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by Trig, Mar 16, 2001 12:00AM
i have been a big drinker for more than twenty years, and have had fatty liver for the last fifteen. i have lately started to get a swollen left leg and have been sweating profusely in hot weather.  i had to have a blood test recently and was told i had 5 times the normal level of ggt.  not sure what ggt is. does this mean that i am an alcoholic?
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by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Mar 17, 2001 12:00AM
To: Trig
I looked at one of my blood tests from last August and there is no ggt. However, there is SGOT and SGPT on my test and they are three to five times higher than the average.  I might mention that I have a chronic liver disease and was a heavy drinker as well.  



As to whether a blood test might indicate that you are an alcholic, I don't know.  Do you think that you are?  That's the main point here. My liver function tests were abnormal for years before I got really concerned enough to cut out alcohol.  But by that time I was in serious trouble physically.  J.B.

by spook, Mar 17, 2001 12:00AM
To: Trig
ABSTRACT

Gamma glutamyl transpeptidase or GGT is an enzyme produced in the bile ducts. Measurement of the GGT is an extremely sensitive test and may be elevated in many types of liver disease. Many drugs, including alcohol, cause an elevation of the GGT, and its activity may be increased in heavy drinkers even in the absence of liver damage or inflammation. An important feature of GGT is that it can detect the presence of alcohol, even after a small amount of alcohol is ingested. Thus, the GGT test is important in the evaluation and management of alcoholism.



Because GGT is not increased in bone disease or bone growth, it can help differentiate liver disease from skeletal disease when the ALP is elevated. Both the ALP and the GGT are increased in a number of diseases that affect bile drainage, such as gallstones, tumors blocking the common bile duct, alcoholic liver disease, or drug induced hepatitis that blocks the flow of bile in smaller channels within the liver. However, the ALP is found in other organs and tissues, such as the bone, the placenta, and the intestinal tract. Therefore, the GGT is used as supplementary test to verify that an elevated ALP is due to disease or injury to the liver or biliary tract, rather than disease affecting other organs.

by spook, Mar 17, 2001 12:00AM
Do you still drink?,despite the damage you have done,of course you are an alcoholic,I cannot see why they specifically mentioned your GGT result to you.

I do not know about the relevance of the swollen leg and sweating and GGT.I think they should look into that and if you have not already STOP drinking.

by Trig, Mar 18, 2001 12:00AM
thanks spook and JB for your comments.  I guess i lead a kind of a double life because I hold down my job and am well respected for what I do.  At the same time, at the end of the day I come home or go to the pub and get as drunk as a skunk and have done for years.  Various doctors have told me to take it easy on the grog over the years, but I haven't changed my ways.  I love drinking as I love smoking, and it seems to me that either the drink or the smokes will get me in the end earlier than I might otherwise shuffle off this mortal coil, but it seem to worry me.  Does it change as you get older?  



Part of the reason why I don't worry about whether I cark it or not is that I think there are just too many people.  We are buggering up the environment at a hell of a rate- what will it be like for your kids and grandkids with heaps of pollution, loss of land through sea rises, a vast divide between our fellows in Africa or China in terms of wealth and education - these things seem to me disastrous and something I do not want to be part of.  Does this seem intelligible or not?  I am sorry if they are not, but they are sincerely held views.



cheers

trig

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Mar 18, 2001 12:00AM
To: Trig
I can relate to what you are thinking.  I get thoughts like that, too, when I'm drinking.  My closest friends have been concerned at times with my preoccupation with matters that I have absolutely no control over and the accompaning feelings of wanting to "not be a part of it".  Maybe the continued drinking is a symptom of a "death wish".  I've been in and out of AA for many years and have seen many with this problem.  It's so frustrating to watch people who are so intelligent and capable of so much better in life, go out and "play in traffic" time and again.  Alcohol like all drugs is cunning, baffeling and powerful and has the ability to make fools of us!  Complete abstinence is the answer but requires a lot of work to maintain.



Have you thought about attending some AA meetings?  J.B.



by Trig, Mar 19, 2001 12:00AM
To: J.B.
JB - I could never get seriously involved with AA as I really don't like anything much about it.  I know it works for a whole heap of people, and that's great, but it just doesn't work for me.  I am not quite the health disaster that I could be, but I have given some thought to going to the local clinic to have a holiday, as it were, from my usual lifestyle.  Maybe I'll do that, but.....on the other hand, I am still struggling with enjoying the way I am, notwithstanding all the potential difficulties it causes.  Thanks for you wise suggestions.

cheers

trig

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Mar 19, 2001 12:00AM
To: trig
If you are still enjoying your alcohol and it's not causing any physical, economical or emotional problems...why quit?  Unless you really want to, that is.  Many who end up in AA are so broken down in these areas that they are literally at rock bottom.  Many are also ordered by the courts to attend after getting DUI's or because of domestic violence.  I just got to the point where I didn't enjoy alcohol or life in general anymore and had to do something about it.  If you ever need help, trig, there's plenty available. Cheers to you, too!  J.B.

by Dee, Mar 19, 2001 12:00AM
To: Everyone/sorry to interupt
what happened to my post that I wrote about coming back from vacation? I don't even know if anyone ever responded to it!

why do they do this? take care all

Dee

by CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!, Mar 19, 2001 12:00AM
To: dee
I replyed to you as soon as you posted. I wrote for like 20 minutes. I never seen it posted. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Mar 19, 2001 12:00AM
To: Med Help
Yeah, what is this all about?  Why are certain threads deleted while others stay on for ever?  Are we not allowed to delve into certain areas?  J.B.

by cindi, Mar 19, 2001 12:00AM
I have posted several in the past few days and they are gone as well,  The thread re: the phentermine is gone and there was some info I would have like to read again.   Yet, I see questions etc dating back to last year....go figure

by Thomas02, Mar 20, 2001 12:00AM
To: dee, jb, chad for tom
I also welcomed you back in the disappearing thread. Welcome back, dee, hope this message finds you well ... same to my friends JB and, of course, chad from philly. I think this forum reveals that our similarities are more numerous than our differences. We're all confronted with the great puzzle of life. I think we all believe that, among other things, we were given the gift of life to experience joy. It gets so complicated when the source of one's joy brings with it destruction and sometimes death. It's hard to know how to live a lot of the time. It's hard to tell the right road from the wrong.



Peace and good fortune to all.

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Mar 21, 2001 12:00AM
To: Pat/tom
Thanks!  Life is something else isn't it?  We are all about 95% of one another.  Marty starts chemo again tomorrow.  Please keep her in your prayers.  I just keep hanging around to see what happens next in this wonderful life of ours.  There's never a dull moment as long as you stay involved and keep moving!  J.B.

by Dee, Mar 21, 2001 12:00AM
To: thanks everyone!
Thank You for the welcome back wagon! even though I did not get to read any of them, Chad, so sorry I missed the 20 minute post! lol, have to laugh or I'll get mad, and lord knows there much more to get angry about!Tom/Pat hope your doing well, how's the searching going for the detox? Cindi and anyone else I miss,(brain is fried when it comes to names)JB, my thoughts and prayers are with you and Marty, the strength you two have is unwritable,I hope that makes sense to you..just know that my heart is with you..Brighty, how's things going? didn't an anniversary come up or coming up soon? YAHOO! we never did hear anything ever again about Brian did we? I'm sorry to say that while I was in florida I was able to wean myself down to 5-6 (20mg)oxy's a day, but now that I'm back home I'm right back