Dr. Steve,



I agree that maybe posting some guidelines would be of benefit. But being able to be open and honest is what helps heal us. People here have a correlation between them. We count on the directness and candidness when we ask for advise. The support we receive from our fellow addicts is what keeps us up and able to keep a positive outlook that will we find sobriety. If we relapse, it is here, on this forum that we can find others who will encourage us into making another attempt. They cheer us on and raise our spirits when we are down and feeling like failures. They inspire us with their stories. They educate us with their knowledge. When we are at our wits ends there are people here, not just people but survivors who are loving, compassionate people that help us make sense of it all. And when they don't have the answers, they don't pretend to. But they are still there in our corner, sticking by our side until the answer or possible solution comes alone.



As I have written in a post before, it is the type of persons on this forum that I wish I had in my everyday life. I wish they were my neighbors, my coworkers, my brothers and sisters.  They are so giving. Giving of their time, of their praises, of their advise. And they don't sugar coat everything, they say what needs to be said. They say what we need to hear.

To take this away Dr. Steve would serve what purpose? If you felt that some of the posts to Danielcc/Doc Dan were inappropriate then maybe you should look at the unbefitting posts that Doc Dan has initiated. Numerous Times! No one hit the "ground running" towards Danielcc when he starting posting his spiteful comments. He was asked politely to ease up, to leave, to stop attacking etc. He was even ignored. But continued until people responded and started to show they were fed up. If you read through the posts, all of them, you would see the pattern.



I don't believe anyone on this forum was looking to be malicious towards Danielcc or anyone else on this forum. Many have tried to offer help and make some peace with him. However the attempts were vain and ineffective. So does everyone on this forum have to suffer because of the obstinate and opposing ways of one, being Danielcc?



Dr. Steve, we are just looking for a little corner of the world where we can come together. Where we can share and heal and hurt and laugh and cry. All without being judge. Where we can take the advise, aidAids
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Dr. Steve, if you and/or the board who monitors this forum where to take that away from us, what purpose would that serve? I know for certain how detrimental it would be! Read the posts here. This forum is a life line to so many.



In closing may I ask that is you were offended by anything I have said here I would hope you do not hold it against anyone else on this forum. My ID is Shea. And if you feel anything I have said here is a cause of action I would hope you take it against me by suspending my privilege to post and do not penalize this forum for my comments. I truly hope you would not desist this forum in which such charitable and benevolent people can come together and unify.



With all sincerity,



Shea

With all due respect...









































































































thakyou

Dr. Steve,

This forum gave me my life backBack pain - low
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I ask you to please post guidelines for what is acceptable to post and what is not, so people can have that knowledge, rather than be surprised when posts are removed.



respectfully,

WW

Yep, here we go again! Every other Sunday, posts disappear.

Not that either Dr Steve or "Dr" Dan is going to read this, but if I have to sound like another doctrinaire "just say no" robot and parrot the worthless **** both of these people put out, then let Dr ******* shut the forum down. He is a hypocrite and frankly, has done a **** job as the "professional moderator" of the forum.



Like them or not, my posts have always been honest. Is that what these guys can't take? Are they livingAdvanced care directives in a fantasy world where every addict crawls to them in tearsTears again gel drops
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I say we all exchange e-mail addresses soon and then, perhaps, they can have an addictionDrug abuse and dependence forum consisting of Doc Dan and Doc Steve doing hi-fives in print. Good riddance to both of them.



And they call it "Med Help!" Just who have these two ever helped on this forum?

by the way, as I've posted before, my e-mail address is



***@****



and if Dr. Pointless wants to ban me from posting here because of my last post, I'd consider it an honor. I take none of it backBack pain - low
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Love to all my FRIENDS (just in case this is my final post),



Thomas

Thomas, you have absolutely helped me more than any doctor ever has.  I can never thank you or the other wonderful people on here enough. You're real. I put up a web page with email addresses on it: http://www.mdo.net/users/kstuebin/aemail.html.  I will add yours to it.  Maybe we can find a new home.

I'm not even sure why I am even posting this as you will not deem it important enough to read and delete it as well as the others,,thinking that it is just another uneducated, frivilous post...so be it...but it will make me feel better to say what I feel I need to say....I came to this forum a year ago in December, beaten and ready to curl up and die...and ready to start to find the firstFirst progesterone mc10
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First-progesterone vgs 400 drugChemical dependence - resources
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Drug-induced hypertension and these people were never heard from again.....Have you ever had an addictionDrug abuse and dependence problem? If you did then you would know that the reason most of us started using was the fact that we like the way the drugsChemical dependence - resources
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Drug-induced hypertension made us feel....this we cannot deny...or we would have never wound up in the position we were in.....to go backBack pain - low
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Well, I havent been comeing to this board for very long,

but clearly there are a lot of interesting people who know a lot more about drugsChemical dependence - resources
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After comeing here, and reading about various subjects, I have learnt alot about drugsChemical dependence - resources
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Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
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Drug-induced hypertension,I have always recieved good answers from my post's and am learning much ! and as they say..."knowledge is power"





Everyone keep up the good work !!!!









- Peace Out !

   -MATT-

Thomas:

live every day as if it your last, post every post as the same!

my hat's off to you and many others at this cyber-place



need an angel on my shoulder shoulders intensive treatment
Shoulder arthroscopy
Shoulder pain!

Tried to get some mail to you but it kept coming backBack pain - low
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Steve.....I don't really feel like calling you dr. today. The people in the forum are alot like the US. On 9-11 terrorist's tried to knock the United States down. Instead the country is stronger than ever. The same theory applies here. You might try to knock us down, but we will stand strong. If you really moniter the forum like you say you do (instead of those generic answers you give) then you would have to be blind to not see the close knit group we have become. With the exception of danielcc who only posted that question so he could stir up trouble. Again..if you monitered the forum, you would know that also. As far as him saying that some of us "glorify drugChemical dependence - resources
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Delirium tremens
Fetal alcohol syndrome,pot or whatever. We all realize we have an addictionDrug abuse and dependence.....and we may joke about it. Haven't you ever heard a group of overweight women wishing they could have a cheese cake?

Heaven forbid! They should be hung by their toes! I have an addictionDrug abuse and dependence to hydrocodoneHydrocodone cp
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Hydrocodone-phenylephrine. I'm not proud of it and there is no one in my life I can talk to about it except for the people here.

If I didn't have my forum friends I would be in tearsTears again gel drops
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As for me.....forum or no forum....I still have my friends.

katie:

i'm proud to be listed among anyone who had made a difference to

you or anyone in this cyber-place



need ever angel on this forum

kip

of all the different ways i have wanted to really lay it on Dr. Steve and dan  (he has not earned the right to be called doc at all  not even an MD or DO behind his name to backBack pain - low
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I love you guys. Each and every one of you.



that's all i needed to say.



lots of love,

WW (Tara)

WOW, how can anyone follow these posts.......I'm with WW....I LOVE all of you here and am honored to be included with all of the above "Special Angels".

For once the Wiz is speechless.........

Power & Magick 2 U ALL and Know this my friends.....No matter what happens, we shall each other ALWAYS,

Love,

Wiz

I'm speachless, too!  In the 18 months I've been coming here, I've never experienced what is happening now.  I love all of you as dear friends.



J.B.

I just came backBack pain - low
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Brain surgery
Carotid artery surgery
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