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DAY 7 !!!!

by kell737, Aug 10, 2002 12:00AM
Morning everyone.  I actually woke up this morning feeling pretty decent (unlike the last few day) ... I have been without Percocet for 7 days now!  Just to be able to say that is the most wonderful feeling.   I wanted to ask  you all ....  Do doctors give meds to help with withdrawls  (ones THAT ACTUALLY help)?  My sister is kind of going through the same thing only her withdrawls are from Ultram.    Does anyone that's taken Ultram  or Any drug for that matter help me out alittle.  Just trying to give my sister some advice.     CLEAN 7 DAYS BABY!!!!!!!    



~Kell
Member Comments (12)

by alexandra_r, Aug 10, 2002 12:00AM
To: Kel
Congratulations--good for you.  Today is day 10 for me and I feel better than I have all week.  I have more energy and have been doing a variation of Thomas's recipe (I'm taking less l-tyrosine).  My back still hurts but it is a little more bearable today probably because I feel better in other respects.  If you haven't tried the recipe, I would do that.  I was _very_ skeptical and I think it really has helped.

by koalabear, Aug 10, 2002 12:00AM
To: Alexandra § Kel
CONGRATS T0 B0TH OF YOU.  KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND JUST THINK HOW FAR YOU'VE BOTH COME!



GREAT JOB!



KOALA

by kell737, Aug 10, 2002 12:00AM
Good after noon to everyone.  Not so good for me.  I'm getting really irratated and I'm starting to look for excuses to take a pill again.  Seems everytime I'm about to give up I post and you all help me out.  This is a royal Bit**!  Been watching movies and eating all day, trying to keep my mind off of taking the percocet.  I think the main reason I'm proud of my self is because I have 9 pills left in my medicine cabinet and those SAME 9 have been there for 7 days now.  Thankd God I have a supportive family.  My husband has been great through all this.  



Even though I had to lock up my meds today (physically)  I still think I'm doing ok for the first time even trying to clean clean.  (after 8 years!!)   Hope everyone is having a good day.  



~kell

by annie_f, Aug 10, 2002 12:00AM
Hello,



I hope you don't mind me posting on someone elses subject.  I suppose we're all here for the same reason.



I really don't know where to begin.  I took my last roxicet yesterday afternoon, about 25 hours ago.  I had tried, over and over, to wean myself.  That was a joke.  I actually was able to sleep last night, although I woke with extreme stomach cramps.  Today I just felt tired, hot/cold, been in the bathroom all day.  I had been taking roxicet (oxycodone 5mg/APAP 325mg), due to pain from endometreosis,constantly over the last 3 months.  About 10 a day.  Of course the pain was never as bad as I led the DR believe.  Two weeks ago I had surgery to remove the endometreosis, which I actually had a fair amount of.  I thought, "well, that worked out great.  Now I'll get more roxicet".  Well, I found out they definately cut you off from pain meds after surgery alot faster than for chronic pain.  So, I'm hoping I'm not going to be in hell for the next few days with w/d symptoms.  I have withdrawn from other meds over the past 5 years or so (Ultram, Vicodin) and maybe it's obvious I need help, I just haven't wanted to face that.  I guess the thing that's stopped me is that I had been able to go for a year at a time, not using anything, then sure enough, I'll be given a prescription from the dentist, or something and I'll want the stuff all the time.



Since I've kicked this **** on my own before, I know I can do it.  I really don't want to be in this position again.  My husband doesn't have a clue as to all of this.  I'm so scared of telling him lest he loose respect for me.  We have been trying to have a baby for 4+ years now and I'm scared he may blame me.  However I think that I was getting more and more depressed from the infertility and always wanting to escape to the "wonderful world of opiates".  They really do allow you to kind of "drop out of life".  It's so sad that so many of us want to do that.



So, 1) Does anyone know about how long it would take me to experince total W/D symtoms?

2) Does my kind of usage constitute going to a rehab?

3) Does anyone recommend a good online NA or pill abuser support website?



I thank you.  I have promised myself to come here each day to read about the horrors of drug withdrawel so that I never forget what this garbage does.

by GOD, Aug 10, 2002 12:00AM
To: annie_f
Welcome to our forum!



You know what you're talking about, and you seem to be a very intelligent person, SO I'll try to answer your questions as honestly and "Straightforwardly" as I can!



You asked, "So, 1) Does anyone know about how long it would take me to experince total W/D symtoms?

2) Does my kind of usage constitute going to a rehab?

3) Does anyone recommend a good online NA or pill abuser support website?



AS for question number 1, are you asking how long it would take to get "Over" the symptoms, or how long until you experienced the "Worst" symptoms?



Once you stop taking your opiates, you will feel the worst between 24 hours to 72 hours from taking your last dose. (keep in mind that all of us have different body chemistry, so for you it may be slightly different, but in my experience, the numbers I gave above are pretty average.



Getting over the physical aspect of withdrawls varies greatly, but a conservative estimate would be approximatly 7 days until your body starts feeling "Normal" again. Remember, however, that the hardest part of recovery for most of us addicts is the psychological withdrawl. We lived for so many months of even YEARS a lifestyle of escaping reality, counting pills, thinking of how to get more pills. It was a GIANT part of our lives. once you have successfully rid your body of the drugs, you will need to start doing other activities to fill in that LARGE hole in your life that was previously taken by our drug seeking/drug use.  There are differing opinions on what methods work the best, but one thing I've found helpful is lots of exercise. not only is it good for your body, but it also helps your brain produce endorphins, (the feel-good chemicals that our brains stop producing because we've been putting opiates in our bodies that tend to make our brain shut off it's own feel-good chemicals.



As for your question of treatment, you may want to look into a Narcotics Anonymous group first, as the support in these groups IS WONDERFUL. If it seems that you just cannot get off the pills no matter what you do, then there are many inpatient treatment facilities that have a great success rate. I had to check myself into one for my terrible drinking problem, and it DID WORK! As for my prescription drug problem-- I was able to kick my habit through NA and AA meetings, but especially this VERY FORUM helped the most. I guess that answered your third question....



Just KEEP reading this forum, and POST often. Make it a point to share how you are doing in your recovery, and ask questions! There are many people here that have great experience, and will treat you with compassion and understanding.



If you are seriously looking into inpatient drug treatment facilities, I can give you a list of the best, AND least expensive facilities in the nation. Just E-Mail me at ***@****



Boy, I guess my fingers wanted the exercise tonight! Sorry to ramble on this long.



Happy trails!

Jess

by tex3, Aug 11, 2002 12:00AM
To: annie_f
Hi Annie and welcome! I, too, got started on this because of endometriosis. I also went years just taking vics whenever I got my hands on them. Finally, after several surgeries and when I was in chronic pain (although not always as bad as I said, and when it was really bad I welcomed it - more pills), I was put on painkillers daily. I took everything from the Duragesic patch, Oxycontin, Oxycodone, and Norco - which was always my favorite. I went through WD many times when I ran out of pills. I decided to quit once and did inpatient detox, but was not really ready and was still in pain. Still, I stayed clean and took buprenex for pain, which was wondeful for me and did not leave me physically dependent, nor did I abuse it (although others react differently to it). I stayed on that for about 6-7 months until my doctor had to quit prescribing it due to a bureaucratic thing with the DEA. So he put me back on Norco and I went way, way downhill. In the end, I was taking 30/day, but that was right after surgery to finally remove my last ovary, which was bleeding badly and really did hurt tremendously. By that point, nothing could really touch the pain, my tolerance was so high. I quit cold one week after the surgery, which was more than four months ago.

My husband, who always knew what I was doing and disapproved seriously, really stood by me in the end. I detoxed at home, with the help of some meds to mute the symptoms, and that helped me so much - I don't know if I could have done it without that. I'd gotten so bad that when I woke up in the mornings I'd already be withdrawing, just 8 hours after my last dose of pills. I'm so glad that's all behind me!

After three months of continual use, you're probably in WD right now. You really need to talk to your doctor or see an addiction doctor to help you get off this, or go cold at home and try to make it through the WD. That's horrible, as I'm sure you know by now. Best of luck and please write if you need more info or help; my address is ***@****.

tracy

by annie_f, Aug 11, 2002 12:00AM
To: Jess § Tracy
Hey Jess, Tracy, and Everyone,



I just want to thank you so much for responding to my message.  It really helps tremendously to communicate with people who truly understand and have been in my shoes.



I'm hanging in there, 44 hours since my last roxicet.  I did have a rough time sleeping last night, if you could call it sleep.  I was in the bathroom many, many times last night as my digestive system is trying to get rid of everything.  I also was freezing cold with blankets off me but would sweat with even a sheet covering me...ahhhh!  My legs had that awful restless feeling.  I found the most comfortable way I could rest a little was to turn my heating pad on high and keep moving it around my legs, at the same time I had the fan pointing on me to keep me from getting too hot.  A heating blanket to wrap my legs in  would've even be better.  It just made things bearable and kept me from absolutely climbing the walls.  I also took 2 Benadryl and a Phenergan pill (for nausea) which are both very sedating.  So, today I feel hopefull that I can handle it, if things don't get much worse.  If they do, I will promptly march into my DRs office Monday morning and demand something be done, over course, something OTHER than an more Opiates.  I also am going to speak with my DR and have him note in my medical record that I never, ever want or should be prescribed any Opiates.  The pain of withdrawels from them are way worse than any pain the DR was treating.  I hope and pray I never need another surgery as I don't know how I'd handle that kind of pain with only Ibuprofen.  I also am going to ask him to refer me to someone, a therapist to help me deal with my infertility.  Looking back, I truely think that this is a huge reason for my desire to "escape reality".  



I thank God for this forum, for all of you who post here, and especially for you Jess & Tracy.  Thank you for reaching out to me.  You are all such an inspiration to me and give me hope that I can kick this destructive behavior.  



Annie

by tex3, Aug 11, 2002 12:00AM
To: Annie
Sounds like you're doing everything right. You are probably at your worst right now, but the next day or so won't be a piece of cake. Still, I think the third day is the hardest. Is this the first time you've really withdrawn? I really think you should call your doctor tomorrow and tell him to help you through this. He should know, if he's prescribed the pills for three months straight, that you are going to go through withdrawal now. There are things that can help with the WD symptoms. Hang in there and let us know how you are, and congratulations on making it!

tracy

by scotty-n-dc, Aug 13, 2002 12:00AM
I just read Kellys' post...I am rack rail addicted to perks. Mega doses, i quit 4 moths ago, and i got over the hump in about 7 days, and then I landed another batch, and I took them, I did 3 blue 5 mgs with my signature Frappe Starbucks. I love the way the hi dose of sugar and caffiene spread the dope through my body....my daily rush...sleep, wake up, and the painfull walk of the day from my bed to the basement, for the coffee, and the pecosets, 2 washed down with coffee, and sit while I wait for it to come in. 3 years of this, and I already have been taking Xanax 2 mgs a day and 10mgs of Valium to sleep...the tranquilizers by doctor. I am now in day 2...and i feel like hell. Miserable! Only this time, I am going to stay with it. I want to share with you why, perhaps it might empower you from goin to your score/supply/stash....1st...I can accurately track my success to a downslope connected with my addiction, staying on that stuff willl make your teeth fall out prematurely. I got my supply normally 60 a clip, I have been living 60 at a time, and it jus ain't ever gonna end! I used to be a pot head, I smoked the stuff if i woke up to pee in the night, no joke, 5 years non stop hi...I quit...I was a boozer, to the tune of a broken record and it was all I could see at the time and I could not imagine getting out of it, til something happened...60 percosets in 6 days is insane, but lets be honest...it was not getting me high anymore!  I belive addicts are addicts because we are more sensitive, CREATIVE, we need our escape from the box.....So let me tell you what i am going to do, I am going to post you each day...look for my post, beause I am gonna beat the hell out of this awful addiction, and i am gonna tell you how I am doing it. I read everything I could pull up on Percoset detox, and i found not too many innovators, and very little in techic ...there are debiltating or harmful symptoms that after some attention were healed with more salt, or calcium in thier diet