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Mike
Thx Phil and Cindy for your efforts to improve the site!
Take care!
Suzie
Thank you!!! (Cindy and Phil) for your efforts to keep this
forum running smoothly and cleanly for the most part. I made a suggestion for the surveyors to check a particular forum which knows very well how to weed out the pranksters and remove them permanently.
It is a shame you had to go to all this trouble but I won't let it stop me from coming back, as the scroll button is a good tool that we all might need to start using instead of feeding the pranksters thirst for negative attention.
Good luck and God Bless you for keeping this important wealth of information flow going.
Chatahan......wildcat
Gem xx
Is ANYONE else's posts disappearing? Or their screen names not showing in the response lists? I've had 2 posts vaporize. There was no profanity, insults or discourteous comments in either of them.
Maybe the forum software only lists "X" number of posts per thread or something. I don't know.
The only reason I bring this up is not because I want to read my own BS, It's because if it is happening to my posts, who's posts have I missed? OK. I'm through whining.
Thanks,
Mike
You seem alot better.Good for you.
Bill
I don't know if it makes any sense, but this is the 11th day off methadone for me and my body is tingling all over with a good share of fatigue to go with it. Also, the skin (especially the face) feels pretty flush. Funky.
Anyway, I am taking clonidine. .1mg 3X a day and was told I can go to 4 if needed. For helping me sleep the doc gave me Ambien 10mg, 1X at night for sleep. The clonidine helps for about 2 hours, then it's benefit is gone. So, I just veg out and wait for noon to take the next one. As for the Ambien, is 10mg a lightweight dose? Because it sure seems like it. I have never had a problem with any benzos and have very old scripts of em that go unused. It just ain't my bag. I am assuming Ambien is kind of like a benzo, right? Think it's safe to call the doc and ask for something a skosh stronger (like 15mg instead of 10mg of Ambien) or since it's Day 11, just hang tight?
All I've been doing is just sitting here, taking 2 30 min walks a day, hot showers and typing on the keyboard. I thought about making a run to San Antonio to get an Ibanez Axe and Amp to get back to how I use to play and I'd have something to take my mind off this bs, but when I got in the car and started heading that way, the damn highway department narrowed the lanes on me and I couldn't keep from riding the edge of the bar ditch, so I turned around and came back. :)
Not jonesing or anything, just a little pissed that today is worse than yesterday. Guess that's the ride though. Who signed me up for this ride? Oh... I remember, I did.
Thanks for the help bud.
Mike
I have taken Ambien before but it didn't really make me sleepy at all.Playing took my mind off of it for awhile also.But I play in a band so I had others to jam with.I play bass and playing alone sux.I used clonidine and phenobarb for withdrawals
for 8 days.I still felt like hell after that but no creepies at all.It sounds like brainfog has set in.Do you toke at all?If so That helped me some.It gets better.
Bill
You asked if I toke. Well, I did about 25 years ago, but when I did, I didn't mellow out like my wife does. I freaked. Maybe it was dusted, I don't know. Odd thing it was. It sort of pissed me off that I couldn't feel the same things my buds were. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know. Hell.. I haven't even had any alcohol in years. Mainly because Methadone and alcohol don't make for a good combo. Least for me they didn't. Seemed like the alcohol sucked the Methadone outta my system and I start DTing by 3pm.
No... I just took Methadone for years trying to hide from the withdrawals. Thing is, you can't hide from something riding on your back. But in another couple weeks (hopefully), I'm gonna yank that monkey off my back and pound him into the pavement.
Like you said, Jamming by yourself does kind of suck, but I want to get back to playing like I use to, which wasn't too bad. So, when I can make it, I'm opting for the Satriani Ibanez with a little 60 Watt amp and start trying to get my speed back up to an unembarrassing level again. I'm not going to expect too much success until the WD's ease up a little, but at least I'm working toward the goal on both points and it will help keep my mind off this day to day thing.
Thanks for all your insight and help. Rock on brother.
Mike
We truly appreciate your help with this! Hopefully by early January we'll be rolling out a new and vastly improved website, thanks to the help of Georgetown University.
Wishing you all the best,
Cindy & Phil
Methadone was the only painkiller that worked well for me. Got me out of a wheelchair and onto a bicycle in 2 weeks when I started it. Back then I was up to 100 mg a day at one point, then dropped to the 80 mg I was currently at for the past few months. The clinic, of course, doesn't take my insurance. We were paying out of pocket the $140.00 a month it cost. Now we just had a drastic cut in pay and cannot afford it. I do still have the insurance though that will pay for other drugs to help me thru this stage. (Not that they seem to be helping much.)
I'm upping the dose later today when I wake up (my daughter is going to go pick up and fill the script for me) of what the doc put me on for my pain, drug I don't know much about called Duragesic and I'm going up from 50 mg patch to 75 mg. I tried using 2 50 mg. patches the other day, but then when I used the Vicodin ES for the Crohn's pain, it's too much and I felt like I was going to O.D. My husband was an LPN for 13 yrs. when he was younger and he also thought it best I take it off. The doc agreed when I called him that evening to discuss what I was feeling. It's probably just fear he said, but he doesn't want me on more than I feel I can handle as the mental stress is hard enough coming off this damned (hope I can use that word here) Methadone.
Besides the Duragesic I am also taking the Vicodin ES every 6 hrs as needed (never had a prob getting off that even after years of being on it in the past so have no fear of it when I will start to detox from it later), Donnatal 2 tabs a day to keep my IBS under control, Lorazepam 1 mg I am allowed 3 a day but I take 2 at bedtime instead of what I am allowed to take, Trazodone 100 mg. at bedtime to help me sleep (LOL, I took all that and slept 2 hours then again later and made it a whole 6). I do have an older script for Elavil 25 mg which used to knock me out like a light when I tried it so I never took it again, dug it out tonight and took one a few hours ago, not sleepy yet.
Besides the WD I am also now into a full Crohn's flare .. such fun when I can't walk and the insurance company is going to take up to 4 weeks to get me a wheelchair. At least this time it will be mine to keep forever, not a rental like the state got me. If I ever feel warm again I may be able to move a little better, but not until that point. Oh yeah, I do have prednisone here if I get bad enough with the flare that I need to take some. It has nasty withdrawls too and I really do NOT wanna go thru those again.
We are between pays and out of money, our last 20 is going to fill this last script for me for the patches. I sure hope they do help me some. To those who would suggest in-patient, I have already tried that and the place my insurance company uses could NOT help me. They told me to stay on the Methadone, but that is no longer an option due to finances. So here I sit starting into day 4 of this pure HELL. I am mentally and physically exhausted and I've always been the strong one all my life. Methadone got the better of me. OOOOhhhh how I wish the doctors had *never* suggested it to me. If anyone is thinking of going on Methadone, PLEASE re-consider your options. Wean off the drug you are taking, don't start on the 'done, it will take ahold of you and getting off of it is almost impossible. I think the only reason I will make it is because I do want off of it so badly and I know also we do not have the money to get me more.
I'm mentally too tired to write more. I'm sorry I posted back on this thread as I did, but I wanted to post to both of you as you came off the 'done too and you maybe can give me an idea what I am facing from here on out. It wouldn't let me start a new thread, said there were too many already today. Thanks for hearing me out. I will check back here later today. I have no idea how long I will sleep, I am hoping when I go out it will be for 10 to 12 hours, which is my norm.
MrsRat
I'm not gonna sugar coat it. You are in for about 10 days of rough DT, "BUT", I can promise you that Day 12 is much better than the first week. I don't feel "Good", but after being on a methadone clinic's idea of helping for over 10 years, I am not sure what good is. All I know, is that the further I get from that ****, the better I feel. There is NO WAY I would ever go back. You're gonna need to hang strong for a week. I'm walking a tightrope here in telling you that, because I don't want to freak you out, nor do I want to lie to you. Since you've dealt with Chrons, then I figured you don't like people sugar coating anyway. So here was what happened to me over the last 10 days. It is different for all people, but there is a common ground it seems from those of us that have had to beat this particular monkey.
Day 1 through 3, is a total Steven King Mind Bender. This is the point that I came here and found GREAT people providing advice that I feel compelled to provide here.
a. Look in earlier posts for the "Thomas Recipe"
b. Eat 1 banana twice a day (Potassium load helps with Legs)
c. 1000 Mg of Vitamin C
d. B- Complex
e. Multi Vitamin
f. Anti Oxidant
g. 3 HOT showers a day. (REALLY helps for crawling skin)
(This gem was generously provided by hippie and it WORKS)
h. You need to keep moving if you can. Laying there will