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PLEASE DON'T USE UP QUESTIONS FOR COMMENTS!!!

by CGTMHI, Dec 14, 2002 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
Hi everyone,



Once again we must ask that you only post QUESTIONS that are appropriate for Dr. Horvath to answer!  Of the top 5 supposed "questions" currently on the forum - only ONE requires an answer from Dr. Horvath.  There are people who are VERY frustrated because they can never get their REAL QUESTIONS posted in the forum.



ANYTHING THAT IS NOT A MEDICAL QUESTION NEEDS TO BE PUT IN AS A COMMENT.



We know you'll all respect their need for help in the future.



Best wishes,

Cindy



Member Comments (78)

by Rex1, Dec 14, 2002 12:00AM
To: Cindy, Forum ATH
Cindy,



Sorry. I got the info I need. Can you remove my question so others can post theirs?



(p.s. It seems as though he hasn't been answering questions for a while. The last one I see is the on the 10th, and his answer was two sentences long.)



Nevertheless, I'll leave the Q spost open for questions to him.



I am appreciative that you guys are here...



Rex

by Bodymechanic, Dec 14, 2002 12:00AM
To: Everyone Cindy
I hate to be contrary once again. There was a time when I would have agreed with you.  I had considered writing this same post.  Time has proven however, that these doctors don't answer questions.  "See your doctor" or "read other posts" are not the kind of answers desparate addicts need. Most are in a critical period in their lives.  Many simply can't or won't go to their doctors.  Their questions are almost always answered by fellow board members. Many of the questions are highly technical and require a good amount of research to answer correctly.  The research is invariably done by a board member. I know because I am one of the many people who answer these difficult questions.



My point is, I am happy there is an expert on board to answer questions. Go ahead an answer them.  Look at any tread, there are many questions. Pick a hard one and answer it.



No disrespect meant here. This is just how it is.



Peace

by lisabet, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
To: Cindy
Sorry, Cindy, I agree with Bodymechanic. The doctors comments (on the addiction forum, anyway) is pretty useless. I have found more help and information from the participants on this forum, than I've ever had from any doctor, online or personal. (I do commend the doctor on the Neurology forum, however, who really gave me a lot of insight about the pain and numbness in my feet).  I guess what it boils down to is no one is more insightful about drug addiction than an addict, recovering or otherwise. I rely heavily on the advise of BM - Thomas - Bmac, etc., who has learned the life lessons of really living this demon called addiction.  Some are recovered, some not, but all their posts are so valuable to me, because they come from years and years of experience.  Then there are the recovering people like hippee or Rex1 who come forward also with their experiences who never fail to inspire me. Rex's recent post about his back pain may seem off-course to others, but most of us have gotten hooked on opiates or whatever because of pain in the first place. I think it was a very legitimate post, 'cause when we finally kick the drug dependency, we still have to deal with the pain that got us hooked in the first place.  I appreciate your forum Cindy; it is slowly helping me get my life back, which is why I felt I needed to post this; hopefully you understand. Respectfully, Lisabet

by MethMan, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
Interesting.

Rex felt the need to say he was "sorry" for receiving helpful information.  The good doctor must have emailed him the help he needed. Maybe it was the help received from board members instead.



Peace,

Mike

by hippy, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
good morning too all.

i find just reading the post of others helpful.

i have always been a big supporter of community,

my experence is that an addict alone  is in bad company.

haveing people in our lives is so very important.

just reading a post with a little humor sometimes go's a long

way in making the day more bearable.

one thing about getting clean is getting feelings like

empathy and compassion back in our daily lives.

while i was caught up in the addiction of the pills

the only feelings i think i felt were fear and dread.

it's nice to come to the fourms and feel some joy and encouragement.



peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Jennibean, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
Why is everyone trying to get digs in at the Dr and the forum. We know the rules and the only reason any of us have eachother is because of this forum. So let's just follow the rules and quit

complaining. The questions are for people who need the Dr, he cannot search through all of the comments to find the real questions. I think it is damn kind of him to come here at all to help any of us. If you are not happy with his answers all of the time well just know that there isn't always one solid answer to a question, also if he does not know the answer I would rather have him refer to another post on the board. And if it is a medical question that he feels needs to be answered by your own Dr then he is right in telling you to ask your Dr. One thing about these forums is that the Dr's cannot do hands on examination of the people here which makes it difficult to answer every individual medical question. We are also all very different and he would be a fool to just put any old answer down to a qestion he may not be able to answer without seeing us or having more information. I'm sorry I just got really annoyed at some of these posts today, It all comes from working in management and knowing that you just cannot make everybody happy. People complain constantly. To hear some of you implying that the Dr has not helped and that it was the people here who helped is irritating to me because you should look at the Dr's title and experience and ask appropriate questions if your question is not one that can be answered by him then post it under the commenst for the people here to help and leave the space for questions that are appropriate for this Dr's experience. I really enjoy this forum in the short time I have been here but I have never heard so much complaining in my life! I personally think though that Rex's question was appropriate for the Dr to answer and I am not sure that was even one of the questions they were reffering to. Anyway sorry to be such a downer I am still irritated from my husbands Christmas party, the company (phone company)doesn't do anything so his boss was nice enough to spend his own money and provide dinner for 150 people in his department. I was so shocked to hear everyone complaining that the drinks were not free or that the party was lame. For crying out loud he didn't have to do anything at all. Just as this Dr does not have to take time out of his day to answer any of these questions. He does it to help if and when he can! On that note I hope this didn't sound harsh because it was not meant to. I have no place really to tell any of you what to do but I do have a right to express my feelings. For today let's all try to be greatful that we have anybody willing to help us and a place we can come together and share our experiences and most of all our fears and frustrations and have people that actually understand because if most of you are like me you don't have anybody in you real world that actually does understand. I have become the misfit poor little lost soul surrounded by all the poeple who managed to stay on the right path who are probably just sitting there judging me as we speak.

PEACE!

Jen

by lisabet, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
To: vicojen
Jen, I think you've overreacted a little to this thread. All everyone was doing was giving our civilized opinions; I don't think anyone had any intention of being rude or ungrateful.  Of course you're entitled to your opinion, as do I.  Regards, Lisabet

by teeitup, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
I hate to ask this under this thread but I need some guidance and y'all are the ones I've come to trust.



10 days ago when I decided to clean up I also confronted a long time friend who I knew was in trouble. She thanked me for doing it. I told her I wanted her to tell her best friend and husband (I know well) by the weekend or I would! She has contacted the friend who in turn called and thanked me but told me she has not told her husband.



Should I stick to my guns and tell her husband Monday or give her more time or butt out all together. I know she cannot clean up on her own!



Thank you all, you've all helped me in some way no matter the comment!

by Rex1, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
To: Everyone - end of thread
So I started this thread, and it should end here.



Thanks for all the comments.



To summarize: I know that this forum is valuable to me, but costs me nothing. It does, however, cost them (Cindy, ATH) money to run, to which I have not contributed to (yet).



I should ask questions like this is a comment, and not as a main topic.



Thanks to all who repsonded...



Death to this thread.....



Rex



by lisabet, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
To: teeitup
I think I'd let her be the one to decide to tell him. Sounds like she made a first step by telling her friend, so I think I'd leave the ball in her court. Ultimately, she has to be the one to decide whether she wants to quit or not, no one can force her hand.  Just be there for her; she'll probably need you.  Love/Peace, Lisabet

by minime, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
Um sorry for butting in but if you can never post a question how are you supposed to ever get an answer except for to ask it where comments are supposed to go?

by lisabet, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
To: minime
Hi there (love your user name); guessing you're an Austin Powers fan. The best thing to do is just break a thread near the top and ask your question. We all do it all the time. Just be sure to do it on a top thread; that way most people will see it. Are you a new poster?  Welcome! There's so many great people here that is more than happy to answer any questions you have. If you have a drug problem, you've come to the right place. I've learned so much in the past couple of months, mostly just by reading others posts.  Go thru the archives - check out posts by Bodymechanic, hippee, thomas (who supplies the "recipe" that has helped so many strugglers, including myself), bmac, southernbell, suzieneedshelp, Rex1 and so many others.  I've come to realize they are real people like you and I, dealing with the same problems, and life as an addict isn't nearly as lonely when you realize this.  (FYI-I've been fairly successful in tapering hydros from 12 to 5 or 6 a day, and have pretty much stayed out of the Jack Daniels bottle for the last couple of weeks)...I never thought I could come as far as I have.  Please post and don't be embarrassed to ask anything. Love/Peace, Lisabet  :)

by Rex1, Dec 15, 2002 12:00AM
To: Lisabet
On you on track for Jan 1st?



Rex

by Jennibean, Dec 16, 2002 12:00AM
To: Lisabet, Rex
I know I was overeacting, that is what I tried to say in there as well that my feelings on this are stemming from other things going on in my life so it just struck a nerve that was already struck, that's all. I usually don't post anything that could be construde as confrontational or controversal it's not usually my style so that is how I know I am not myself lately. I am struggling right now like so many other's here. And that is also why I said it was just my opinion because I was just thinking out loud today and I guess the thing is I always try to be greatful for all of the things I have in my life as well as the people in my life and right now I am having a hard time doing that because I hear other people in my life who don't have any major problems right now complaining about **** that doesn't matter but you know what? I cannot wait until my life is so good again that all I have to complain about is trivial ****. Anyway I'm tired from acting like a baby all day, I feel so tense, like a tight string that is about to break. Didn't mean to subject you all to it.



Rex, you have been so motivational to me and because of you I started weaning, you had faith in me and everyone here and it gave me strength. Just wanted to thank you. Also I replied in a long post to everyone who responded to me the other day but I don't see it anywhere. So I wanted to say thanks to all who responded and helped. Your words mean so much to me! If I am crabby here for a while that is actually a good sign that I am doing what I am supposed to be doing. I will try to keep my irritability off this board. I am actually a really nice person or at least I was and hope to be again soon.



Jen







by Rex1, Dec 16, 2002 12:00AM
To: Vicojen
Jen,



You are the inspiration here - not me. If you and Lisabet and the others on the taper challenge, can pull off this taper to zero thing, you will have taken the torch from me, that was passed to me by the veterans (BodyM,Methman, Hippee, etc).



Make it happen - its so much better when you are on this side of the wall! Yeah, my back still hurts, but hey, what else is new?



Your journey may be into becoming a nice person again. Mine is to become the anti-wimp I used be (tough as nails, as a matter of fact). Thats one thing the Vikes did to me, turned me from a fairly strong person into one constantly complaining about pain. What did people in this world do before drugs?



I am going to find out...please join me...



I know you will win this thing. Get tough, mean, nasty, ugly, and refuse to give in. When you taper and succeed, realize the victory to yourself over and over.



Most of all - thank God for His Grace. It comes in its most potent form around Christmas time for a reason...



Love to you guys...stay strong!



Rex

by HLM, Dec 16, 2002 12:00AM
I was looking at all the comments and questions on this forum...none of it can answer my question, and it is really sad. i have aproblem but not a serious one, if there was someone that had a sreious problem and needed help, they couldn't get it here because of all the **** on here! No one can post a question because there is no room! Can we do something about it?

by southernbelle, Dec 16, 2002 12:00AM
To: HLM, All
I couldn't find your question....it's probably just me and it's somewhere listed below.  Ask it again in your thread, you'll get some support.  It's hard to get the "official" question spot.  But we are all here to help each other.  You will find support and love here.  Stick around.  

Peace and love to everybody, really!

by southernbelle, Dec 16, 2002 12:00AM
To: everybody, all
hope you all had a good weekend.  i'm doing the best i can.  and even thought that's not worth a darn, that's still the most i can do.  at least that's what my daddy used to tell me when i was little...."if you're doing the best you can do, then you're okay."  I'm in a good deal of pain, but nothing i can't handle right now.  It's still the mental game with me.  My psychiatrist and her medicine seem to be helping.  I have noticed the anxiety lessening.  If I can get a handle on that, then I know it will be okay. Because the anxiety is a *****!  I meet with her again today.

Peace and love to all of you, really!  I'm thinking about everybody here.

by Oxyclean, Dec 16, 2002 12:00AM
Hi! I am new here and was wondering how do you post a question if you can't post it here? I have read a lot of great info here and trust you people over the doctors because we have experenced this first hand. I have been taking Oxy since March and have been tapering it down. I take 20 in the morning, 20 in the afternoon and 10 at night. I will be cutting down tomorrow to 10 in the afternoon. I was taking 160 at a time a few months back. Any advice on the taper when I get to the 10, 10 and 10? My doctor really doesn't know what she is doing with this and is basicly leaving it up to me. Thank you all for your time!

by shubunkin, Dec 16, 2002 12:00AM
I was wondering if any of you have experience with Xanax or Benzo's. I have tapered myself down to 1 mg a day. Is there really that much of a risk of sezures with these thing? I have been on them not quite a year. Thanks