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Addiction to pain meds

by TeleVision, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
a little history, i got assaulted in mexico by about 4 guys and got the **** kicked out of me. never went to the doctor, was a tough teenager. now years later i get in a horrible car accident im lucky to survive and my back has never been the same since.

  so my doctor's think since im so young (22) that i shouldnt have strong pain killers. i finally got my doc to give me Norco 10/325 (Hydrocodone/apap) and Soma 350mg. this worked ok for a while but now i finish my months supply in 2 weeks so i went to him and asked to be put on something stronger like percocet but he basically laughed and said i was on something plenty strong.

  well so i took things into my own hands and now i am on a variety of very strong pain meds unregulated by a doctor. i take OxyContin 80mg, MS Contin 100mg, dilaudid 8 mg, and also get things sent imported to me like pentazocine, codiene phosphate, and morphine. i know i am very addicted now and things have gotten out of control. i mix and match pills for combination reations; i really dont know what to do. i dont shoot up, this all comes from wanting to control my pain but unlimited access to drugs is an easy way for things to go out of control. i really am just venting, i dont want to go on methadone, i just wish my doc would have helped me before i got to this situation. well theres my story.
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by OxyDout, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: tele vision
Ok, first off, welcome!! I'll let skipper give you the official introduction to the forum.  Anyway, don't take this the wrong way, but you can't blame your doctor for this. The meds he gave you shouldn't have been gone in 2 weeks. You shouldn't be mixing all those drugs either.  I can understand your in awful pain but your addicted, not physically dependant but addicted. In order for you to stop you need to find the right doctor and right drug to stabilize your pain and then you are going to have to stop taking such a high dosage, but hey, its really easy to sit here and give you a lecture because I'm an angel............ ya right, haha, I was taking 160mg - 200mg of oxy a day.  I guess when you post here for a while you get to see threads started like yours and you wish you could stop people from using.  Its a long road to hell.  So I guess what you need to do is find the right doc, but try to refrain from using any pills to get high.  Don't buy off the street!! Find another doctor!!!  I hope your doing ok today, keep posting, there are many helpful people in this forum...



GWH

by TeleVision, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: gwh
thanx for you response. today im actually doin very badly (on the verge of going into withdrawls), is probably the reason i decided to write the post. one thing i didnt mention i also take benzodiazepines (valium, xanax, klonipin) to fight off withdrawl effects from the opiate pain pills. yea it is easy to say just stop and find a good doctor cause ive been to many and most are even more strict then the one i go to now, and want to put me on tylenol w/ codiene or ibuprofen HA! now thats a laugh.

i finished my 30 day suplly in 2 weeks not cause i was trying to get high i was trying to control my pain and the reccomeded dosage was not controling my pain at all. its snowballed from there. i feel trapped in this cycle, i really dont know what to do.

by skipper, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: television
television:

welcome to he forum, always room for just one more junky in here!

i hope to see more posts from you!



get honest with your doc! i know this is the last thing in the

world you want to do, but sooner or later you will have to. also

start looking for an addiction specialist and/or a pain mgt.

specialist. perhaps your doc is in over his head?



most competent MDs will not leave you in pain, but they won't think too much of getting you *loaded.* honesty and trust are

going to be needed at both ends here.

best of luck and keep posting

keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

by OxyDout, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: tele vision/skipper
I love how there is always room for one more junky.  Anyway, I had a surgeon who would always prescribe me 90 hydros with 3 refills, I could call him anytime and he would refill it, no joke!! You shouldn't worry about getting your doctor to prescribe something more potent, you should tell him exactly what has happened. Tell him your in severe pain, more then you can handle, and that the prescription isn't cutting it.  Then tell him you "dabbled" with oxycontin and now your stuck in the middle or withdrawals (I could never tell my doctor this, so don't feel bad if you don't think you can) anyway, that is your best option, then see what he has to say.

by TeleVision, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: gwh
see thats the thing i have tried many times to tell him, even having an MRI and he refused to put me on anything stronger. i dont see how an oxycontin 10 mg would be any worse then Norco 10/325 except for this media craze about OxyContin "the next Heroin" has turned it into a devil drug. i mean at least OxyContin doesnt have acetometphen which is proven to do damage to your liver. it works great for me but i buy OC 80s because they are the best price per mg from my source.

i think anything i say to my doc will fall on deaf ears and if anything he will cut me off, which would be devistating, i still depend on that month supply and hardly any doctors will presribe Soma anymore, and i cant stand flexeril just makes me fall asleep. i guess i need to keep looking for another doctor.



TV

by OxyDout, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: TV
how did you come up with the name "Tele Vision"  Well then, let him cut you off, take skips advice, go see a pain doc, thats your best bet, they will be much more understanding then who your dealing with now.  I know you have been looking for another doctor, but you should really find a pain doctor, someone who can really help, you know??  Keep posting, we will be here for you.



GWH

by mrmichael67, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: TeleVision
I can empathize with you because I had been put in the same situation.  At one point, I couldn't walk and I was still expected to take one percocet every 4 hours.  Oh yeah, sure, that's going to work!  And, not wanting to be in excrutiating pain, I did take enough to control the pain.  And, I ran out too early.  What state do you live in?  There are a lot of people that will easily blame their doc for their situation.  But, there are also a lot that think just because someone is blaming their doc, that the person must just be an addict.  And, if your story is true, then let those words go in one ear and out the other.  Just because you are young, and so am I, there isn't any reason for you not to have proper pain control.  But, like Skipper said, go to a pain specialist.  You have to get everything under control now, or things will just continue to get more out of hand.  And, don't let anyone tell you that you are too young.  Pain is pain.  I hope like hell that this isn't true, but what if you have to be in pain for the rest of your life.  The only thing that being young means is that it will be that much longer that you will have to put up with your pain.  And, no one should have to live like that.  Addict or not.  And, whether you are an addict or physically dependent is neither here nor there right now.  Get your pain under control and then see where you are at.  If you are indeed an addict, then a different approach might be called for.

by OxyDout, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: mrmichael67
I don't know if that was a shot at me, but the only reason I said he was addicted was because TV was talking like I used to talk, and by the way I'm only 22 myself, I have had percs/oxy since 5 years ago.  I don't want you to think I'm irritated or anything, I'm not at all, I just wanted to make sure that you and Tele Vision both know that I was just trying to help. you know?? so if that was a shot at my post then Fu-- you!!! just kidding, I need a laugh and I thought that would be funny. Its kind of hard to interpret humor through posting.  However, Skipper does it well. I always see you post (mrmichael67) but your info doesn't ring a bell, you said your young, how young? and what area are you from? I live outside Boston. DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY AND OR SERIOUSLY, JUST POKIN A LITTLE FUN.

by Hinkster, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: gwh
We're allowed to have fun around here once in awhile. It keeps us out of the doldrums we're in every day. I'am with you one hundred percent. Make me laugh. By the way I'am just outside Springfield Ma. It must be catchy or this is just a fun loving

state.

Tom

by hippy, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: gwh
im frrom philly' i think mr michael is from jersy,

not that it realy matters where we are from.

most of us are either in major pain or have gone through major pain.

me , i have been through major pain, and while i was going through it , i felt like i was drowning, or being smothered.

the thought of just shooting my self used to go through my head every day for about 2 years,

the worst part about it ,was the thought that   i might have to go through  it the rest of my life, that was truly to much to deal with, and just made things worse.

im rambling , hope everyone  does just a little better each day.

mr. michael your info and experence is a strong asset to this fourm. many thanks to you for taking the time to share your experence and knowledge.        



peace

by TeleVision, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: gwh
TeleVision is my nick, the meaning of it shall remain a mistery to you all, sorry to say. i will say i am from Dallas, TX proud and love my city and even more my state of Texas.

on the other note i have talked to these 'pain specialists' in town and man they are so expensive its absurd. but maybe its just what i need to do. its just hard to stop sending money to my source though when i runn out of pills (like now). i mean right now the only reson i am not going into withdrawls and sweats is because i have bottles of valium, xanax, and klonopin to take to settle my nerves and relax me. i never take any benzo's unless im out of opiates or i need to sleep. they do work OK but i dont much enjoy them at all.



Tele

by TeleVision, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: mrmichael67
i appriciate your advise man. i hope to god i am not in this pain for the rest of my life too. excercise has helped a bit but still i get severe pain. and if you read my original post i clearly stated I AM ADDICTED. im not gonna lie to myself im an opiate addict but this all stems from trying to control a legitimate problem to turning to alternate sources who only care about how many pills you are getting not weather it is too much for you or if you are getting addicted. but thats why i should have not let myself get to this point, i always thought i was in such control of my life but this situation i feel has gotten out of my control and really feel helpless. sounds pathetic i know but this is my world i have made for myself.



TeleVision

by alchemist, May 17, 2002 12:00AM
To: mrmichael