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by OxyDout, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
I have been clean for a little while now, however, I have tended to take things here and there, it hasn't led to becoming re-addicted, AS OF YET ANYWAY........ I'm curious as to how long I would have to take something in order to become addicted, I heard 3 days.  Also, do I have to take a lot to become re-addicted or could I get addicted to taking just a small amount daily.  I used to take about 200mg of oxycontin a day.  Any input would be appreciated.  I'm asking now because just recently I took a few vics for 3 days straight, I didn't become re-addicted, nor did I feel any withdrawal, but it scared the hell out of me.......... thanks,



GWH
Member Comments (110)

by percsnomas, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: Laura
Good job on the tapering to this point...you're almost to 50% of your normal amount...THAT'S HUGE.

I also tapered off percs, with the help of a co-worker...just felt i was more accountable; plus it felt real good when i returned some of my allotted meds.

I've just entered my third month off...and feeling very good.

Stay the course Laura, I'm/we're pulling for you!!!!!!!!!!!

by mrmichael67, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
$1000 is a bargain!

by Witchywoman, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
I didn't pay $1000.00 for my SI nerve root injection. I've got health insurance and it covers it all. Fortunately my insurance is covered 100% by my job.  I know that ultimately I do pay for it 'cause it is considered part of my salary.



It does make me wonder how much this shot would have caused if I had to pay for it out of pocket.  This is a Doc I know well. He works in the same HMO that I work for, and we refer clients back and forth.  He still seemed annoyed that I called, but hell, it is my health I was worried about. It's the same Doc who offered me oxy when I told him I was an addict and asked for bup instead.

He's not a bad guy, he just couldn't accept that a person as 'straight" looking as me could possibly be an addict, even though I did come totally clean with him last summer.



Wierd.



WW

by pon, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: ALL--OFF SUBJECT POST
Hi to all...yes I posted my goodbye note....and I had to come back to say thank you for the posts back, they were wonderful.



Things are going really well for me, my life is back together, sailing smoothly and happily. No hydro, no tears, no pain....lots of smiles.



I won't be actively posting, but I will be reading the board when I can and will try to help as I can...so I'll be out here and hopefully can help if someone needs it.



I know we are not supposed to post e-mail addresses, so I will not post mine, but some of you have it and if you need an ear, please use it.



Copuple of quick notes:



WW, thank you...my love to you too.



Pixi, never posted you because you seemed to be someone who (like me) got most of their strength from answering others questions...I got a lot from your posts too. Thanks, hope you are OK.



DEVA, (are you also a Diva?) thank you for the well wishes...amnio was fine...I will have 3 girls now! Add mom and I have a polo team. Hope things go well for you, LOL.



Alissa, don't know if you are still out there, but if you are...please remember there are people who love you...for who you are...not for who you think you should be. Please take care Spunkmeister...miss you.



DB, (dirt...Debbie...DB hmmm.) Hope you are doing well. You have given back a lot to help others here...you should be proud of that. I hope all works out for you, you deserve it to. Don't be so hard on yourself if you can avoid it.



Hippy, bmac, sean, jess, et al....thank guys...make it OK?



Chezz...well you know.



Jeff...hang in there.



Goldenbear, hope I did not offend you. I was not trying to defend anyone really...just to suggest that this should be a place where we all try to understand and not to judge. Even not to judge those that judge us. I wish you the best, 21+ days is a long way down a very hard road, my congratulations to you on doing so well and your courage. Again, no offense meant, wish you the best, as I do all here.



pon

by Thomas02, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: Laura
Sounds like you're doing quite well with the taper, Laura. I don't know how much Vicodin you have, but try to make the taper as slow as you can. As you get down to 2 or 3 pills a day, slow the taper rate even more. Split the pills, etc. Have you set down a schedule with your husband? As long as you can count on him to give you the agreed upon amount but no more, you should get through this. Have you tossed the house looking for his hiding place yet? That frequently happens. If you know you can't get at them and you can't talk him in to 'earlies,' it lets you relax a bit. Good luck.



Thomas

by Thomas02, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: Witchywoman
Hi, WW. Sorry you're going through this. My epi was just a steroid in the disk area, so I don't know anything about nerve blocks.



So your doc was annoyed? When I went through my back treatment and surgery, I was struck by how blase all the docs were.



You should have a perspective on this: is it just too stressful and draining to 'care' all day when you're dealing with people's pain and fear? I can see where it would be. I'm glad you bugged him, though. Keep him on speed dial just in case. You could give him anger management therapy once your back is fine.



Thomas

by LizzyM, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: Laura
Hey...thanks so much for the well wishes.  I am beside my self right now with fear about tomorrow. I have the shakes right now preety bad..I think because I'm nervous?  My hubby told me that I BETTER never put my family through this again. I totally understand his frustration. I've let him down...I know he's dissapointed in me.  I didn't have this probelm when we met 13 yrs ago. I wish there was someone here right now to talk to..I'm on the verge of tears. Don't get me wrong, he is so supportive to the point that I feel he deserves someone better than me.  I really want my life back.  Reading your post made me feel more positive..I'm going through the motions.  Knowing that you too are a mom and that your husband has to keep your pills from you made me see that I'm not alone. But, I still feel like a loser..how did I end up this way?  What is wrong with me??  I have everything to live for and I screwed up.  My skin keeps breaking out with bumps, like mosquito bites but in the same exact places everytime.  Is my body telling me that I have caused permanent damage?  I know your not a doctor..I'm just basically asking out loud to myself. Please keep me informed on how you do with the tapering.  I won't be here starting tomorrow for about a week or more.  If I could give you my e-mail address I would! ALL OF YOU WILL BE IN MY THOUGHTS!  This forum has helped me so darn much. I want to thank all of you who have taken the time to write to me...it is soooo appreciated!  Laura, Bodymechanic, Jane, and everyone else..thanks for thinking of me. I truely am beside myself with fear.  I hope I haven't caused my body permanent damage.

PEACE!!

by janesays, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: Lizzy
You can't keep beating yourself up over this! You have done the important first step. You have admitted that you have a problem. I am not a 12 stepper but I know that you telling your family about your problem is very important. You have shown courage by telling your daughter the truth. Please don't be so hard on yourself. You are doing what you need to do to clean up. Tomorrow will be here soon and the doctors will help you make it. That's what they are there for. I know you lost a little faith in them when they didn't recognize your withdrawals before but not all doctors are like that. Just be confident and you will make it with the help from those who care. Just because you became addicted to something that your doctor prescribed for you doesn't mean that you are not a good person. You have to pick yourself up and do this not just for your kids and your husband but most of all, do it for yourself! You deserve better!

Good Luck and God Bless



Jane says (I'm gonna kick tomorrow)

by GOD, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: Mariposa
Your change towards using correct grammar is refreshing! Your posts not only LOOK better, but your advice and/or opinions carry far more weight when your writing style matches your intelligence.



You KNOW I wouldn't have given you such a hard time if you hadn't mentioned that fact that you are a free-lance writer!



I also like your choice of "Mariposa" as your new Username on the board.



No hard feelings,

~~~~Jess~~~~



    NM156

by CATUF, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
Hello all:

     Finishing up day 23 here.  I am amazed at how much sharper and clearer the world is.  Just amazed.  



     To be honest, if I could still get that same wonderful feeling I got when I first "found" hydro (or even when I used it on a regular, but still occasional basis) I don't know that I could stay away. But the truth is that I was at the point where more and more and more were doing less and less and less.  Even "day one" of a new batch left me feeling dissapointed with the not-quite-high, but up half the night and unable to eat much.  From then on it was just a matter of having enough so I wouldn't crash . . . but of course I always did crash eventually; aside from the fog of the hydro, the body can only take so long with too little sleep, too little food.



     Skip -- I did make it to the gym yesterday.  It was a very nice boost, but I'm sore as a pig today.



     WW -- hope your leg is returning to normal.



CATUF

by mrmichael67, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: ww
I meant the $1000 was a bargain for him to charge, not for you to pay.  Most people who don't have insurance don't get them.  I hope your feeling comes back.

by bmac, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: GWH
I was off of painkillers for 62 days and then started taking a

slow release capsule twice a day.I don't feel addicted to it like I did when I was taking them for the 'fun' of it,you know.

I did swap to another narcotic but it still feels about the same.

I know if I take it long enough I will have a physical dependance

but as long as I take them as prescribed I will always have a doctor to help me taper then detox.I finally realized the medical

community will help us and will prescribe these evil little pills

we all are addicted to as long as we go by their rules.

I do have pain that only these opiates can relieve in part but

surgery can't fix what ails me.I really believe now that I can let someone else control my narcotic use because for over 20 years I have tried and failed miserably.I hope you can fight the addiction part,the mental part really sux!

                            bmac

by hippy, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: gw
good morning,once you are taking like 2 80 oxy

a day then stop ,your imunuty to vike's and perc's

will be very high, meaning it will feel like you took nothing.

as far as the term readdicted, i don't think it applies here.



he gw  are you living in town up in your neck of the wood.s



peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by groovygirl, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: gwh
I'm going to try using capital letters and correct punctuation, because it irritated SOME people that "I" never capitalized "I".  God knows "I" wouldn't want to offend anyone here.



Anywho...an addict with a habit such as you had dear friend, shouldn't dabble with the devil.  You should stay as far away from opiates as possible.  I think you already know that.  You will become addicted again, even if you take a small amount every day.  Anyone on pain meds, for any length of time, will become physically addicted.  An addict cannot "socially" indulge.  It will lead you nowhere.  



As I've told you many, many times.  The physical part of quitting drugs is the easiest part.  Staying off is much harder, and you need support to succeed.  As much as you hate meetings, why don't you try to go to at least one (different) meeting each day for one week.  In that time, you might just find one in which you feel comfortable.  After talking with a fellow member on the phone yesterday, I think I will do the same.  It has worked for many, many others - I feel that I just have to find the right one.



What do you have to lose?  You have the time to devote to going to the gym to have a healthy body right?  You probably can find an hour in each day to help you get cleaned up...good luck.



a.k.a. groovygirl

by OxyDout, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: mariposa??
whats up with the name?? I'm not addicted to anything right now, as a matter of fact I feel great, I have been clean for a while, it was more or less a general question, seeing as I have taken stuff in the past.  You may believe this or not, but I don't have the mental cravings, I'm so sick of drugs its ridiculous, I don't need anything, no methadone, no bup, no vics/percs, I just don't need it.  I asked the question in fear that I will sometime in the future be around them or ask for them..........as for now, I'm living my life sober and I'm loving it, i love the fact that I don't have to do any maintenance, that i can just go about my life without taking anything, I FINALLY HAVE MY SEX DRIVE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! god that was a big problem in the past.



As far as meetings........ I know they work for other people, and I have gone to 1 or 2, but ITS NOT MY THING, I don't like them, i find them to be no help what so ever.  I can understand that others might find them beneficial, but it doesn't work for me.  



Do you go to meetings??

by OxyDout, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: hippee
I live right outside of town, I live about 5 minutes outside Boston, you coming up here sometime soon?  if so let me know, i would love to get together.

by hippy, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: gw and groovy
hey guys  took me a min, to get who was there,

big letter or small,

good morning to you both.



yea like groovy said getting clean

is the easy part.

it's growing up that is hard



peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by OxyDout, Oct 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: hippee/groovy
I have to disagree, what works for others doesn't mean it will work for me, I KNOW meetings are my thing, and I KNOW they won't help.  I can appreciate that they do wonders for others, but I'm not taking that route.  Where do you plan on going to meetings?

by hippy