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by himay, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
I am a long time heroin user and have recently started to buy methadone to treat myself, since no doctors in my town will give me my own perscription. I know it's just replacing one habit for another. Well I was wondering if any one knew any names of doctors that could help me get my own perscription?
Member Comments (75)

by skipper, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: himay
himay:

welcome to this forum, there will always be room for one more junky

here! In responce to your question about methadone. This is very

diffucult to answere as regulation vary from state. In some states

an MD can dispence methodone to addicts. in other states they can-

not. i live in nebraska and methadone (or any other narcotics) cannot be perscribed to known drug addicts. i learned of this while talking to my pharmacist while getting my monthly Rx of 90 oxy-c (40 mg) filled. I asked what then about some one like me who must after 10 months of oxy-c be addicted? My pharmacist laughed and said "the difference is you have an MD diagnosis, not to mention insurence coverage. i live in a metro area of approx. 1 million people and the only way anyone can get methadone outside of a in-patient hospital detox is through a single underfunded and under-

staffed walk in clinic. the usual amount of time for some one to

get help from this clinic is 30-40 days. you must decide for your- self if the clinic route is the way to go. for every good thing said about methadone, there is something bad to say. PLEASE examine all of your options, the pros and cons before you make a decision that could well affect the rest of your life.

keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

by jule1, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: CINDI Everyone
Cindi - I saw a post from a couple days ago where you said you have taken ephedra.  Did you know that it is deadly?  It has caused heart attacks in young healthy people.  Please be careful with it.

I can't believe that not one person here responded to my post about Ginger she has not written back and I am worried about her.

by May, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
My name is Amy and I have been reading for a few days before I finally musstered up enough courage to write.  I have been taking Vicoden and Percocet for about a year now.  I am out of pills today and wanted to know what to expect.  Thanks for any help you all might give.  Skipper, from reading you seem like one of the best people to talk to.

by skipper, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: May
amy:

first of all wecome to the forum! always gonna be room for one more

junky, so come in out of the cold.



so you ran out of pills, i seem to remember you say something about

percocet or hydro (actually except in how there classed in the eyes

of the law, i find them almost identical). what to expect...well

if you have been using for a year or more you must have an idea of

the things to come?



I would suggest you scroll down the forum here and check out Thomas's detox recipe. what you are heade for is a demonstration

of abstenence syndrome. it is different from one person to the

next. detoxing cold is usually described as a bad case of the

flu, with a lot of head trips thrown in. If you have a good friend or a family member you trust, now is the time to call for help asassistence will prove invaluable...



remember: you are walking a path worn smooth by the tears and foot-steps of many who came down it before you. also opiate with drawal won't kill you, it might make you wish you were dead, but it will not kill you!



keep posting as this forum is full of many good people who are

either where your at or have been there!!



keep an angel on your shoulder and move to the light!

kip

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: jbear
I'm the one who asked Cindi whether she had tried ephedrine.  Yes it can be very dangerous stuff, indeed.  In fact, the person who introduced me to it had three heart attacks. I haven't seen him for several years but I hope he's okay.  He would take 30 25mg tabs per day!  I've never used more than four per day and only use it once in a while.



The only reason I even brought it up was we were discussing amphetamines which are seriously more dangerous.  It's like a beer compared to a triple shot of whisky.  The point is that a lot of things sold in healthfood stores can be detrimental to your health if used improperly.  We addicts are really at risk when it comes to pills, aren't we?  Today there are warnings on just about every substance we use.  It's really up to us to decide and be held accountable as to how we use something.



Sorry for the big lecture!  How's it going jbear?



J.B.

by jule1, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Amy
I hope since you said yo finally posted that you have been reading fo r a while.  Definitely check out Thomas's detox recipie I didn't use it but many people have with great sucess.  I have been through the withdrawls and felt like I had the flu and wanted to crawl out of my skin.  I am very proud of you for posting I know how hard it is I felt so wierd the first time I did it I had never done anything like that before.  I hope you have one of the more mild withdrawls. How many have you been taking a day and for how long.  Please write back soon and let me know how you are I will help with anything I can!!

by butterbean, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Amy
Hi Amy, I am pretty new to this forum also. I read your story and I too, take both Percocet and Vicodin for pain.  I usually run out before I can get the perscription filled and go through withdrawal.  I will tell you that I usually take all the percocet first and then vic and if I run out soon, I go through worse withdrawal from the percocet.  My withdrawal consists of the burning in my head that is awful and my body aches and i sneeze and cough a lot, just like the flu.  I don't have a fever, but, I do have extreme diaherra.  I do not get nauseous as some of the others say they do.  I have been clean for a week now and will stay that way for at least a month, but, I have a lot of pain and need to take the meds, but, I need to take them as perscribed.  I am going to try real hard this time to do just that if I do go back on them.  I have been taking them for about 6 years now, the vics and percocet for about 4 years.  Take care and let me know how you are.  

Butterbean

by Witchywoman, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Amy
Welcome to the forum Amy! It's a wonderful place, full of support and care, as you've probably seen from the posts.



Withdrawal is one of the hardest things I ever physically went through in my life, but once it is behind you, it feels GREAT to have your freedom back.  Be sure to get as much support as you can from any source you can get it...that is what got me through. Prayer, acupuncture, Thomas's recipe, this forum letting me babble away...all that helped.



I look forward to getting to know you better and if there is anything I can do to help you through this week, let me know.



love,

WW

by May, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
Thank you everyone for responding so quickly.  I am at work now but will write more later.  I can tell I will make some great friends here.

Thank you!

by cindi, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: JBEAR and everyone
I am not being ignorant and ignoring anyone  I have to run but yes I said I tried ephedra once or twice    it did nothing for me.....i did use the designer slim for awhile....didn't do real well in the blood pressure department..talk some more later  ove to all   cin

by skipper, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
fes up time:

it seems my current oxy detox has been complicated by a genuine

case of food poisioning! Just got back from seeing my gp who is an

internal med. specialist. tried to take oxy last night and this

morning--just blew the stupid little pill back into the stool---

what a waste huh? well didn't see my primary care doc, saw elmer

fudd , his partner. Gave me phenergan suppositorys for christ on

crutch! i hate to repeat myself, but i hope i'm athleep before i

get my finger outa my ath!



it's been real rough posting today- what with frequent trips to

bathroom!! whatever company makes imodium, buy stock in it now as

my personal consumption of this product of so far dubious worth,is

thru the cealing!! see pain doc tomarrow. he is real tight with my

gp ( i think they are former lovers) so i plan on ratting out elmer

fudd the useless partner!!



thanks to every one who posted for Amy. the new ones are the ones

that need the most attention! gotta go, i think i'm going to put

another oxy-c in the stool



all that angel stuff, yeah?

kip

by Milo, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Amy
Hi Amy, let me add my welcome to the others'. I haven't had much trouble with the specific meds you're dealing with, but I've had plenty of rounds with benzos, barbiturates, etc. so I'm always glad to lend an ear. My best advice at the moment is to wholeheartedly trust & take the recommendations of skipper, Thomas, Cindi, and all of the other "veterans" here -- they are truly good folks and know what they're talking about. If I can help at all, please let me know. -- sincerely, Little Milo

by jule1, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Skipper
I really needed a little laugh today and you sure did it for me!! Hope you are feeling better.  When I was around 10 my whole family (9 People) got food poisoning what a mess I will never forget how horrible it was.  See ya Jules

by Francoise, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Himay
Himay, go to this site as soon as possible and find a doctor in your area, or as close to you as possible:



http://www.widomaker.com/~skipb/panic.html



You need to get help and these doctors can help folks in your situation as well.



Francois

by cindi, Oct 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Amy
Welcome to the forum  there is nothimg i have to add toall the wonderful advice and support you ahve already received from everyone....good luck and things will work out...tkae the adice to heart and run with it...God Bless you  love to all cin

by May, Oct 11, 2001 12:00AM
Thank you all again.  This would be day two......  Am I tired.  I can't seem to get motivated and all I think about is how good i would feel only if....

I was taking between 25-30 vic. a day or 9 perc. a day.  Think my liver is shot???

So I hope this is going to get better.  Can't refill until 11/6.  By then, hopefully I will not want to fill them because of what I have to go through when they are gone.  Skipper.... no one knows of this and i would like to keep it that way.  I think that is why I turned to you guys.  Thank you all so much for welcoming me.

by May, Oct 11, 2001 12:00AM
Thank you all again.  This would be day two......  Am I tired.  I can't seem to get motivated and all I think about is how good i would feel only if....

I was taking between 25-30 vic. a day or 9 perc. a day.  Think my liver