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when do you start feeling better
by Michael, Aug 31, 2000 12:00AM
hello all i was taking vik-hp for 6 months ,about 150 a week and its been 22 days since i took anything my question is im still not 100% is it normal to still have the runs and not sleeping and the felling of dispear my dr. not really helping me with this hole thing i just stoped taking them which was dumb i thought i was going to die the frist few days any help well be great thanks michael
Well, I read your comments and I have been looking for an answer to help me through withdrawls. I had been taking my best friends pills for about 5 months until I ripped my back muscles playing soccer, then I had injections and was administered 3 different types of painkillers, which I proceeded to snort rather than ingest. Follwing it down with bottles of brandy and burbon-whiskey I was killing myself, and I thought of death every day. I am currently going through withdrawls, and I will admit that I have lied on several occasions to my fiancee. It got so bad that I was snorting asprin just so that I had something up my nose. Nightmares and coke dreams are frequent and they immediately send me into fits of fright and anger. I want to rip my fiancee's skin apart sometimes because when I am drug deprived I am so angry, and it hurts so bad. He is so understanding, and loving - I find that during withdrawls a part of me is thanking him for helping me and another part of me hates him for helping me too. I realize that this is a disease and that I can get through this with the Lord's grace and my fiancee's support, I am strong enough...it's just that sometimes it hurts so bad...
I totally understand what you are going through, just be there for each other, and your relationship will get stronger too.
Thank you for your time,
Toni Lynn Sailors
But, valarie, please listen to me when I tell you this -- DON'T TAKE MORE THAN 2 OF THESE AT A TIME. GOT IT? Any more than that is really quite dangerous. I scared the **** out of myself when I experimented with 4 (I weigh about 185 lbs.) and found myself passed out on my sun deck in my bathrobe in the middle of the day, with no idea how long I'd been there. I still have no memory of losing consciousness. It was one of the two scariest things that have ever happened to me drug-wise, the other being a seizure while withdrawing from benzos (valium, etc.) and I've been doing rx drugs for 27 years. I am lucky to be alive.
If you take them, be aware that Ultram takes about twice the time to kick in as, say, vicodin or codeine or, I suppose, oxycodone. Don't get impatient and take a second dose sooner than, say, 3-4 hours. The effect will build gently, with the second dose really bringing on that opiate sensation. But Be careful. If you get a headache - stop. I think it could be considered a sign of overdose.
I used Valium for years when I could weedle some out of a doctor just as a little booster for the opiates. I didn't get hooked until I had disk problems and started taking them on top of the vics to boost the effect. Bad idea. Seemed nice at the time, though. If 4 5mg's a day ever stop making you a zombie, you should think about stopping. They will sneak up on you. You'll start needing them for less and less "stress" or muscle pain, or whatever you use them for. Tolerance seems to stay level for a long while, then escalates dramatically, doubling your dosage tolerance in a month or less, doubling it again a month or so later. Exact dosages stop meaning much. If I took some now, 2mg would drop me, as it should. When I was hooked for about a year, I could take 40mg at once and carry right on to the next dose a few hours later. When I switched to Klonopin (in my humble opinion, the Rolls-Royce of benzos), right out of the gate, I could, and did, take whopping doses.
The thing that makes benzos, in my opinion, generally more hazardous than opiates is that they tend to have the same sort of "dis-inhibiting" effect that alcohol has. Opiates don't change my behavior, don't make me do things or make decisions I wouldn't have sober. I can't say the same for benzos. Being hooked on a drug that encourages you to act impulsively is not good in my book. Have you ever done or said anything after taking Valium that you later regretted? If the answer is yes, I'd think about getting a new drug.
Valium fails the tom-litmus test for drugs, which is, does it change my behavior or my decision-making abilities? Do I take part in activities or hang with people I wouldn't if not on this drug? Will it cause me to shirk my normal responsibilities, such as showing up for work or attending to the physical or emotional needs of my family? A yes to any of those questions puts that drug on my don't-do list. All benzo's have been on my don't-do list since 1994 and will stay there. I hope that helps, Vic. See ya.