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aclcohol allergy

by Frank, Nov 24, 2000 12:00AM
In the past years of my youth, I drank quite heavily on weekends but have slowed down over the past 30  years. Now, when I drink even a glass of wine or 3/4 beers I get a slight pain inmy chest(lungs) and feel a shortness of breathe. Am I allergic to alcohol?
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by to Kat, Nov 24, 2000 12:00AM
It is quite doubtful you are allergic, since what you desribe isn't a typical allergic reaction.  To be on the safe side you should consult your physician, tell him/her about your symptoms, and get a workup done.  Better safe than sorry.

by Brighty to Brian, Nov 24, 2000 12:00AM
Welcome back Brian !! I did see your other posts also. Speaking of celebrities.... Robert Downey Jr. is out and appearing on Ally McBeal... LOL ..... !! God bless you. Be well. Love, Brighty

by No one special..., Nov 25, 2000 12:00AM
Just a quick question: Can a person get into trouble legally for having Rx's for, say, Vicodin 5/500 from 2 different doc's, one being filled at a chain pharmacy and the other at another smaller pharmacy if the two were to somehow commmnicate?  If so, what would the charge be?  Interested in any information I can get...thanks!

by Frankinscense, Nov 25, 2000 12:00AM
The only trouble would be, the possibility of starting a disease called opiate receptor deficiency(aka. opiate addiction). Opiate addiction does not discriminate. Even the most educated can develop this disease. A pill here,a double dose there,a dose to get me in a better mood,a pill to wake me up. That is a pattern that will and most often evolve into opiate receptor defic. or opiate addiction. Take extreme care. Warning hydrocodone may be habit forming. It should say: continued use of this product may produce a syndrome known opiate rec. defic.. Causing withdrawals and cravings. Just a thought.  

Dan

by Von to Brian, Nov 25, 2000 12:00AM
I had a situation where my dentist prescribed Vicodin for a root canal, and I already had a script for Vicodin from my physician, which he prescribes on an ongoing basis for nonrelated pain.  What happened is, my insurance wouldn't pay for both, so I just had to pay for the dental prescription out of pocket.  But they both got filled with no problem. If you have two valid scripts for legitimate reasons, you shouldn't have any trouble, unless you're going to different doctors just to get more of the medication. That wouldn't be considered legitimate.  Would you get into any trouble?  I don't know, and don't know if pharmacies compare records, I doubt if they have that kind of time or interest.

by Laura to No one special, Nov 25, 2000 12:00AM
I used to work for a doctor's office, so I can tell you what I know from their end.  If your doctor finds out another doctor is prescribing you vicodin, he'll get pissed and probably not give it to you anymore.  But, since you go to 2 different pharmacies, you should be OK.  In the past I have seen patients get caught using the more than one doctor technique because the pharmacy decides they are going to tell us that the patient gets meds from other docs.  Since each pharmacy thinks you only get it from one doc, there should be no problem.  Besides, it's not against the law to have prescriptions, no matter how many or what drug they are for.

by gia, Nov 25, 2000 12:00AM
Sounds like you are. The symptoms described are anaphalactic, associated with a sensitivity. Feel free to email me. I have just gone thru the same thing with caffeine and ended up in the hospital with brain poisoning. I can't even have half a junior mint. ***@****

by Frankinscense, Nov 26, 2000 12:00AM
You cannot take the same drug to same pharmacy with different scripts. You may get away with it once or twice. DEA sees it your'e cut off. You cannot get hydocodone are any like drug filled at the same pharmacy with any frequency. Dan..

by Shiny, Nov 26, 2000 12:00AM
I had to have a root canal done and my dentist gave me 30 percs. because he couldn't do the work and sent me to someone else.  When I went to this different doctor he gave me perscs and an antibotic.  These meds ran concurrently.  I was in so much pain, my husband just went to our pharmacy and had them filled.  Well the pharmacy called the dentist who did the work and he really blasted me. I didn't even know he gave me additional percs.  I told him what happened and he still yelled and acted like I was a criminal when I went back for the follow-up.  My husband went to the pharmacy and told them all about it and they were very nice about it, it was a honest mistake on my husbands part.  In another situation, same pharmacy I got Lortab 5m from one doctor and then got Lortab 10m from yet another doctor they didn't say a thing.  I talked to a pharmist and he said as long as the pill were not the exact same thing even if it was just the strengh they wouldn't have a problem filling it.

by Laura to Dan, Nov 26, 2000 12:00AM
Anaphylactic shock would be very rare to occur from alcohol, and you will die from it if not treated immediately.  Could be a sensitivity though.  Your body can develop allergies or sensitivies that haven't been there before.

by Shiny, Nov 26, 2000 12:00AM
You stated the only trouble would be . . . understatement of the month.  Of course she could get in trouble, it's called double-doctoring. At the very least if her doctor found out just kiss him good-bye, he would never prescribe anything for her in the narcotic family again. I'm surprised with all your "so-called experience you would have warned her of this. She could get a precription for Vicodin 5/500 from one pharmacy and Vicodin in a lesser strength from a different pharmacy or even the same one. But you cannot get the very same medicine at the same time without it being double-doctoring, which is against the law.

by Beanie to anyone, Nov 26, 2000 12:00AM
have a question about the double doctoring, you say you could get vicodin in different strengths and that is not a problem, what if lets say, your doctor gives you vicodin and you are supposed to take 2 a day ,then you have oral surgery and the surgeon gives you vicodin to take every 3-4 hours,,same strength, but if you used your doctors prescription for it you would run out early and because of the oral surgery taking only 2 a day wouldn't be nearly enough for pain control..is this double doctoring? Could you get in trouble for this?

Beanie

by Laura to Dan, Nov 27, 2000 12:00AM
Why do you have such an attitude?  Have you ever worked for a doctor or pharmacy?  We caught patients doing this all the time.  There is never any legal action taken and that's what no one special's question was, wasn't it?  If the medication is prescribed for two different medical conditions, it's prefectly legal.  Of course it is a good idea to tell your doctor if you take any rx's by any other doctors so if they do find out they already know about it.  Like I said, he/she asked what the charge would be and there wouldn't be one.  NOw if she/he is purposely just trying to get more vicodin to feed an addiction by more than one doctor, I'm not sure if it's legal or not, but like I said we catch patients doing this all the time and the only thing the doctor does is either discharge the patient, or never give them narcotics again.  She/he asked if there could be legal trouble, and I highly doubt it.  Get a grip, can't you be nice?

by Beanie, Nov 28, 2000 12:00AM
That is terrible that the dentist bitched you out about that..I could see something happening like that all the time, I personally know what all the different drugs are and would notice what they give me, but i can easily see my grandmother or mother, getting a prescription from the dentist of something they were taking or something close and not even realize it, they could even end up doubling up in the meds. i can picture my grandma taking her vicodin how the doctor prescribed it 2 tablets every 4-6 hours and then getting a bottle of generic hydrocodone from the dentist labeled take 2 tablets every 4-6 hours, i could see her taking both of them at the same time, not knowing they were the same drug or that she wasn't supposed to do that., or her getting tylenol #3 for her arthritis and vicodin from the dentist and taking them both at once, and it would be awful for the dentist to yell at her like she intentionally did something wrong..

I have had an ER doc prescribe vicodin in the past and then my doc switch it to tylenol # 3 a couple days later, the pharmacist came out and told me not to take the two at the same time as they were basically the same thing..but they never called my doctor or made me feel bad about it.

but when my doctor prescribes me norco #60 tablets a month and it says on it take 2 a day, they do make me feel guilty when i try to fill it after 30 days, they won't even let me fill it at 29 days when i am there picking up other prescriptions, they make me make the trip back the next day..this last time she told me that if i was gonna continue filling it this way,,30 days apart that the doc would have to change the directions and be notified!!, and that I had filled it early the month before, when i hadn't, they wouldn't let me,,just like i said made me make an extra trip there the next day, do they think i was gonna have a party if they didn't make me wait 12 hours to fill it?? they let me fill all my other script after they are 75% used,,its just a convenience thing not to have to wait until you are all out to have it refilled....

Beanie

by Frankinscense, Nov 28, 2000 12:00AM
Dear Laura, I know what goes on in pharmacies because I have a very good friend that is a druggist. I also have a few friends who are physicians in recovery. So you might say I have some reliable information on prescription laws and regulations. I must add, each state and pharmacy deals with these situations differently. Some drug stores that are privately owned, opposed to chain pharmacies also overlook situations for obvious reasons. Eventually,the DEA will do an audit and catch these drug stores that do things that are not ethical. The disease of opiate addiction sometimes cannot be dealt with in a nice,sugar coated way because this a disease that kills and ruins lives. Tuff luv baby!

With Utmost of Sincerity,

Dan, the Substance Abuse Specialist

by to Dan, Nov 28, 2000 12:00AM
Wow...you know a pharmacist, a physician, physicians in recovery. Very impressive. But I hardly think your associations and/or friendships qualify you as an expert. Do you think we don't know people, too? I'm a medical researcher, my husband is an attorney. I got through graduate school as a health educator and counselor. My best friend is a pharmacist, my former college roommate is a dentist. My father is a best-selling author. I guess I could get really arrogant and spout quite an ecclectic mix of advice. But at then end of the day, one thing remains: I'm still an addict. And when I read this forum or post to this forum, I'm looking for support from fellow addicts. I'm looking for personal experiences, to relate and to share. The last I want is to read is a post from a defensive person, offering vicarious advice and one-sided opinions. Remember, Dan, no matter how "credible" the information or the source, there are still three sides to each story (your side, my side and the truth). Especially in addiction, which tends to involve a personal journey for each and every one of us. Not one method or treatment will work for everyone. If that was the case, someone would've marketed it and we'd all be on a different forum right now.

Gotta be honest with you, Dan. I don't like your posts because you don't seem to speak from the heart. Instead, you boast about your friendships or the books you read, you sign your name with your professional title, and you get defensive when anyone disagrees with you. And you're a substance abuse