I never even got into the other website. I wish I had a straight forward answer but I don't.  FirstFirst progesterone mc10
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First-progesterone vgs 400 off, congrats, if you can quit smokingQuitting smoking
Smoking - tips on how to quit
Smoking and copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder)
Smoking and smokeless tobacco
Smoking hazards you can quit anything.  I would quit the meds firstFirst progesterone mc10
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First-progesterone vgs 400, but I would think you would have to stop both at the same time unless you can allow yourself to have a beer once in a while without over doing it, which I highly doubt anyone of us could do..........so I think you might need some guidance here, such as a doctor! AA, NA, one of them is probably going to be needed, but keep posting, we are all here for you, NO MATTER WHAT!!

GWH

Thanks gwh for the quick advice. Its good advice now I only hope

I can do it.

Tom

hinkster:



have you considered what you will do for painAbdominal pain
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all that oxy for intractable painAbdominal pain
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as you are. every 4-5 weeks i'll take a week off and detox my-

self. i do this to so find out where my painAbdominal pain
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Eye burning - itching and discharge
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backBack pain - low
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that you will want to return to it.



hey every one else:



haven't had a lot of time to post since i got backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment from the gulf.

hope things slow down soon.



keep an angel on your shoulder shoulders intensive treatment
Shoulder arthroscopy
Shoulder pain

kip

Hi kip,

  Thanks for the advice. By reading these post for the last two

months before posting I've come to find out your a legend and a

great friend to have. I feel privledged to have you answer my

questions and feel I know you. As to what I'am going to do

about the painAbdominal pain
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why I can't quit the meds.I feel by being on the meds and not

drinking I'am keeping from maybe getting an oui or hurting some

one by driving. Again kip thanks for taking the time and answering my post. You are a fantastic person.

Tom

Hi...

I firstFirst progesterone mc10
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Regarding the drinking vs. meds.  I stopped my daily glass (or two) of wine cold turkey 1 yr ago Feb.  I began getting ill due to the fact I was also taking LortabLortab
Lortab asa and Oxy everyday for chronicAcute vs. chronic conditions
Addison’s disease
Anemia of chronic disease
Cause of chronic bronchitis
Chronic bronchitis
Chronic cholecystitis
Chronic fatigue syndrome
Chronic fatigue syndrome - resources
Chronic lymphocytic leukemia (cll)
Chronic lymphocytic leukemia - microscopic view
Chronic motor tic disorder jointJoint fluid gram stain
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Osteoarthritis/backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment painAbdominal pain
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Bone pain or tenderness
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Chronic pain - resources.  I thought I was "smart" enough to cutCuts and puncture wounds out the alcoholAlcohol and diet
Alcoholism
Alcoholism - resources
Breath alcohol test
Delirium tremens
Fetal alcohol syndrome so I would be "kind" to my liverAmebic liver abscess
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C-section
Cirrhosis
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Gallium (ga.) scan
Hepatic hemangioma
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Hepatocellular carcinoma.  Have a 13 yr old daughter.  Didn't want to give her a bad message on drinking by her watching me.  (Plus I smoke).  So I felt stopping the drinking would be the best thing and didn't make me a hypacrite.  You know "childChild neglect and psychological abuse
Child safety seats
Child tylenol cold multi-symptom plus cough
School age child development...just say no, but watch mommy".  Except for the cigs...and that was always..."when the stressArds (acute respiratory distress syndrome)
Broken bone
Exercise stress test
Fetal heart monitoring
Post-traumatic stress disorder
Respiratory distress syndrome (rds) in infants
Stress and anxiety
Stress echocardiography
Stress formula with iron
Stress gastritis
Stress incontinence is gone, I'll quit).



Well...now I'm sitting at my computer w/chillsChills, diarreah and the jitters.  I was up to 20 10/500mg LortabLortab
Lortab asa per day (ten at a time) and 3 20mg Oxys.  The lortabLortab
Lortab asa wasn't giving me the painAbdominal pain
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Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
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Chronic pain - resources relief it used too nor was I feeling "good" anymore.  I get a script of 160 lortabsLortab
Lortab asa and 94 oxy's a month.



Last week, I decided to tell my parents, my daughter (she was the hardest as she thinks I'm superwoman who can do no wrong), my soon to be ex-husband and my firstFirst progesterone mc10
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Each of them expressed how proud they where of me for coming "clean" with this issue and offered to help in any way.  So...my daughter is at my moms for the week.  So she won't see me go thru withdrawl.  My soon to be ex is staying w/me at night in the event of a medical prob.  My dad is telling me (for the firstFirst progesterone mc10
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I thought after talking to rehabs, I would try detox here at home for the next 8 days on my own.  My plan was/is...to quit cold turkey my lortabLortab
Lortab asa and just take the 3 oxys I'm allowed to have.  I counted out my oxys, gave the bottle to my hubby.  He hid it at his office from me.  And I have no more lortabsLortab
Lortab asa.  I have ambienAmbien
Ambien cr for insommnia.  I bought the stuff for the Thomas receipe, less the valium, xanaxXanax
Xanax xr and such.  



Well, Sunday was my last day on LortabLortab
Lortab asa. Yesterday, I took more oxy's than I should have due to the wd symptoms late in the day and here today (Tues).  It's 3:00, and I've not had anything so far.  I just figured, I would attempt to discontinue the oxys too.  I'd like to see where my real painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources level is.  So far, the only thing that hurts are my kneesAnterior cruciate ligament (acl) injury
Anterior knee pain
Bursa of the knee
Dermatitis, herpetiformis on the knee
Knee arthroscopy
Knee arthroscopy - series
Knee cap dislocation
Knee joint replacement
Knee joint replacement prosthesis
Knee pain
Meniscus tears and shoulders shoulders intensive treatment
Shoulder arthroscopy
Shoulder pain.  It's been storming here for two days.  When the humidity is high...I ache!



My heartCongenital heart disease
Cor pulmonale
Coronary heart disease
Cyanotic heart disease
Depression and heart disease
Heart attack
Heart attack first aid
Heart attack symptoms
Heart bypass surgery
Heart bypass surgery - series
Heart disease-rate is escalating, and I don't have the desire to do a damm thing.  I let my house go last week, hoping I would be so fidgity that I'd clean top to bottom while detoxing.  Maybe I'll call a maid instead.



I bought $200 in food for myself w/lots of sweets yesterday.  I've been craving them for months now.  I think it's from the meds.  I never used to eat sweets.  Weird.



Sooo....if you will all say a prayer that this works for me, I'll certainly do the same for all of you that are trying to quit this pathetic habit we got wrapped up in.  



This habit has cost me my marriage, my business, my heatlh.  I thought of suing the drugChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
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Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
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Drug-induced hypertension manufactures, but I don't have the strength or desire anymore.  I think it's my personalityBorderline personality disorder
Histrionic personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorders, painAbdominal pain
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Spring is this week.  A time for new beginnings.  The spirit of God is telling me now was the time to stop killing myself.  I know I can't fail at this or I'll wind up like M. Monroe and all the others that couldn't stop.



It's not that I have a whole hell of a lot of self worth/love.  It's my beautiful daugther that's keeping me from hurting myself anymore.  I want to see her graduate, marry, become an MD, and be a grandmother.



It's ironic.  I'm in the skinActinic keratosis
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Basal cell carcinoma
Birthmarks - red
Cellulitis
Circumcision
Cutaneous skin tags
Dry skin
Fair skin cancer risks care industry.  People come to me to cheat time and look younger.  These pills, my smokingQuitting smoking
Smoking - tips on how to quit
Smoking and copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder)
Smoking and smokeless tobacco
Smoking hazards...has aged me soooo much more than they can imagine.  And I take their money to look good and spend it on my "happy pills".  All while I have a puffy faceFace pain, dark circles, went from size 4 to 0.  Am 5'5 and 108#. I'm always lying to the girls at the shop and stating it's the stressArds (acute respiratory distress syndrome)
Broken bone
Exercise stress test
Fetal heart monitoring
Post-traumatic stress disorder
Respiratory distress syndrome (rds) in infants
Stress and anxiety
Stress echocardiography
Stress formula with iron
Stress gastritis
Stress incontinence of my divorce that's keeping me up nites, thus the way I look.  



Sorry for rambling...it's got to be the jitters I'm going through.  To comment on this thread...there's nothing to ask yourself "hinkster".  We can not drink or take these meds in moderation.  My only option, and I hope you choose it too...is sobriety.



As far as my painAbdominal pain
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Lortab asa at the pharmacy right now calling me in the backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment of my mind,  And a full liquor cabinet.



If I get too weak...I'll call the rehab.



Thanks for taking the time to read everyone.  I'll be on this site all weak looking for strength.



Hugs and Peace to you all. :)

God bless you and give you strength on this *the hardest* part of your journey to sobriety. I know how you feel... It is the hardest thing in the world that I've ever done. I don't know how I'm getting through it other than the fact that i've been repeating this prayer at least 10 times a day:



God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.



I know that's from AA, but it works for me.



My prayers are with you.

May yours be with me.



Love and serenity to you--

Jess

Hey guys its me bronze I just want to say that I can finally see some light I am now 20 days clean from the torture of oxycontin, I still am having trouble sleepingSleeping difficulty but my  panicPanic disorder
Panic disorder with agoraphobia attacks, and knot in my stomachAbdominal pain
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Feeding tube insertion - gastrostomy
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Stomach are gone ,I still have no energy but make myself excercise  daily my painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain has also worked wonders for me as far as the 5htp the kid  at gnc didnt no what it was what section was it in the aminoAmino-opti-c
Amino-opti-e acids?  I just want to say be strong stay away from the  pharmacy you can make it through this  god bless guys ang gals

      I hope I did this right. FirstFirst progesterone mc10
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     I can't spell either so this should be some fun communication!

We have soooo much in commonCommon cold it's scary. You are probably craving the sweets because you aren't drinking(or not drinking as much) Your body processes alcoholAlcohol and diet
Alcoholism
Alcoholism - resources
Breath alcohol test
Delirium tremens
Fetal alcohol syndrome like its sugar. So, when your are drinking your body is thinking "Ah, a plentiful amount of sweets are here today!" When the drinking slows down or ceases all together your body says "Where are all the sweets, we seem to have run out, must get some now!"

    Drinking will ruin your life, only if you let. But before it ruins you, it will most certainly take your familyBirth control and family planning
Choosing a primary care provider
Ewing’s sarcoma
Family troubles - resources firstFirst progesterone mc10
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Child safety seats
Child tylenol cold multi-symptom plus cough
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Child safety seats
Child tylenol cold multi-symptom plus cough
School age child development. She will lose her mother altogether if her mother doesn't kick this thing in the ass! But I have NO DOUBTS that you indeed will stomp the hell out of your addictionDrug abuse and dependence. Some people have the personalityBorderline personality disorder
Histrionic personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorders for addictionDrug abuse and dependence. You probably enjoy feeling different "lighter" for a bit. It relaxes you, your stressArds (acute respiratory distress syndrome)
Broken bone
Exercise stress test
Fetal heart monitoring
Post-traumatic stress disorder
Respiratory distress syndrome (rds) in infants
Stress and anxiety
Stress echocardiography
Stress formula with iron
Stress gastritis
Stress incontinence fades away.

       You might benefit from antidepressants, then again you might not. The pills help the painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources and also provide the "lift" you require. Pills are a funny thing. They are capable of providing so much relief but they can also trick you into feeling better than you should. Taper off the pills. Don't quit all at once. I speak from personal experience here. Quiting cold turkey puts an enormous amount of pressurePressure ulcer on you to quit, quit now and quit right. Plus, have you thought about what you are going to do about your painAbdominal pain
Abdominal pain diagnosis
Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources, which is real and is a naturalNatural tears part of life. If you can't take those particular pills then what are you going to take? If you suffer on with painAbdominal pain
Abdominal pain diagnosis
Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources it will make it more difficult to detox.

    I'm on methadone and I wish like hell I had never touched the stuff. I have lots to tell you but very little time left. I hope to hear from you very very soon.You need more support in order to make it. But I have the feeling you will prevail no matter what!  I will keep checking.

***@****                      RAMONA666

tom:

thankyou for the complements...but really i'm just another junky.

what i mean to say is we all come as equals, and we remain equals. drugsChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension and painAbdominal pain
Abdominal pain diagnosis
Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources...i never gave any consideration as to what i was going to do if i really neeeded narcoticDrug abuse painAbdominal pain
Abdominal pain diagnosis
Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources relief. quite a deal we got ours selves into. i hope some of the advice posted to you will prove useful. keep us posted, ok







Dawnslight:

welcome to the forum! there will always be room for just one more

addict posting to this forum. that new begining sounded good to me. best of luck with taperin down and quitting. like i told hinkster,keep us posted as to how and what your doing.



Bronzeback:

20 days, that's really great. i wodered what happened to you. i am really glad to hear that you've come 20 days. that's a long way!!



hey everyone  , keep an angel on your shoulder shoulders intensive treatment
Shoulder arthroscopy
Shoulder pain

kip

I haven't posted here since last year but my painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources has crept backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment (from the last ablation)and I am now taking 4 narco and 2x 15 mg ms contin daily for painAbdominal pain
Abdominal pain diagnosis
Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources from a car accident.  I've noticed lately that my sexBuccal smear
Causes of sexual dysfunction
Child abuse - sexual
Delayed ejaculation
Erection problems
Female sexual dysfunction
Inhibited sexual desire
Orgasmic dysfunction
Puberty and adolescence
Rape
Safe sex drive has dwindled to almost nothing, I know this is due to the meds since I got it all backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment (and then some) when I got off my meds last year.  My question is, is there anything that can be done about this other than giveing up my meds and putting up with the painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources?



Thanks to all for your help

Welcome all you new folks. The more the stronger!  I have been where you all are but proud to say I'm almost clean.  Down from 20 - 7.5s to just 4 a day now.  It took a month so far and has sucked.  But still better than cold turkey for me.  Have 3-4 more weeks on my tapper then the work really starts.  That is where I always fail in the past. But, I'm gonna do it this time.  Have already fessed up to my wife, tomorrow go to my doctor and spill my guts to him.  No more secrets.  Tom, dawnslight and bronzeback... welcome.



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