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Withdrawal From Buprenex
by Schlub, Oct 04, 2001 12:00AM
Does anyone know how long and how severe withdrawal from Buprenex may be?
I've been using it for 2 months, to aid in my detox from the hard stuff. I've tapered down from 4 amps a day to 1, but trying to get below 1 ampule a day is a constant daily struggle NOT to use more. Sort of a death by a thousand cuts situation, if you know what I mean.
So I'm thinking about going cold turkey after I see my addiction doctor today. But I'd like to know what I'm getting into, because I can't afford to be sick for 2 weeks right now and have zero energy and be depressed. A few days, yes. But not 2 weeks.
Any clues? Thanks!
I've been using it for 2 months, to aid in my detox from the hard stuff. I've tapered down from 4 amps a day to 1, but trying to get below 1 ampule a day is a constant daily struggle NOT to use more. Sort of a death by a thousand cuts situation, if you know what I mean.
So I'm thinking about going cold turkey after I see my addiction doctor today. But I'd like to know what I'm getting into, because I can't afford to be sick for 2 weeks right now and have zero energy and be depressed. A few days, yes. But not 2 weeks.
Any clues? Thanks!
It takes about 1 month of constant use of Buprenex to develop a physical tolerance. I can't imagine how someone could get high from it, because it just doesn't have that effect, ebing only a partial opaiate agonist. But hey, getting "high" is a very individual thing, so who knows? The only thing I've ever felt from it is the lack of feeling withdrawal symptoms.
So there it is ... life in the slow lane. Almost 2 months clean of feeling "high" and it feels mighty good, actually.
i can't help you much with your question about bup, but it sure
is good to hear from you! I'm also real happy you've gotten down
to just one amp a day. i would like to hear more about the bup
expierence, as i know next to nothing about it. Would you post
your expierence with it? i'm sure that other people on this for-
um could really benefit if you shared your expierence with this
relativly knew form of detox
keep that angel on your shoulder
kip
Well, Buprenex is truly a wonder drug. I mean, it didn't eliminate all of the bad initial symptoms from heavy opiate withdrawal, but it sure made it a helluva lot easier. That and Clonidine, of course.
The beauty of Buprenex is that you feel nothing from it -- no buzz, no high -- so in that sense it's not reinforcing. It's been, what, 7 weeks since I've been "stoned" on opiates, and I'm learning to live life without that opiate feeling. Going to meetings, etc. I'm really surprised how easy it is. I have almost no cravings, etc.
And the Bup definitely helped. It is supposedly physically addictive, of course (although again, no "reward effects"), but the withdrawals are supposed to be "mild to moderate" as compared to heroin or Vicodin or other pure opiates.
Bup is a partial opiate agonist, not a full one.
If I had it to do over, I might have opted for a rapid Bup detox and taper so that I didn't use it for more than 2 weeks or so.
But then some folks swear that using it for a couple of months helps restore and rejuvenate your dopamine receptors.
Who the hell knows. I just want to be off all drugs, including Bup, so that's what I'll do -- either quickly by going cold turkey or slowly over the next few weeks.
Shea
Another family member tell me that it's getting harder and harder to get meds like fioricet or vicodin from Mexico. At least that is the case in Juarez and some of the other border towns. Has anybody else experienced this? J.B.
if you go to Canada to get 8 mg of codiene mixxed with tyelenol,
beter tak a wheel-barrow with you to start toting your liver around in. if person is going to do this there is a very simple
method to seperate the codiene out. just plug opiates into your
search engine.
you can buy any drugs you want in the pharmacys in mexico. there
are laws against posessing these very drugs. the local police
enforce these laws selectively, so if you head on down there to
take a little rx vacation, don't forget to have enough money
to buy your self out of trouble!
hey just wanted to tell you, don't be a stranger. let us know how
it goes from time to time. you know it's the strength that you
share when your growing is what the rest of us need most of all!
That last comment you made to Schlub really hit home for me.
It is so true.
Have I told you lately how much I respect you?
wow.
thank you.
WW
ok, ok i stole that one too (i told you i was a thief) i think it
came from a Hoyt Axton song called "less than the song."
my poor head is full of 50 years of hard living- but there was
always music and words--my own someone- elses most of the good
stuff is someone elses. very little of what i write measures up to
an "archetyple standard." writing is very dangerious (at least for
me). i usually hate things i write because it doesn't measure up
to the things in this world that are truely beautiful like my wife,
the man who helped me get clean the first time around. so writing
is dangerious and self loathing usually comes real silent and real
swift.
**** listen to me...i'ld rather tell you about kip the thief &
junky.
you know what to put on your shoulder!!!
kip
You remind me of Hermes, the Greek God. He is the trickster, the sacred thief. He invented a musical instrument called the lyre to lull Zeus to sleep and then stole his herd animals..LOL
I've got a statue to Hermes on one of my altars at home.
Stealing medicine for your people is holy work. And words my friend, are medicine. At least yours have been for me.
Never think you don't matter or haven't had an impact. I'm living proof that you have.
lots of love,
WW
kip