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oxycodone/hydro codone

by skipper, Nov 04, 2001 12:00AM
since 1997 i have been in intractable pain.  i have had 2 surgerys done on my cervical spine. i'm still in terrific pain. i also am a recovering drug addict  (yep,

you guessed it Opiates.)   i currently am taking 40mg. of oxy-contin three times a

day. before i was put on oxy-contin i was taking 20 mg of hydro-codone 5 times

a day. Is there another opiate that would not have the same problem of sedation

oxy and hydro have? My pharmasist   told me of a narcotic that he hasn't seen

used in 15 years that was what  i was after. It was called levro-dromorian i be-

lieve. is a drug like this on the market? does it really offer sedation free pain re-

lief?

thankyou and keep an angel on your shoulder

kip
Member Comments (94)

by Francoise, Nov 04, 2001 12:00AM
I've been on 100 mg oxy twice a day for a long time for back problems (lumbar, L4), and it doesn't make me sleepy, high, or anything else. I don't think you're taking enough oxy, tho'.



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Francois



P.S. - I have very much appreciated this site. I've made some wonderful friends who are serious about getting off opiates. But, in the end, we're Americans; we're not kindly disposed to censorship. Like that practiced here concerning IBOGAINE.

by cindi, Nov 04, 2001 12:00AM
To: skipper
Now that's a drug I have never ever heard much about,,,,and I have been working as a Nurse since 1981 and as an aide since 1976.....on an oncology unit in the  late 70's what about MS contin..have you ever tried that?  maybe Oxycontin tid and then something like oxyIR for breakthrough pain...did u look up the levodromorian in RXlist?  see if they even make the stuff anymore....I know I'm goin got have to do something else myself  my pain level is out of control lately  I have an appt. with a new doc but not until the 26th...there is one other doc i may call tomorrow..everyone wants me to see this doc to get pain pills,,,,I want to see him to get this pain TREATED and under control....not pain pills shoved down my throat (ok well, not exactly shoved)but the reality is how long can i live on pain pills,,,I need treatment etc....anyway try rxlist.com,,,love to all  cin

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Nov 05, 2001 12:00AM
To: Skip
It's name is Levo-Dromoran(levorphanol tartrate), made by Roche. It's a synthetic analgesic comparable to morphine and stronger than Demerol at much lower amounts(2mg).  It is about as effective orally as it is IV. Apparently, it can be used before, during and after surgery due to it's compatability with many anesthetics.  Whether it's generally available at pharmacies, I don't know.  It may be similar to Dilaudid from the sounds of it.



Hope this helps you some!



J.B.

by Shea, Nov 05, 2001 12:00AM
To: skipper
hi there,



i don't know much about it but i am also trying to research it. I remember you mentioned it to me in an earlier email. If and when i get any info i will be sure to let you know.



May you find peace



Shea

by in recovery, Nov 06, 2001 12:00AM
i feel that the drug has been very abused and the goverment should of had more control of the drug known as oxy.i am a recovering addict from oxys.it has almost destoryed my life and has done the same to my love ones!i want to know who is responible? it takes someone who has had this problem to understand what im talking about.and why don't offer treatment    instead of jail time?yes i am very concern and upset! has anyone had this problem from oxys?

by in recovery, Nov 06, 2001 12:00AM
i feel that the drug has been very abused and the goverment should of had more control of the drug known as oxy.i am a recovering addict from oxys.it has almost destoryed my life and has done the same to my love ones!i want to know who is responible? it takes someone who has had this problem to understand what im talking about.and why don't offer treatment    instead of jail time?yes i am very concern and upset! has anyone had this problem from oxys?  thank you

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Nov 06, 2001 12:00AM
To: in recovery
I agree with some of what you said.  How did you get into Oxy's in the first place?  J.B.

by radioboy74, Nov 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Everyone - Tylenol 3
Is there a high addiction to Tylenol 3?  I use to take Lortab, Tylox, Percocet - is there any resemblence with Tylenol 3?

by jule1, Nov 10, 2001 12:00AM
To: Radioboy
YES they are all in the same family although tylenol with codeine is not as strong but the potential for addiction is still there.  Percocet which is oxycodone is supposed to be the strongest but I think that Hydrocodone which is in Lortab and Vicoden is just as strong in the same dosage.  Oxycontin is straight oxycodone without the tylenol in higher doses and timed released.  So please be careful with all narcotic painkillers!!  And also Ultram which technically is not a narcotic however it is what I became addicted to.

by GingerLee, Nov 11, 2001 12:00AM
To: jbear and ........
Jbear- I wish that I lived in your area but I live to the south of you.  Today was just a big blurr. I am going to write to you at your aol address tomorrow. I really do need to run a question or two by you. I also understand the Ultram thing, I danced with that demon too! I have such an incredible tolerance now, I am sure sometimes when I am nodding out that I won't be back, always to wake up and start all over again.

Thank you for your strength, I have none of my own.You do not know how very greatful I am to you and everyone else here.I hope one day that I might be able to comfort you a fration of what I have gotton from you.

by Telby, Nov 11, 2001 12:00AM
I am unable to into treatment although I do have an outpatient counselor and meetings.  I am addicted to oxicotin and snort about 40 - 100mg per day.  I know I will be sick but would appreciate any tips on getting through or what I am in for. Telby

by Telby, Nov 12, 2001 12:00AM
I have been writing but posting down at the bottom.  I guess I don't know my way around this type of forum very well.  My ongoing saga of oxicotin addiction and trying to get stable enough to detox.  Just writing about it is a big help for me as it has been my secret for so long.  I figure also the process of thinking and typing might be good exercise for my poor old drug soaked brain which has been out of practice thinking for a long time.  I have appreciated reading of all of your struggles, victories, and suggestions.  I am now pushing my vitamins and  minerals to hopefully build up my system and am trying to keep my oxicotin use at a minimum of 40mg per day until I can lower my tolerance and then step off.  I have been in and out of addiction most of my life and this last dance with first heroin and now oxicotin has got to be my last.  I want to be normal, feel normal, be able to make plans, be able to trust myself and get out of this mess.  I will continue to check in throughout my days.  Hope this note finds readers well, Telby

by Witchywoman, Nov 12, 2001 12:00AM
To: Telby
Hi Telby,

I'm glad you are reaching out, and that you realized that it is best to post up in earlier threads..many folks (including me) don't check posts way far down.



Narcotics addiction is something many of us here struggle with, and can relate to your desire to get clean.  I'm glad you've gotten some good information from other posts about nutritional supplements etc, and I hope we can keep giving you the support to get clean.  Sometimes just writing about it is enough to help you get through each day, staying on the path to recovery.



Please let us know how you are doing!



love,

WW

by Telby, Nov 12, 2001 12:00AM
To: Witchywomen
So nice of you to respond.  I did mention in a lower posting that I was thinking about taking Naltraxon which is an opiate blocker that causes immediate withdrawl.  Because it is heavy duty stuff (they give it to folks who have gone out with an overdose to bring back) I am lowering my dose of oxy to no more then 40mg per day.  I won't take it until I have at least 24 hours clean but I understand it takes you immediatly through withdrawl physically.  I wondered if you had heard anything about it.  There are places that charge thousands of dollars for this "rapid detox" but my friend has it in pill form.  It's time for my nap but I will check in later.  thanks again for being out there, I am amazed how much it helps to communicate about this.  always, Telby

by Witchywoman, Nov 12, 2001 12:00AM
To: Telby
Hi Telby,

I'd be very careful with taking the Naltrexone without medical supervision. I hear it has some side effects and can be really rough on the body.  Be sure the opiate is completely out of your system if you do decide to take it. I recently heard of someone who had not taken any opiates for 24 hours but there must have still been some in her system, 'cause when she took the naltrexone, BAM~!! she felt extremely ill and had to go to the ER.



The rapid detox treatment centers use very high doses of inravenously injected naltrexone while the patient is under general anasthesia, so they never conciously experience the withdrawals.  Taking Naltrexone in pill form is different. Just really be sure there is no more in your system...honestly I think it takes more than 24 hours, 'cause the meds all have a half life.



Anyway..I'll get off my soap box now, maybe someone with more medical knowledge can give you more info as well.



Take care, and I hope you stay with us!

lov