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Smoking pot and can it kill you?

by crash 76, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
I was wondering if smoking pot can lead to death after long term use?

Also, is it as bad as smoking cigarettes?
Member Comments (32)

by alchemist, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
To: crash
I don't smoke pot but I've heard that it can be worse than smoking tobacco since one tends to inhale deeper and hold it in longer than cigarette smoke

by Thomas02, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
To: crash
... only if you get into my stash.

by Rex1, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
To: Merry Christmas everyone!!!
Merry Christmas to all my pals here at MedHelp.



Thanks especially to Cindy and Dr. Horvath for incurring the expense (and the headaches)here. I hope our struggles are of value to you in some way.



Will not be spending Christmas eve or day here, so just wanted to say "hang tough everyone"! May God's Greatest Gift touch you this season.



Rex



by southernbelle, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
To: thomas
you are too funny!

by southernbelle, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
Just in case anybody is checking in....

I wish everybody a Merry Christmas.  It's so sad, but right now, the best Christmas present I could get would be a bottle of percocet.  Isn't that sad/sick/morbid?  Lord help me....

Anyway, I just wanted to let everybody know I love you and believe in you.  You aren't alone at all.  You are each so special and wonderful.  I hope that doesn't sound too corny, because I mean it.  I love each of you.

by hippy, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
To: southern belle
hey belle i love you to

merry christnas too yoo and yours .

i hope you are feeligng well.

life is good, alway nice to see you posting.

yes thomas is quiet the entertainer with all his experence.

and humor, he is a gift to us all.

all  his posting for this month is like a  christmas gift.

i fing joy in the simple things in life ,like thomas's post

or a good chapter in a book, a funny joke. a good movie.

or just a smile on a child's face.

im so crazy i just love the sunshine in the morning with a cup of coffee.



peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy/ michael

by whippet, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
To: Thomas
Hey Mister Thomas, just wanted to let you know that i had a real special day today. Not the fun kind though.



I phoned the psychologist like i said i would and told her about my stopping some of my meds and my intentions to also stop the benzos. Managed to get an appointment this morning. When i got to the clinic, surprise...surprise...was also included at the meeting ... the psychiatrist who had started me on these drugs 7 yrs ago.



Well, you can imagine that all i saw were long faces and all i heard was *Do not stop your meds!*. Seemed like an intervention but to keep on drugs instead of stopping them...geezzzzz!



I explained to them that i was feeling much less depressed the last 6 months and that was why i had decided to stop anti-depressants. (Never was suicidal or anything...just real depressed a while back.) These drugs had helped me back then but i feel much stronger inside today.



Never did get the chance to talk about stopping the benzos. They lectured me on how important it was to stay on ALL my precribed drugs and so on. They also said that they would lose thier patient-doctor confidence if i refused to continue drug therapy. Actually i found this meeting so morose that i broke down and cried right there. (I'm usually real good at hiding my feelings.) Didn't feel as strong when i left that office.



The good thing is that they agreed to my suggestion about seeing a therapist twice a week and i will begin mid-january.



Sooooo....ima gonna go see that therapist. I have no intention of getting back on anti-depressants and i also hope to wean myself off the triple dose benzos without their knowledge. I want to be drug free and find out why i so much like the opiate feeling and what it is that i'm am really trying to *fix* with them. (Gonna start tapering my benzos starting january.)



It seems kinda weird. I've got to *pretend* i'm taking drugs and meanwhile, with the aid of a therapist who thinks i'm medicated, try to find out about my inner self and why i like them in the first place. Weird...really...weird.



Maybe i'm crazy, maybe i'm not, maybe i should be nuts...maybe it would help!



Take care Mister Thomas,



Whippet

by drodone420, Dec 24, 2002 12:00AM
like thomas02 said pot can only lead to death if you try to steal mine

















jk just some money would be nice

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: rex1
ya know, Rex1 ole pal, I actually hope you're right about your religious beliefs. Because the God you've depicted so far is a god of love and mercy, and I think we could all do with a little love and mercy from someone with the wherewithall to deliver ...



I hope I didn't repell you by telling you about my Buddhist inclinations. I think -- if man is even capable of apprehending the nature of God -- that different faiths are simply a view of God from different mountain tops. Of course, culture and history are part of it, too. But in essense, I believe that if we're really seeing God, we're all focused on the same God. It simply doesn't make sense that, if the one true creator of the Universe made him/herself known on Earth, it wouldn't absolutely compell everyone's attention the world over. Just different vantage points, that's all. Merry Christmas, my friend!



Thomas

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: Southernbelle
What pathos? A bottle of percs for god's sake? Damn strait that would be one dynamite Christmas present! That stuff will make the glorius sun rise in the dead of night. MMMMMMMMMM. Don't apologize for wanting some percs! Recovery is great, but let's not get carried away. Merry Christmas, Sothernfriend!



Thomas

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: southernbelle
I just read your post mentioning me. You are a sweetheart! Just to know that someone appreciates me enough to post about it convinces me I'm **** something right. You are really too kind, but I'll accept your comments anyway! Who doesn't need some strokes once in a while? Merry Christmas, dear one.



Thomas

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: Whippet
I wouldn't want you to discontinue your drugs right now. Period. Think what withdrawal is going to do to you emotional and intellectual equilibrium. What good is psychotherapy going to do you if you're weired out coming off some drug ... And let's talk about those benzos: wWhat benzo are you talking about? Benzos -- especially Xanax and Ativan -- must be switched to valium, then a gradual tapering program can be undertaken. Xanax and Ativn leave the body fast enough to throw you brain in shock, even petit mal seizures. Take it from me, I had 3 full-blown seizures from abrupt Xanax withdrawal and it's taken me a year to recover. Explore your love or need for opiates first, the, if you still want to, taper off of each drug one at time.

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
sorry about the terrible typing in the last post. I guess four fioricet work pretty well ...



Thomas

by hippy, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: thomas and everyone
merry christmas thomas,

you have me thinking agian, about the god thing

and religion,one of my favorit books on the subject

is aldous huxley's perenial philosphy a book about the beleif

of one god. i also love his doors of perception and heaven and hell.

speaking of phplosphy and religion nietzche was the son of a minister, nietzsche wrote a beautiful book on the passion and death of christ, then went crazy and killed himself writeing

a book on the anti-christ.

well just some thoughts , on to more festev thoughts on this

christmas morn i hope everyone here at the fourm has an enjoyable  day, with famly and freinds

i hope everyone get what they want for christmas.

a pain free and restfull day  would be a nice gift for all.

as far as gifts my wife has given me the bible on cd by a man named mac mclane a man with a sheakspearian voice  truely a joy to listen to.

after being married for 13 years me and my wife have given each other just about everything  over the years. so now i just have to give her time and affection.

one of the sad thing s in my lfe during this day is my one sister

is married to a palistianin  form  jordan and my wife is jewish

this religious difference has put a unhappy wedge between our relation ship. hopefully one day she will look past these

differences. i know i do.



let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me.

to take each moment and lve each moment in perfect harmony.



love ya all hippy

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: Hippee
You mean your sister shuns you because you're not, what? a Moslem? Give me a break. Sounds like her mind's been co-opted by her husband. But ya know, I know and have worked alongside many, many Arab nationals and Arab-Americans, and, guess what? Some of them cried right there in the office on 9/11. I didn't even do that. They were mortified by what had been done in the name of their religion. All the flag burners in the streets of Karachi make the evening news, while all the Arabs that just want to work and raise their families are deemed "just not newsworthy."



It's been said by far more intelligent people than I, but if we perpetrate some sort of pogrom against Arabs and Arab-Americans, we will only be confirming the things Bin Ladin says about our nature and intentions. Kennedy said it best, " ... our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breath the same air, we all cherish our children's future, and we are all mortal."



And about Huxley. I'm still pissed that the real Soma doesn't live up to the Soma in Brave New World. I'm disgruntled!



Thomas



by hippy, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: thomas
my sister and her husband have a problem with my wife

being half jewish, my sons mother was also jewish.

what can i say they act like the problems in israel

are my wifes fault.knowing a little about history

i realize that the arabs are getting the short end of the stick

in the west bank , and that they had there land taken from them back in the 1950's. but i consider myself and famly american.

im sure as you have read ,one of my biggest beleifs is setting aside our differences and coming together as equals for all

people.

besides being a bi-polar nut /active alcoholic/and a rightwing

religious christian nut, my sister beleives america deserved

what we got on 911. so to say the least she is impossible.

her husband is PLO and hates anything that has to do with

israel or jewish people.



to me hate, raceism, and bigotry are acids that destroy

the jar that holds them.

i will continue to be kind and considerate as long as my brotherin law does not touch or hurt my wife or kids.

if that was to happen i would be compled to do a jimmy hoffa

on him, without any remorse at all. my sister knows me and realizes that is not a threat, just reality.



joy to the world   ha ha  ha.  hippy

by hippy, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: hunter thomson
speaking of naked lunch

i looked it up and right under it at amozon .com

was other books to reakd, jack kerouac-on the road

which i remember is being great.

and hunter thomsons books, speaking of him ,

i have freind who is a ski instructor in denver and he lives

next door to hunter thomson on the side of some mountian

and my freind is and useing buddie who stops over to get drunk with hunter who he says is a real nut , who gets loaded



and shoots his guns at the moon.

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: hippee
Wow! Such hatred! Now I understand. Of course, I don't think any of us can truly understand until our own country to taken away from us by force. I don't have any hope that the Israeli/Arab conflict will be resolved in our lifetimes. Would it were otherwise.



Thomas

by Thomas02, Dec 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: Hippee
Of course, you know jack kerouac is famous for writing On The Road in two weeks, on methamphetamine the whole time, and using a teletype role so he wouldn't have to stop writing to feed in sheets of paper. He took the teletype role to New York to try to sell it. The first reviewer said, "This isn't writing. It's typing." But he got it published anyway, the one that made him famous, too.



Also, did you know that once Hunter Thomson signed a copy of his book for a fan by putting a .45 slug through it. Innovative. Cool in a Hunteresque way ...



Thomas