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any one new to the fourm,and lurking / open fourm

by hippy, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
i was wondering if there was anyone new to the fourm

who might be lurking and reading, i wanted to welcome

anyone who is just reading the post, and if you had any

questions we could answer regarding getting off opiates

such as vikes, percs, hydro, oxy, lorcet. it's all the

same  in the end. they all steal your life from ya,

they promise everything then  damm you with and emptiness,

ans unhappiness.





peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Member Comments (63)

by Bodymechanic, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: Welcome Newbee
Welcome to anyone that is new. Kick, share or just chat. You will find a wealth of collective knowlege here that you could never get from a doctor, councellor, shrink, 12 step group or anywhere else for that matter.  Share anything you like and remember you are totally anonymous and will not be judged unless you act like a jerk which is extremely rare on this forum.



Peace

by curious1998, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: Everyone - Soma addict
Hi to everyone, I tried to post a new question on this but could not get it to go thru.  I need help with my Soma addiction, going thru a detox center is not an option.  Afraid to tell my doctor, since I have been getting thru the internet.  I have bad back and migraines, I have kicked Vics, and many other things, but I can't seem to shake this monkey off my back.  From my heart, any advice would be so appreciated. Take Care.



curious1998

by athena, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: Hipee
Great idea to post an invite to lurkers.Thats just the type of encouragement people need to post.I hope your doing well.Stay sweet......



pixi

by Bodymechanic, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: curious
I don't understand.  From everything I have ever read Soma is not addicting.  But just because drug manufactures call medicine is not addictive that doesnt mean it isnt.  Still you are the first person who I have ever heard who is addicted to soma.

by tuxwan, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
Yes I just found this site thru ask jeeves. I'm trying to find out how to wean myself down from 60mg of metadone a day for a cancer surgery, been on it for almost four months and scared to death to come off, I'm a hope to die alchoholic too, so I don't want to play at it, but I also don't want to end up sick all the time. To make it worse I'm hypertensive and take .2mg of clonodine, twice a day to keep my blood pressure down. I don't know what to expect, so any help would sure be appreciated.

by The Golden Slipper, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: Curious1998
Could you write back and let me know the particulars.  How many Soma you take daily and for how long you have been taking it.



I posed the question last week about this drug because a doctor wanted to prescribe it for me and got responses that led me to believe it was addictive.  My sister was on it for 2 years and I know she told me she had some trouble when she stopped taking it.



If you could give me somemore detail I will ask my sister about her experience.  



Hang in there

Golden Slipper

by hippy, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: soma
i am an addict, i have abused anthing i have ever taken.

i had to take soma for severe back spasams, i became

addicted to it mentally for about a year , it is  a drug you can only take so much of before you end up not being able to walk or talk. they build up in your system and when you take them day after day you think you have only taken 3 or 4 for a day,

but you still have in your system from the day before.

it is a drug that reminded me of qualudes, so i guess i was chaseing a something that does not exist. i stopped taken them when i flipped over my truck, i took 3 or 4 on a sat morning.

went out  everything was fine they hit me and i was like a someone who drank a bottle of wiskey in one minute.

once i stopped there was depression but i do not remember

painfull withdrawl.

it was mental. so i guess an anti -depression med would help.

like prosac.

i think the L-tyrosine and b6 would do the trick for depression

also, .

by hippy, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: tuxwan
there are people here at the fourm who know the way to taper from methadone , some mathamatical fourmula.

im sure some one will post it.

it has been posted before many times

by chrisby, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
Hi everyone I've been reading the forum addictively for the last 2 weeks Thanks for the invitation. It has been helping me out quite a bit lately. 2 years ago I got hooked on vics than percs oxys. Was told to got to a methadone clinic so I did and started on 25 mgs a year later I was up to 50 why they let you do this I don't know. I weened myself back down to 25 in the last to months and got stuck there. After alot of research I discoverd buprenex and got lucky enough to find a docter to detox on it. (For $1000.) It was a little shacky changing over but now I feel fine. I was just wondering if anybody else has tried this route. and if so how hard was it to get off the buprenex. I have disc problems so I don't like clonidine for withdrawls because it doesn't help with any back pain.

           This forum is great i've read some others and this one sounds like people that want to be drug free...

               Thanks Chrisby

by curious1998, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
Thank you to everyone who responded to my Soma problem.  I started taking it when I hurt my back, I have a very addictive personality, and should have never started it.  I have to take 3 or 4 to get any relief from my back pain now. (at a time) when I have tried to go off, the w/d's are similar to coming off Vics.  Restless legs, trips to the bathroom etc.  I'm having more of a problem coming off these then the Vic's.  I thank all of you for your non-judging responses to my problem, this is by far the most caring forum I have ever seen.  By the way, do I find the L-tyrosine and b6 at the vitamin store?  



Thanks again so very much.

curious

by Bodymechanic, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: Curious
Clonidine is the drug of choice for detox regardless of the substance.  Tyrosine is available in the health food store. If you have an addictive personality I suggest that you investigate deprenyl.  It boosts your natural production of dopamine. Low dopamine levels are a very common problem in the addict.  Low dopamine levels may be the reason that some people find it hard to stop using drugs permanantly. Deprenyl reduces the chance of senility in old age.  Animal studies indicate the use of deprenyl on a regular basis increases lifespan by 20% and more.

by puma, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: Tuxwan and hippee




(Tuxan),



Since you had cancer recently, I can not answer your question about the Methadone as I have never used it.



I would suggest however that if you are a die hard alcoholic, that you detox from that first. The Methadone will make the withdrawal somewhat less as will the blood pressure med Clonodine. When a hard alcoholic withdraws your blood pressure will shoot through the roof and if you have seizures, stroke, heart attack, or delirium tremens(DT'S), you may be in for serious trouble, severe suffering and even death possible. You will need to detox through a hospital setting since you are a die hard alkie and also had cancer and are on Methadone. That is a complicated mix.



Don't worry, the sickness from alcohol withdrawal will go away with treatment in about a week to one month. After a week it is mostly cravings for a drink. After a month you may not even want to look at a bottle. Then address the Methadone issue. Ask an addiction doctor first for they would know best whether to detox both at the same time or one and then the other.



I hope this helps, thanks for responding and keep posting and let us know how you are doing. Take care and God Bless.



(Hippee), Glad to see you back on the board and inviting new guests. I hope you are doing well. Take care.



Chathan.......wildcat

by DIRTBAG, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
Yep its me, Hello everybody, Hippee you post the best questions, and must be the guy that says Hi I'm Hippee a grateful recovering addict, you always come across like you care so much. This is going to be a long post, I've on day 5 no hydro, I'm so excited, today on day five I just down to one nap a little achy and small amounts of sweats.  Because your post is to newcomers lurking and I have just C/T I think it is a good time to share my recent experience. Day one I threw up once and hurt all day but because I'm on vacation I just been able to cruz, I woke up all night sweating and twitching, the twitching is what I hate the most, Day 2 mostly the same, Day 3 better and Day 4 I jumped up and took a shower, when I got out I knew something had changed. I always take baths because my body hurts and I lay there and wait for my dope to kick in to get moving everyday I'm like that, I just jumped right up like I waS NORMAL, after I realized this I really moved forward in my head and I slept the best yet last night.  Day 5 today the evil thoughts are creeping in, oh I'll just get a couple when I get home to catch up, I can handle it now, if I take one I'm sunk, I will never stop at one. I was so lucky to be able to take this trip to kick, I was so bad at tapering and could'nt function sick at home.  thomas said lock yourself up for a week and rest and take baths and that is the key.  There are many ways to kick but if you can get away and keep your secret its a blessing.  Thank you everyone for the help and encouragement to get me here I've just begun to post I'll never stop. In these threads lies a part of me that only can be shared here.  hey Jess, pixi

by DIRTBAG, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: mrstracy
Where are you I want to read your happy posts, you really helped me I've been thinking about you all week.  You humbled me mrstracy, lets share. Post soon and I hope your safe and well. Its me Dirtbag/Peagravel and now longhauler. Peace

by puma, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: Longhauler


(Longhauler),



Congradulations on day-5!!!!! GREAT JOB. Keep up the good work resisting those temptations. I don't know how true it is, but I read somewhere, that once you are past the acute withdrawal, the cravings only last about ten minutes and if you can distract yourself in anyway then it fades for awhile. I don't know if that is true so don't quote me on it.LOL Anyhow good luck and glad to read you are doing so well.



Chatahan.........wildcat

by DIRTBAG, Nov 05, 2002 12:00AM
To: chatahan
Thank you, I bet your right its like that for smoking