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Happy Halloween - Open Forum

by groovygirl, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
Happy Halloween everyone - Have a great day and night.
Member Comments (56)

by suzieneedshelp, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
Back to ya Mariposa and everyone else!  I'm just getting along still with my stadol.  Had a really bad headache earlier this week. the kind where u feel nausea nd just want to cut off your head.

Take care,

Suzie

by hippy, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
donj't ya just love the great pumkin story

with linus

by Witchywoman, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
Yay! Happy Halloween everyone.

It's actually my New Years, in my religion. We call it Samhain. It is a time where we reflect on death and rebirth, honor our ancestors, and take an inventory of how we have lived our lives thus far.  There's more to it, but that is the basic gist.



I'm at work, on the most sacred of religious holidays. I wish that my religion was acknowledged, and that I could get the day off to really do the spiritual work that the day encourages.  But, I'll do it this evening, with a group of close spiritual friends.



This year we are also doing a Pagan clothing drive, trick or treating around the neighborhoods for clothes and warm blankets that we are then going to donate to the local battered women's shelter.



The snake sheds it skin and is reborn! (Snakes are seen as sacred sympbols of rebirth in my tradition)



I'm not trying to convernt anyone, just explain what my traditions are this time of year.  



take care everyone,

WW

by PING, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: witchywoman
goodmorning. hope you don't mind me asking about your tradrition

( spelling) maybe this is the wrong place to be asking, so i will give you my e-mail address. thank you. and everyone have a pain free day. lee.



                             ***@****

by Witchywoman, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: sfcplt
I don't mind you asking at all, but why don't you email me if you have specific questions? I'm happy to answer questions, but don't want to proselytize.  I have respect for all faiths, and believe that love is the tenet that links us.



If you have questions, email me at ***@****

love,

WW

by Bodymechanic, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: WitchWoman
I am very interested in your experience with deprenyl.  How did it work for you.  How much do you take. Are there side effects or drug interactions.  



I have ordered some online and it should be here in a week or two. I am willing to try anything that will treat the chronic pain, depression and obsession to use drugs.



Thanks

by twindad, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: Mariposa/Everyone
Hello Mariposa, I wanted to tell you that at first, I was a little ticked at you for assuming the reason why I talked about my education seeing as how you only knew me through a couple of Posts. However, I later realized that my emotions are a little on edge and it really doesn't matter what others may think of my intentions as long as I am OK with them. Anyway, today is my 4th day Percoset free, and I feel like **** :-) I am going to stay the course regardless, but found myself thinking that a percoset would sure make me feel better right about now. I decided instead to Post. I am using 800mg Motrin to help. I refuse to use more! My body still feels like I have a lot of restless enery to the point of gitters. I felt a little better in the morning because I went for a workout on the lifecycle and worked up a good sweat. It is about 1:00 here in sunny California, and I feel like I just want to go home to bed and sleep it away. But, since I have 4 year old twins who are stoked about the holiday, gotta do the daddy thing and take them out. Anyway, happy Halloween to all. TD

by Witchywoman, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: Bodymechanic
Hi Bodymechanic,

I'm happy to share my experience with deprenyl.

First of all, I do hope you ordered the liquid, as there is a major difference in quality between the tablets and the liquid.



I currently use just one drop a day, for maintenance, anti-aging, and protection of the substantia nigra, the part of the brain that produces dopamine.  A standard antidepression dose of deprenyl is 5 to 10 drops (one drop is one mg).  I didn't know about dep when I detoxed, but I would guess that it would help a lot, given that our dopamine production is lessened with opiate abuse and deprenyl forces the body to produce more dopamine.



What I've noticed with regular deprenyl use is a subtle, but clear sense of alertness and well being, as well as quite an increase in my sex drive. If you look at the research on the IAS website, you'll see that rats given deprenyl lived 50 % longer.  It currently is prescribed only as an antiparkinson's drug, but does have antidepressant uses as well as plain ol' enhancing of well being.  I have also found that it helps my memory and concentration.  My husband takes it as well and remarks on the same effects. The effects are subtle, but present.



I hope that helps!



WW

by hellbent, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: twindad..
Well, a perc or three probably WOULD make you feel alot better, for awhile at least. Looking back 6mos to my detox, I realize that I could have called a pill delivery in at anytime, and I was horribly sick for almost a month after stopping cold. I am not sure how I made it, but I do remember realizing that any relief I would have gotten was going to be brief, and I would have just ended up in the same situation I had been in for 3 years. Namely, utterly addicted and hopeless.



Another thing I did was to immediately shut my brain off and think about something else, whenever the urge to use occurred. If I entertain the thought of using oxycontin or vikes or whatever, I am in trouble. As soon as I start fantasizing about how good I am going to feel or start planning a drug collection, I am probably already gone. I just don't have any willpower when it comes to that stuff and I have learned to automatically think about something else, anything else.

by twindad, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: Hellbent/Everyone
I guess this is the place for total honesty, so I am goingto say that I have been cheating a little bit (no such thing huh?) I have since the age of 18, and I am 42 now, occasionally smoked a little weed to help with my pain. It allows me to work out, to live a fwe hours of my life pain free. I have always believed in the medical use of pot to treat such things as chronic pain. My wife doesn't know. If she did, boy would I be in for it! I do it away from the house and never around my kids!!! I guess I still feel a little like a scumbag, but I am not sure whether I want to quit, especially right now.

by hellbent, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
Yea, this is the place for honesty, not to be confused with condemnation. I've got friends who shoot alcohol into their veins and heroin up their ass. I don't think the fact that you smoke a little weed is going to be a big deal to anyone here.



Anyway, if you are trying to be truly drug free, pot can be a problem. I've never been able to just smoke pot and do nothing else. I made it several months doing that once, then drank vodka and went into a blackout.



For now, however, I suggest you kick the opiates, and if smoking a doob helps you feel better while you are withdrawing, go ahead.

by Thomas02, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: Birthday Boy
Get this: An usually, I was totally out of drugs. I’d just scarfed up all the Valiums and Lortabs, so it was out of the question to hit the doc up for more. So I thought, perhaps I could scan some Fioricet to tide me over. I called the pharmacy tech (an inexperienced girl at a Mom and POP store, thank god). In stead of looking up the Fioricet, she called up my 90 5mg Valiums and told me I had no refills on it, and that she’d have to fax the doctor. Since I knew I’d just got 90 Vals 2 says ago from the same doctor, I didn’t want to press my luck. So I repeated that that I needed the Fioricet ASAP.



So, to make a delightful story short, I show up at the pharmacy and the pharmacy tech hands me my bag, charged me and bids me a good day. It wasn’t until I got into the car that I realized that she’d filled 90 5mg Valiums. Thank the gods whomever they may be!!!! What I birthday present, indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



My Karma is firing on all cylinders today! HaaaZaaaaa!



Thomas

by Bodymechanic, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: WitchWoman
I got the tablets.  I have read the ads for the liquid form but every single study I have read mentions Jumex by name. Is there really a difference or is this just hype?



Peace

by GOD, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: THomas02
I guess I'd better say it......



"This forum is NOT the place to talk about drugs in a good way.... And you should be ashamed of (&#&#!#@!"



Nevermind... HAPPY BIRTHDAY you lucky scoundrel!



hehe--



~~~~Jess~~~~

by taeme, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
Does anyone know those online "drug store" one's that say you can order meds without a script, or with an over the phone consult, or even a phone consult with a nurse home visit.  Are these true, do they work, are they reliable.  Can you be sure what you are getting.  I wouldn't know the difference between a fraud and the real thing.  Has anyone had experience with these.  Can you really get what you need this way? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

by Bodymechanic, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: Taeme
There are many and without too much trouble you will find one. I strongly recommend that you stay away from the online pharmacies. They are the easiest drug connection you can ever get. Imagine having your drugs delivered to your door and perfectly legal.  You could easily get yourself in trouble.  Read the back post from Sean who played the online pharmacy game.



Peace

by taeme, Oct 31, 2002 12:00AM
To: Bodymechanic
What do you mean by the back post, where can I find this post from sean.  I see and I understand I am reserved in my decision whether or not to seek such a site.  If I do indeed decide to seek medical advice, meds this direction I do not want to be ripped off, I don't want to try by trial and error I can afford this, can someone recommend which one(s) I should try. I am in a State where kidney stones