before I go to bed. I wanted to quit taking the ultram all together, but when I would go to bed I would feel very nervous and jittery.I'am trying to wean myself off the medication totally. I'am feeling some what cloudy during the day. My question is; is it a fuitless endever to try to wean my-self off this medication, and what I'am experincing is this possible drug with-draw? If so how long can I normally expect this to last. Any imput or suggestions will greatly be appreciated. Last night I took 75mg. of the ultram and slept well.
Member Comments (23)

by FROM JO TO KIM, Aug 23, 2000 12:00AM
WHY ARE YOU TAKING ULTRAM TO SLEEP ? ARE YOU IN PAIN?

by b lew, Aug 23, 2000 12:00AM
yes from an amputation

by FROM JO TO KIM, Aug 23, 2000 12:00AM
b lew, i am so sorry to hear that. How scary it must have been for you to have that experience. You know., utram is getting more and more of a bad rep. please be careful and let us know how you are. ifyou want to visit and get some support you may email me at ***@****

looking forward to hearing from you. I have been through hell and back and have big shoulders. :)

by barbara to pain and lortab, Aug 23, 2000 12:00AM


This is just my opinion but it sounds like you had a low blood sugar attack by the sounds of what led yp to your seizure.



Kava-Kava also has a strong effect on the CNS and could cause some problems mixing with Ultram.



I tried Kava-Kava for alcohol withdrawal and had seizures all day long. It sucked. I was saved the next day by my doctor who at that time gave me Librium. That was last November.



I have since had ove 100 seizures from alcohol withdrawal and seperate seizure disorder apparently covered up by the alcoholism.



I now take 50 mg of Ultram for chronic pain and mood elevation, 1 mg of Klonopin every four hour for seizures and anxiety disorder and 300 mg of Neurontin every day for seizures and anxiety.



It is a great combination and my body lets me know when I forget my meds. I shake and break!

by Stan, Aug 24, 2000 12:00AM
I recently told my doctor how I was feeling withdrawl symptoms from going through my oxycontin presciption to quickly.He is planning on weaning off them and putting me on ultram.Anyone have any similar experience.Oxy great for the back pain, but my use is escalating and I expressed my concern of addiction.Will ultram work for the pain after being on something as strong as oxy?I'm expecting some discomfort from the weaning.Anyone have anything to offer on the subject.

by barbara to pain and lortab, Aug 24, 2000 12:00AM


Stan, I can not compare Ultram to Oxy as I have never taken it. I have taken Tylenol 3 in the past and Advil worked better.



I do take Ultram now for chronic pain and it is excellent for me. It even has mood elevating characteristics similar to the narcotics even though it is non-narcotic.

by FROM JO TO KIM, Aug 24, 2000 12:00AM
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AND THOUGHT MAYBE I COULD FIND THE ANSWER HERE. MY SISTERIS AN ADDICT AND HER SOURCES HAVE DRIED UP. SO I THOUGHT. I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE SHE IS BUYING PERSCRIPTOINS OVER THE INTERNET. IS THAT POSSIBLE. I KNOW SHE TAKES LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY OUT OF THE BANK AT A TIME.I WANT TO HELP AND I AM AFFRAID FOR HER. I FIGURE IF I FOUND HER SOURSE I CAN INTERFERE. THANKING YOU AHEAD OF TIME

by tom to SAMMIE, Aug 24, 2000 12:00AM
if your motive is to save money, then I'd say go ahead. But if your intention is to save your sister from drugs, don't bother. Cutting off her source will just make her that much more desperate. Only your sister can make the decision to quit and seek help. She'll just keep using, only now she'll hate your guts and become more secretive. She has to hit bottom and consciously ask for help. You can do nothing. Sorry.

by To Sammie, Aug 27, 2000 12:00AM
Yes narcotics are available on the internet.I know people have ordered pills from Mexican pharmacies.Talk to her.Abruptly cutting her source will just send her elsewhere,perhaps into dangerous areas.She needs help,but sometimes the tough love approach isn't the best in this area.Best of luck.

by Brian to Sick and Scared § ALL you guys, Aug 28, 2000 12:00AM
Ultram is known to cause seizures in some patients.  Barbara is correct that combining Kava with Ultram is dangerous.  Combining Kava with any CNS depressant is dangerous and could potentiate the respiratory depression to a fatal level.  With respect to withdrawing from Ultram, go slowly reducing your dosage by about 10% every 3-4 days.  If you start feeling withdrawal symptoms, reduce even slower.  Ultram has a particularly bad withdrawal syndrome which can last longer than that of narcotics.  And, for all those who think they can safely use Ultram because it is not a narcotic--don't kid yourselves.  Ultram binds to the opiate receptors, is addictive and the withdrawal is bad.  Furthermore, there is a risk of seizures.  In my opinion it is not a very good drug due to these issues and due to the misperception that it is safe because it is not a narcotic.  It is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

by Stan, Aug 28, 2000 12:00AM
Still nobody outthere with any information on being switched from oxycontin to ultram? Really would appreciate it. Thanks.

by Brian to Sick and Scared § ALL you guys, Aug 28, 2000 12:00AM
Let me see if I understand, your doctor is switching you from oxycontin to tramadol because you became addicted to the oxy?  Guess what, you're going to become addicted to the tramadol as well.  If that doesn't matter to you, I would stick with the oxy since it will control pain better.  Furthermore, despite it being stronger the withdrawal will not last as long.  Finally, tramadol carries a risk of seizures which oxy does not.  Good luck to you.

by b lew, Aug 30, 2000 12:00AM
All your adise from what I can tell is good advise. I have started weening myself off the ultram and at first it was hell.I felt latargic, cloudy, and a real sence of vertigo. I have now cut my dose in half. I'am taking the ultram for chronic pain as a result of a ray amputation in my left hand that had taken place almost nine years ago. I was taking vicoden es steady for about 6 years and was nothing to quit compared to the ultram. The ultram seems to work better in the sence that I really don't feel anything from it other than the relief it gives. But if I forget to take it my body reminds me, I get light headed and sometimes a headache. My advise to anyone out there considering ultram, do a little reserch and look at all the pro's and con's.

I would like to get off the ultram totally and stick to the kava. I have quit the kava totally now, but really felt better when I was taking it. Thanks to all your responces and remember don't mix ultram and kava or any other antidepressants.

by Stan to Brian, Aug 30, 2000 12:00AM
Brian thanks for info on ultram. Glad to have you back.I imagine you REALLY needed a vacation.