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How long before a person starts to feel normal again and have energy?

by Renee1060, Sep 06, 2000 12:00AM
I guess I wrote in the wrong place...responding to someone else with a question.  Goes with the territory..man is my head screwed up!  As I said before...I've been taking benzos and all tyypes of opiates for over 17 years now.  All of this started with a neck injury.  My doctor told me to take 320 mg/day..and I'm sick and tires of all this garbage.  I don't feel good when I take the meds...so why take them?  Then I stop taking them and it seems like the withdrawl symptoms will NEVER GO AWAY!!!  Does anyone know if it is true that opiates can/will cause depression over time?  I'm so weak I can barely get out of bed to go to the bathroom..which obviously everyone knows happens very frequently.  How long does it take for your body to return to normal?  I am going to a new pain clinic this Monday..and it really scares me because I just moved to a new area and I asked the pharmacist about this pain doc and she said it's gauranteed that when I return I'll have 4 TIMES THE MEDS I NOW HAVE!  THAT IS INSANITY!  I don't know what to tell the doc...or if I will even have the strength to make it to the appointment.  Thank you for attention.
Member Comments (57)

by Where's Chad, Sep 06, 2000 12:00AM
Chad what's up? after posting 10 times a day you disappeared.Hope you didn't use those scripts did you? Chad,check in buddy.

by ken to ronnieg and angie, Sep 06, 2000 12:00AM
hi, its a long process, at least it has been for me several times.But now I am on day four and its finally starting to get better.Its still hard to keep from using, but its better than the alternative.Some people take longer than others depending on how much you were taking.Myself, I went from oxycontin to lortab,then I weened down on the lortab over a 5 day period.But I had help,I gave my pills to someone who helped me from taking them all at once.Good luck Ken

by Angie to Ken, Sep 06, 2000 12:00AM
Something you said jumped right out at me. You stated that you do not feel good when you take he meds. Are you saying that they don't take the pain away or that you don't get the euphoric feeling from them? If I could wish for 1 thing it would be not to have ever discovered that great feeling that opiates provide. If you don't experience that feeling you may not have such a hard time staying off AFTER THE WITHDRAWL. That is the reason you are feeling weak and it will go away in about a week or so. If you do not tell the dr. at the pain clinic about your problem with opiates you will never end the vicious cycle. Ask yourself if opiates have affected your quality of life in a negative way? If the answer is yes then you have nothing to lose by trying to live differently. Just tell yourself if it doesn't work out you can always go back to the old ways. By the time Monday rolls around you should be through the hard part of your withdrawl. Good luck and keep us posted.  To everyone else--WHERE'S CHAD?????

by Al to Michael, Sep 06, 2000 12:00AM
I was chewing 320mg a day of oxycontin and was really getting strng out. I made the decision to not chew them anymore. I have for the past three days been swallowing whole 1 40 mg as soon as the alarm goes off, and get up about 30 minuts later. I feel fine until about noon, then take another 40. I was taking them {chewing} before for the euphoric feeling, but also have foot and back pain. By swallowing them whole I don't get the euphoria, but still get some energy and no pain. I miss the euphoria, but I am feeling 90% better mentally. I am alot more alert and can actually enjoy people. There is some withdrawl {sweating while sleeping} but so far hasn't been too bad. I am scheduled to go to treatment tuesday, and still may go, but I made the arrangements togo while I was still chewing them, and now these past three days am feeling much better, so I'm not sure what I will do now. I guess I'll keep up what I'm doing until tuesday and decide then. I know the person I talked with to schedule going is going to say I'm just rationalizing and need to go, but the choice is up to me. If I can continue to function the way I have these past few days, then I really don't want to stop. I might suggest you try this, yet don't want to encourage you to keep using if you need to quit. Just sharing my experience. I  wish good results for you.

by tom to loreen, Sep 06, 2000 12:00AM
I answered you on the other thread, but it occured to me that if you're getting the runs from the oxy withdrawal, you could be dehydrated, which will make you feel listless. It might be contributng to it. Buy some Imodium (over the counter) for the runs. It works. Why suffer?

by to chad, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
Chad I know when I stop posting is when I'M using.Back on the roller coaster huh pal? Don't feel bad. WE are human dude.Better luck next time.

by CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
Ok, you got me! Filled the scripts. Big mistake! I did two oxy 20's for three days and felt like ****! What a mistake! I will try not to ever use that **** again!



Here is what happend,

I was doing great (18 days clean) then on the 31st of last month someone came up to me and said that you can fill your perscriptions a day in advance. So, stupid me rushed down to the pharmacy at 9am. Whant to know something? I actually threw up before I walked in to fill the scripts. What the hell was that? Anyway I stoped at the gas station cause the car was on E and proceded to pump the gas. The hell with this I said. I didn't even wait till all the gas was in before I sped off home. Woke the girlfriend up and BAMM, we did em. I don't know what happened but I was so sick I felt like I wanted to throw up all day. I certainly didn't enjoy the feeling at all. I did them the second day and felt the same way. I think that we finally enjoyed them for like three hours on sunday watching football. Other then that, they sickend us! Yet we continued to use them. Go figure? I don't know why someone would use something that made them so sick. I even threw up my burger king (it sucked anyway).



So, here I am again...

The good news is that we didn't have to go through detox again. I guess someone was willing to give us another chance. I can't understand why I broke down and used, I have no excuse other then I am weak. I can however say that I will try not to ever do this again. If anything I am glad that we had such a misreable time cause I believe that will help keep us away. I got rid of the rest of the pills so the temtation should be less.



I don't feel like a loser, I just feel like I let myself down. I now know the disructive force that this **** can do to you. I even got into a pretty serious fight while on the pills over something very stupid. I would like to blame the medication as this was our first real fight in about three years. If I believe that the oxy's made us fight then that will be all the more of a reason to never use. I am so sick of using anything I just want to scream! I certainly enjoy being straight now that I see sort of what its like. I look forward to hearing from you guys, but please NO "I told ya so's" I already know I screwed up! I would however LOVE to hear your opinion as to what happend and what you think my chances of recovery are? I hope you all are doing well..Chad

by to chad, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
haven't you noticed there are no told you so people here.Buddy we have been THROUGH it. there is no shame with this thing.i could not have thrown the scripts away.i'm as sick as adog today and no script for days.when you write here people show concern,even worry. when you dissappear people hope it's because your'e doing better.but itis usually not the case.when i have a full bottle of oxys this is the last place i come. i admit it.nobody is going to judge you man.i've been on this roller coaster so long.i'll be clean 5 days and someone comes around with some.do what you got to do man.you seem to have a sense of humour so don't take any teasing the wrong way. this is so serious, humour is needed at times. keep us posted as many times a day as needed. there is no FAULT in this matter.good luck to you and yours brother. :  )

by Renee1060, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
Thanks for the info Tom.  I went ahead and bought some Imodium..am trying like hell to get plenty of fluids down me but it isn't easy.  Last night was day 2...wound up breaking a lamp and clearing off a table.  Woke up on the floor without a clue as to what happened.  Has anyone else had this happen?

by Renee1060, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
Hi Angie...yes I took them for chronic pain.  But, after all of these years it has gotten to where no medication would help the pain and put me into a deep depression.  I've been told that opiates will cause depression after long term use anyway..have you heard of this?  Yes, the meds did definately stop the pain and made me feel FANTASTIC for many many years.  I detoxed last October from all the methadone etc etc...made it until February 21st when I walked into a new home my fiance and I just bought and found him dead!  Yes...I started using again and of course all the doctors believed I had a valid reason to be on the meds and stated I'd be on them for life.  I don't get that euphoric feeling anymore unless I smash the oxcontin tabs like I've heard so many others have done...geez and I thought I was the only one. I was definately trying to escape reality at that point.  Now I just want to get off the meds and get some strength back.  I definately do miss the euphoric high and dammit I've been taking this garbage so long I don't have a clue how I'm going to act without it. Man was last night rough!

I know I need to tell the new Dr. I'll be seeing everything about the fact that my pain is tolerable without the medication now but then I also have done this in the past...and when I really did need something to help the pain...forget it!!!  I was labeled an addict.  

I wonder if all people with chronic pain become addicts or what?  I am truly hoping I can do without any of it and that I become stronger as the days go by.

Thank you to all of you that are responding...I really appreaciate it and can use the support.

Take Care

by Renee1060, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
I found the doctor that I'll be seeing on Monday listed with the AMA.  Just need to tell him the truth and pray he doesn't tell me stay on this garbage.

by Ken to Chad, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
Hey bud, welcome back. Iknow better than alot of people what its like to relapse, cause I do it so often. But One thing I do know about it is you cant get down on yourself about it. Dont get a case of the f--k its. Just start over is all we can do. I know it didnt take me one try to get addicted, so its not gonna be one try to get off this ****. How do they say it, Dont quit Quiting. By the way Im on day 5 ,WOO HOO, longest for me yet.

by tom to loreen, Sep 07, 2000 12:00AM
err ... you want to run the found-my-fiance-dead part by us again? You breezed by that like it was just another bad day. Don't you think that has something to do with all of this?

Anyway, the weakness and the clumsiness sound like my own opiate withdrawal experiences. I think it's really listlessness plus you're really not into what you're doing, and it translates into clumsy movements. Very, very familiar ... it would all vanish in an instant if you used again, not that I'm advising you to do that (I'm not advising you not to, either). You must realize that oxycodone is one step from morphine/heroin country. And you were combining it with a pretty good jolt of Valium. That's a very powerful, and in my opinion, dangerous combo for a lot of reasons. You're probably feeling the effects of getting off both of those drugs. You know, a lot of MD's would probably agree that those are the two most blatantly addictive drugs in the pharmacy. Just a thought ...

by Renee1060, Sep 08, 2000 12:00AM
Regarding my fiance...he was staying in Sacto to work on the house I/We had bought and I went back home to the other house.  I didn't hear from him Sunday night and became worried...no answer on the cell phone but thought he was asleep.  Monday morning I still received his voice mail and knew something was wrong.  So I drove to Sacto...walked in....and found him dead on the kitchen floor.  Mike was an alcohol and drug rehab counselor that I met when I tried to commit suicide due to no hope for help with chronic pain and the insanity it was causing.  He was a heroin addict for over 25 years...clean & sober for 6 years and we had a fantastic life ahead of us.  Mike was Diabetic and insulin dependent...he went into insulin shock and never came out of it. This is the most devastating part of my life..he was my life.  

So YES Tom...it definately has to do with the problems I'm facing now regarding addiction/depression.  It's not easy talking about this.

The doctors put me on Methadone in 1995 for the pain...after trying Vicodin, Lorcet 10, pure Hydrocodone, Percocet, Demmerol, Morphine, damn the list just goes on and on.  I quit everything on 10/21/99 and didn't start to get any opiates until Mikes death in February 2000.  I'm sure it was a mental thing but it seemed to exacerbated the pain 10-fold.  Therefore I was put on the Oxycontin and Valium.  My tolerance was apparently still extremely high..they told me to take 120mgs/morning 80/afternoon and 120/nights.  I found that I would wake up at about 4:00 am with my mouth watering...feeling like withdrawls which I thought was crazy..