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FIORICET ??? Are you Familiar

by radioboy74, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
Out of the two Codeine and the Butibital in Fioricet what is the most addicting?  It works very well on my tension headaches however I have heard contradicting stories.
Member Comments (41)

by rowanshyne, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: DON'T LEAVE ME HERE ALONE!!
Hey everyone, I need you *today*, I've been horribly busy, taking care of life, trying to taper.  I'm finally able to get to this board and beg for help and you're all mad at each other.

The tapering is working, but I've been crying for three solid days.  My email is down, so ............

I came here to whine and snivel and beg for encouragement, and not only has everyone gone away mad, RADIOFRIGGIN'BOY is at the top of the bloody list!

I'm on the recipe and also taking my Welbutrin.  Can I start taking the L-Tyrosine *before* I'm completely off the Vicoden?

Please, somebody, just come talk to me.

Please.





Wren

by hippy, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: wren
yes wren you can start the receipe now

i has been working wonders for me i have 5 weeks off the vikes

good luck , i hope you feel better ,

by hippy, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: wren
l-tyrosine is part of the receipe a big part,don,t forget the imodium,  you don't want to lose all the nuentrents in your body with the runs that can lead to much added discomfort

bannanas are real good for the leg spasms/restless legs.



keep posting , it will be ok. don't pay atention to any bikering here on the site , it's really not that big a deal, hope fully

we will all just keep our eyes on recovery and answers to withdrawl problems. and other pertnent questions about getting cleaned up and pain management

every one here has a lot to offer in these departments

thanks for posting.

by rowanshyne, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: hippy, WW, Dr. X
Thank you so much.  My worst problem is feeling so awfully sad, and alone.  Too sad to go somewhere and *not* be alone.

I've been taking all of the recipe except the L-Tyrosine.  I have no idea why, but I thought I was supposed to wait 'til I was completely *off* the vikes to start taking it. ?  Oh!  That was the buprenex, wasn't it?

I haven't been able to get the buprenex yet, thanks though, WW.

My email's going to be down a few days.  When it's back up, WW, I can send you a copy of the Pagan 12-Steps.



Hippy, you saved me.  When I got here only to find Radioboy, I figured the Universe was playing another joke on me.



Dr. X.  I read your note.  It helped a great deal.  One doesn't feel so sad if they know they've helped another.



BB

Wren

by hippy, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: wren/5htp
5htp is a supplment to increce seratonen levels

i have been taking for the last 10 days and is great for

depression, and those feelings of being overwhelmed,and alone

'you might want to look into it it seems to be working  for me.

i have been feeling better since i added it to the receipe.

peace

by rowanshyne, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: hippy
5htp?  Is it very expensive and can I take it *with* my Welbutrin?

Also, would flushing my raucous parrot down the toilet be detrimental to my recovery at this point? lol! Yes, I'm feeling a little better now that I've had someone to talk with, hippy.



The parrot is a Quaker, about ten inches high and when she's getting demanding, she owns a squawk that feel like sandpaper on my brain.



Making some more chamomille tea and trying to find an online site to help me write a resume',

rock on, hippy,

wren

by IrishRose, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: rowanshyne
It is good to see you back, hope you are feeling better soon. I've been having an overly sensitive day I guess. I heard something read in a 12 step mtg the other night- as long as the ties that bind us together are stronger than those that would tear us apart- all will be well. We're all still here, pay no attention to the irritability, I guess we all still know that we are not alone and doing the best we can to help each other. Blessings to all- IR

by rowanshyne, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
I've been tapering down and staying busy.  Need to get a job, even if it's just for a little while.  Trying to stay alive while waiting for Disability could do a person some serious damage.

I'm doing well on the tapering.  Chamomille tea and sleeping in a tub of hot water for those hideous limb "ticklings".

The worst part really does seem to be the depression, just crying and crying.  I'll take the L-tyrosine tomorrow.  It's so late now, I'm afraid it will keep me awake.



Thank you for helping me tonight.

Wren

by alchemist, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
I'm no expert, but I think they both are equally addictive but with different WD symptoms.  The Barbutal can cause seizures if it is abruptly stopped, while the codeine will cause classic abstanince symptoms (chills, sweating, vomiting, etc) to appear.



Just my 2 cents

by angst, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: Fioricet
I od's off about 60 Esgic, another name for plain fiorcets.  The barbituate level was too high to read.  What is the worst of it was my daughter finding me on the kitchen floor, barely breathing.  So it is a dangerous drug to be taking more than prescribed.  You the sedation qualities of butibital and the buzz form the codeine.  I'd find something safer to take, if I had the tendancy to take too much.  The tylenol is not good for the liver either.  Go either clean up or find a better drug to abuse.  Good luck and post back.

by hippy, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: radio boy
here is a sit that effects of codein and barbiturates



its called drug effects

http://www.nh-dwi.com/caip-213.htm

by skipper, May 12, 2002 12:00AM
To: Rowanshyre
wren:

as my wife told you in an earlyer post, welcome back!! now you should know this by now, i'm going to say it anyhow... there will

ALWAYS be room for just one more addict.................



about all the fussing, fighting, and feuding. i don't know what to

say...it seems to be something to pass the time on weekends...



believe it or not, it's all a part of getting clean and staying

staying clean. personality conflict was a problem for me before do-

ing drugs, while doing drugs, and of course while getting clean from drugs! hang in there, were not like this all ther time, ok?

anyhow good to see you back!!



keep angel on your shoulder!

kip

by OxyDout, May 13, 2002 12:00AM
To: hippy
I might get on the recipe, now that i'm completely sober, it might help with the lethargy, and or depression.

by hippy, May 13, 2002 12:00AM
To: gwh
good to see ya posting  you were here when i found this fourm

2 months ago, thanks for being there.

ya the receipe along with the 5htp has taken the depressions i used to get when  ever i was kicking, and completly lifted it.

no depression at all , and let me tell  ya the depression used to kick my but.  the receipe has helped greatly with that lack of energy problem.   good luck. peace.

by oh please already, May 13, 2002 12:00AM
To: Everyone and groovy
good morning everyone.  I see the fur is flying around here.I have to tell you that Ive been haunting the forum for the last few days because my feelings too were hurt- I know that sometimes my post seem garbled but thats usually because im rocking em and pecking with one finger as she sleeps in my lap, plus i spell like **** and also sometimes i find to get my real feelings out,i just have to say it,without censour or if i think too much about grammer,i lose the essance.Like groovy i feel like no one was listening,and     i was just begin humored,kinda lika a birthday party i was invited to when i was 8, i thought i was with friends and then over heard someone say i was just there because her mother made her invite me because i invited her ro my party.It was shatteringBUT THATS HOW I FELT,not how i feel .time gives a new prepective to many things.We all know why we are here, and We all know that we are manic-yes,i jump from highs to lows in a blink,on top of the world then in the mud,Yes it must seem flakey,and must be annoying for those who take the time  to offer help,,and it must seem like i am just not listening to all tha advice people offer,but you know thats not it.If we all knew how to cope with our feelings and life in a healthy way I dont think we would all be here on the forum,AND WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER THIS- maybe its a full moom or maybe like long term partners we are starting to look alike,or maybe were all cycling at the same time but it is very apparent that WE are having a collective breakdown,Its ok when we take turns,because then we just help pull the stuggling one up,but right now we are all struggling and I know,AND YOU know that no one here is trying to hurt anyone.WE need to be honest and fair-when things get tough for you or I we act like a ****-so lets not assume,that the person standing next to us can do any better,give up your hand and maybe together we can pull ourselfs free from this break in the ice because,i know for a fact my arm is too short to do it alone-but if we make a chain and spread the weight of our troubles we will be able to get on thicker ice,without leaving anyone alone to flounder and sink. (pretty good huh?LOL   i was inspired by  the poets on the forum)  laura

by rowanshyne, May 13, 2002 12:00AM
To: Skip and all
Oh, I know about the crankiness.  I do not work and play well with others myself, on *many* occasions.  

I knew you all would be back, I was just being selfish and needing you NOW!! LOL!!  Give that angel on your shoulder a hug from the little, round witch.  If she's looking after an addict, she deserves a hug.

I like the phrase "Always room for one more addict".  In my travel through life, I've found I like addicts, and alcoholics the best.  They understand emotional challenge, a generally maintain a better sense of humor about themselves than Normals.



I wasn't able to get any bup, so I'm simply doing the slow taper. SIMPLY!  Bwahahahaha!   Simply! Oh, gods, thats silly.  I needed that!  It's working though.  I'm now trying to remember exactly why it was I wanted to find out how bad the pain is really getting.  Oh.  Yeah.  150 mg of vike a day and climbing, that's it.



The pain's still here, but so am I.

Thanks for the "meditation", WW.  Got a chance to use a hot tub in Circle last night.  Sulis came and calmed.



Blessings,  

Wren

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