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How long?

by twindad, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
Hello everyone, yesterday I tookmy last percoset. I was able to sleep OK last night, but I feel no energy this morning. How long will it take before I can wake up? I had been taking the percs for 2 years. I was up as high as 20 a day. I am glad I quit, but feel like ****.
Member Comments (77)

by groovygirl, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: twindad
Hi and welcome.  I don't remember seeing any posts from you, but I haven't spent a lot of time here lately.



I'm sorry to tell you, but it's going to be awhile before you feel human again.  I was taking about the same amount of meds as you, and I tried detoxing many, many times by tapering, cold turkey the "recipe" etc.  I couldn't do it...finally I started taping Buprenex...I've been on it since April.  No withdrawal symptoms whatsoever, however, now I'm hooked on bup.  Most people have a much easier time getting off the bup than I have, but I also have chronic pain issues.  I have tapered the bup so that I am taking approx 1 amp per day...as opposed to 6.   I can live with that for awhile I guess, but eventually I'd like to be off it totally.



You should really try "Thomas' recipe" if you are going the cold turkey route.  I've heard it works great if done correctly...I didn't give it the chance to work.  When I get off the bup entirely, I will use it.



Anyhow, you are probably going to feel worse before you feel better.  Stock up on Immodium and perhaps get something to help you sleep.  Drinking lots of fluid, especially Gatorade, really helps too...you DON'T want to get dehydrated.



Anyhow, do a search on this site for the "recipe" - you can get everything at your local vitamin store...GNC or whatever.



Keep writing, and try to stay positive...I know, easier said than done right?

by twindad, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: Mariposa
I have chronic pain issues as well due to a broken back in an auto accident some 20 years ago. My new doc tapered me down starting a six 10/650 per day, then 4 per week until my last script was this weekend of 6 pills. Of course, I took them right away because if they are there, I will use them. I don't have the shakey body anymore, just feel weak and tired. I know this will be it for me this time. I nearly lost what means most to me, my 4 year old twin boy and girl.

by groovygirl, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: twindad
Well, you sound determined...that's a good thing.  Plus, you have your priorities straight...another good thing.  Now, you just have to deal with feeling like **** for awhile.  It seems that for most people, they really don't feel "normal" again for about a month.  



The lethargy is the thing that seems to drag on the longest...and the depression.  Has your doc suggested antidepressants?  Has he/she given you anything for sleep or anxiety?  There are things you can take to ease the discomfort...you don't have to be in total misery.  



If you've tapered very slowly, it should be somewhat easier.  I've never known anyone to get thru it quickly...actually one person here claims to feel great after a few days, but I find that VERY hard to believe.  It took you a long time to get to this point, so it makes sense that it will take awhile to get back to feeling good, right?



Just think, in a few weeks you will be able to enjoy your precious babies without feeling like you're in a fog...congratulations on quitting.  You're doing the BEST thing for yourself and your family.

by CATUF, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: Twindad
How long you feel bad and how bad you feel will likely depend on your level of use prior to quitting.  If you went from your highest use to zero it will be worse and longer than if you tapered down to minimal use.  Even if it's bad, you should only feel like pure hell for 3 or 4 days and that's really no more than a bad case of the flu.  For me, the worst part was the Restless Leg Syndrome (aka RLS) and the general feeling of wanting to crawl out of your skin.  It helps if you can take a few days off work -- at least this is not a bad time of the year to be calling in with the flu.



In either event, you'll want to check out the Thomas Recipe, which is availble on this site and which helps alot with the worst parts of WD.  Also, start getting exercise as soon as you feel half way up to it.



I'm on day 29 and have been feeling pretty much back to normal for a while.  I'm not exercising enough yet, but I'm eating, sleeping and sticking with he Recipe.



I feel better than I have in a LONG time -- maybe not as good as those first few highs back in the old days when I thought I had found a miracle, but WAY better than during all that time I chased, but never quit caught, that feeling.  Better than how I feel physically, however, is the mental and I guess I'd have to say spiritual changes: I'm back in touch (as opposed to removed) with my family and the world; and I no longer feel like a fraud (who might be unmasked at any moment).



Good luck to you.

by Tucker's Pam, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
Just a word of warning on the Percocets.  I just had a client die from the overdose of the acetominophen from the Percs.  If you are still taking a lot of them, take Percodan or talk to your doc about this.  It was enough for me to quit all narcotics but now I am in so much pain, searching for a middle ground.  I am trying everything, neurontin (gross!!), buckets of Ibuprofen, Aspirin, etc.  Going to the doc today and hope there is something they can do. Nothing really works like the narcotic tho.

I detoxed (in the hospital!! do NOT try this at home)from daily 160 mg of oxycontin on September 4th so no more of that **** but what else can I do to treat the pain but not be so risky?  I am at the point where I am ready to ask for a light narcotic but I am so scared of the addiction/withdrawal.

by twindad, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
Thanks all for your words of encouragement. I weaned down pretty slow,so fortunately for me, I don't feel "sick". Although, I can't quit yawning and little bit of shakes. I am still in a lot of pain in my back, but I know now, I am an Addict and therefore do not have the ability to moderate myself when it comes to Percoset! I would rather live in pain the rest of my life, then to not be daddy. The sounds of those words alone, make the pain not so bad.

by nena65, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: twindad
I wish I could answer your question, but I am just nowstarting my detox from Vicodin.  This is day 2 without them and I pretty much feel like ****.  I did buy the ingredients for Thomas' recipe and it seems to be helping (I was able to drive my son to school anyway).  I actually have detoxed the violent way once, but I didn't know I was going through withdrawal.  I ran out of pills, couldn't find anymore and several days later was in the emergency room.  It didn't hit me until later that I was having WD.  You know what has helped the last two days....an ice pack.  I don't know about you but from my neck up, I get soooo hot.  I have been sleeping as much as possible and keeping my ice pack with me.     Hang in there......

by twindad, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: Nena65
You know, it might sound a little crazy, but I feel like for myself, it has to be somewhat uncomfortable. Because it feels like a reminder that there are consequences from doing what I did and letting my life spiral out of control. In all reality, I have a pretty good life. I have a Master's Degree in Counseling, a cushy job working for the State, we own a nice homeand I have a beautiful wife and two great kids. I guess addition knows no boundries!

by ChiTownGirl, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: Twindad
Any chance you can get some Clonidine from your doctor?  Believe me it will help with the anxiety.  Welcome to the forum, I don't think Ive ever seen your name posted!   ChiTownGirl.

by Sugarbeens, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: twindad
A Master's in Counseling!  Now someone who I can relate too, like Witchywoman.  Me, I have a Master's in Social Work, same thing , huh!  Working on getting my license as a LCSW.  I never took drugs or drank much, but, when I turned 40 my new pain management doc gave me vics.  All my back pain and emotional pain went away. I even left my husband of 20 years and felt like I could do anything.  I go back and forth now thinking did I leave because of the pills, or was I really so unhappy when my last child left home, that I had to get out. My marriage wasn't perfect, not by a long shot, but, Iwas determined to make it work.  I no longer wanted to deal with it.  So now I am 48 and alone!! Do you want to be alone???  If you have a family, do everything you can do to keep it together, unless, the relationship causes you emotional pain.  I am going into my monthly withdrawal.  It is not too bad, probably because I do it every month.  I do not pay for illegal drugs, I take what my doc gives me and then when I run out, I make myself suffer.  If you are very determined and want a beautiful life with your family, then stay clean if you can.  All it really takes from what I can see is to really want something more than the drugs. Me I am alone, but am very active in my grown childrens lives.  They are my world.  I was always a mother first, didn't know anything else, and had a horrid childhood.  Then my kids got married/or moved away.  I fell in love with another LCSW, even though I knew he was not relationship material.  Just one of those real charmers.  We are still friends, but, if I could go back, I probably would have stayed in my marriage. I have never told this story here before, but, after seeing your post and your anquish, I had to reach out to you.  Remember what we learned in school, we have both weaknesses and strengths!  Reach for the strengths you have to save yourself and your children.  I will be thinking of you.  Love to all on the forum.

by suzieneedshelp, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: Nena
Congratulations!  You go gurl!  I am so proud of you!   I envy your courage.

Suzie

by nena65, Oct 28, 2002 12:00AM
To: twindad/sugarbeens
Addiction has no boundaries....having Masters degrees (I wasn't planning on bringing my education to the forum, but mine is in Behavioral Sciences) makes us no different.  It doesn't mean we have more to lose, because those who dropped out of high school still have children to lose, family to lose and above all, self dignity to lose.  In fact, through my work I have met some poverty ridden mothers who were great parents and through my own life, I have met people who live in 250,000 dollar houses who were horrible parents, so I personally don't think that having material possessions or diplomas will help us beat this addiction.  What will help is a strong desire to quit and feel good about our lives whether we are having an extraordinary day or a shitty day.  I want to know that if I have a bad day, that I at least faced it without being under the influence of drugs and that I can strive to make tomorrow better without the pills.



I agree with you twindad, I also didn't want my WD to go too smoothly as I might think it is okay just to relapse temporarily......