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Good Morning to you all....

by MMT-Md, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
Hello everyone I hope you had a nice weekend and I want to congradulate BMAC,TUSS and KELL for there clean time and any of you that I haven't seen post there clean time great job, keep up the fight and stay honest with yourself. IF you folks don't mind I sure would like to know how long you all been clean. Of course if thats personal to you, then I respect that.



                           GREAT JOB!!!! Dr.MIke....
Member Comments (27)

by percsnomas, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
Aug. 7/02 decided to quit.

Tapered from 60-90mg/day Oxycodone to Zero in 12 days.

Useage approx. 3 years (L5-S1 Disc Herniation; two surgeries, and 3 MRI'S)

CLEAN AND LOVING IT (Entering my 4th week)

by bmac, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Dr.Mike
bamc here,actually it's Bill.I have been clean for 20 days.

On wellbutrin and that's it.Thanks for coming here.We need the

professional help.

                           bmac

by bmac, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: percsnomas
I have had the L4/5 and S1 anterior and posterior fusion.

They went thru the front and back.It was a ruff surgery

but my fused back will still be in the grave when they dig me up.Solid as a rock.Looks good on xray too.I was lucky,they

didn't use any pins or wires.Only bone from my hips.

Stay clean.

                                     bmac

by Chuck99, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
I have been sober for 16 days ( I did smoke a bowl or two though :)

by percsnomas, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: bmac
Wow, you make my 2.5 cm microdiscetomy/laminectomy feel like a mosquito bite.

REGARDLESS, STAY STRONG  BROTHER...

Naprosyn has been a life saver.

by alexandra_r, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Dr. Mike
Hi Dr. Mike--



Well, it depends on what is considered "clean."  I believe that if you take medication because of legitimate pain then it doesn't interfere with your clean time.  I was addicted to heroin, methadone and cocaine over ten years ago for approximately 6 years.  I had not done any drugs (other than marijuana--which has never been a problem for me) until I injured my back about 17 months ago.  Then, I began taking vicodin--only as prescribed--did none of the crazy things that I did when I was using hard, street drugs.  I decided I wanted to go off the vicodin about 2 months ago and tapered down slowly.  I have been off the vicodin since around August 1 (so about 5 weeks).  I did take vicodin after moving weekend before last--took it for a couple of days while I was in intense pain, but haven't taken any since.  



For me, being clean means having relationships that work (with my husband, my friends, my family), being honest with myself, being able to show up for what I'm supposed to do.  My life is great right now--I have a great marriage, a good job that I really like, things are going really smoothly.  So, I'd say I've been "clean" for over ten years--I don't really count the legitimate use of vicodin as "using."

by bmac, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: alexandra
That was beautiful.It is all a matter of will.You hit it on the head.I'm sure Dr.Mike will agree.You are clean.You are the only one that really know you.Great post,thanks.20 days clean

                               bmac

by percsnomas, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Alexandra_r
Just a quickie..THANK YOU

I've read all your posts....and sooooooooooo many are so positive; that I just wanted to thank you.

You are a phenomal inspiration(and take care of your back)

by percsnomas, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
...that would be 'phenominal'

by Kritty, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
hi



I need some help!!! I relapsed two weeks ago and since then I have taken pills every 2 or 3 days. Today is Day 3 clean and I am so upset with myself. I went to detox in July and feel as if it went to waste. What do I do? My step-mother has pills and it is very hard for me to be there without taking any. How does relapse happen? Anything could happen to make an excuse...it sucks. I need to get back on track...please help!



-T

by elyse, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
I've got 18 days off benzos. It's not easy I think about them alot. I'm glad I found this site.it really helps to know I'm not the only one. I don't get much time for meetings. so this is my meeting today. Thanks

by winter68, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
I have been clean from herion for 2 1/2 years, from a 5 year addiction and have tapered down to 10mgs from 120mgs of methadone. so I don't consider myself clean yet, but next week I should be. I can't wait. Does anyone know if msm helps with w/d's? for some reason I can't post a question on this board.

by tex3, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Need help
Hi everyone. Seems like there's many new people here, and welcome to all of you. I haven't posted much lately as I've been really busy with a class I'm taking and trying to do some freelance work. For those of you I don't know, I've been on here for the past five months, since I got clean (April 1). I need a little support today, or maybe just to vent.



I've had a nagging tooth ache (if it's not one thing it's another, huh?) and finally got bad enough that I went to the dentist on Friday, who said I need a root canal - ouch, never had one, but not looking forward to it. He gave me antibiotics and a small amount of pain pills. I gave the pills to my husband to hold. He's given me one a day, no more. The antibiotics are working enough that I don't think I need them anymore. I'm scheduled for the procedure on Friday, if I can scrounge the money up. Anyway my problem is just knowing the pills are around totally preoccupies me. I searched for them, the whole bit. So I called him today and said when he gets home I want to just flush them. I'm fine if I know there's nothing around and I can't get any. But take one, and know there's more around, and the cravings kill me. I think about them, get depressed, all that old **** comes back. I actually did some research on this and discovered very interesting facts about changes in the brain that cause this to happen in addicts. Which is all great, but doesn't help me too much to deal with the cravings! Anyway I think I'll be fine when he gets home and we flush them. I actually flushed two right when I got them, just to show that I could do it. Stupid, huh?

Thanks for letting me vent. I feel better already, talking about it. When I'm not here, there's no one in my life who has any firsthand experience with this (who's been through it themselves) so I start to drift.

Anyone else find themselves preoccupied with pills when you know they're around? It sucks! On top of the damn tooth pain, which at this point I'd rather deal with and am pretty much okay with.

Thanks,

Tracy

by JSmith02, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Need Help
I just had a root canal. The way they do them now, they're not so bad. I've had fillings that hurt worse. A little Advil and you can make it past the first day. After that, you won't know you had one.



Thomas

by tex3, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
Thanks. I'm okay with the pain, really, it's more the preoccupation with the pills, which is why I'm going to flush them when my husband gets home (he hid them). I know it sounds weird, but I plug along pretty much fine when I know they're not around. But given access or just knowing if I bug him enough I could get them, and it's all I think about. Just venting. Thanks Thomas!

by Tuss-ex, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Dr Mike § Kritty


Dr. Mike I have been clean now for 5 days.  This is uncharted territory for me, but thanks to the people here staying clean seems possible.  I had a 3+ year addiction my drug of choice was tussonex, but in the end I would take anything with hydrocodone mostly to avoid w/d.



Kritty,

Please don't beat yourself up over a relapse, God knows I have had many.  In fact, I don't think it is possible for most the first few times... Desire to quit is what is important, I fear relapsing all the time (like every minute) just keep trying you are stronger than you can believe.  The more people you can confide in the better...I will pray for you and hope that you are okay.  



God Bless

by percsnomas, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: tex3
Sounds like you have the answer already, just that ever powerful mind wanted to "test" you again.  Well, don't let it.

Get rid of them(I also have an upcoming date with the dentist; and plan on using Motrin)

I've thanked you before for your words of wisdom, so I wish I had enough time to read them back to you....I think you'd be surprised how much you've helped others.

by alexandra_r, Sep 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Tex3
Tracy, I'm sorry to hear about your tooth problems.  I can definitely relate to this because I have about 20,000 worth of dental work in my mouth (and that is absolutely no exaggeration).  You know, all those years on heroin didn't really take their toll on me physically--my health is pretty good except for my back, and I even LOOK okay, but where I see the damage is in my teeth.  I have had a lot of painful procedures, including root canals.  It is highly individual how painful these are--it depends on your own individual pain threshold, your dentist's procedures, and how deep the root is or if it is rooted at an angle.  I took percoset or vicodin for all the major work I had done and I never got addicted to the pain medication.  I'm sure this is partly due to the fact that dentists (most) don't give a lot of pills out at one time.  However, it was also my attitude--when the pain stopped, I stopped taking them.  I don't think you should have a problem.  I also don't think you should have to be in pain just because you have had addiction problems in the past.  If you are in