hope things are going well for you and i hope your kneeAnterior cruciate ligament (acl) injury
Anterior knee pain
Bursa of the knee
Dermatitis, herpetiformis on the knee
Knee arthroscopy
Knee arthroscopy - series
Knee cap dislocation
Knee joint replacement
Knee joint replacement prosthesis
Knee pain
Meniscus tears is feeling better this morning.  your question(s) are my thoughts exactly.  what will really cure us?  will we just replace this with something else?  i really believe addictionDrug abuse and dependence is a disease.  i now it takes a choice, but something happens in our brainsAmebic brain abscess
Brain abscess
Brain herniation
Brain surgery
Brain tumor - adults
Brain tumor - children
Metastatic brain tumor
Posterior fossa tumor
Primary brain tumor and we can't control ourselves.  at least i know i can't.  i would love to just be normal.  i know i have an addictive personalityBorderline personality disorder
Histrionic personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorders.  i'm hoping the psychiatrist will help.

thanks for asking about the kneeAnterior cruciate ligament (acl) injury
Anterior knee pain
Bursa of the knee
Dermatitis, herpetiformis on the knee
Knee arthroscopy
Knee arthroscopy - series
Knee cap dislocation
Knee joint replacement
Knee joint replacement prosthesis
Knee pain
Meniscus tears,

it hurts ,pretty normal for this

time of the year, when the weather gets

really coldmy kneeAnterior cruciate ligament (acl) injury
Anterior knee pain
Bursa of the knee
Dermatitis, herpetiformis on the knee
Knee arthroscopy
Knee arthroscopy - series
Knee cap dislocation
Knee joint replacement
Knee joint replacement prosthesis
Knee pain
Meniscus tears's hurt like hell.

last year i had to get a few cortazone shots.

the doc told me to stop kneeling on them

unde any and all circumstances. it worked.

but it took disciplin, one of my many short commings.

any way the painAbdominal pain
Abdominal pain diagnosis
Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources is backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment full throttle.

so i am backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment to ice and advvil, heatBabies and heat rashes
Heat emergencies
Heat rash
Infant heat rash
Tenosynovitis and the wrap..........



anywayin the grand scheme of things life is grand,

i wish all the best for you and yours.





igot the new anne rice book  ,so that will distract me for a

while.

as far as being normal, i can relate to your feelings on the

the subject, i have always felt  that i had to struggle to be average, the problem is we are not average people we are extreemest.  we have the ability to be the best at what ever we choose, and we can point our addictive personalityBorderline personality disorder
Histrionic personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorders in a certian direction and get all kinds of results.

we just have to have the willingness.

another way of putting it is

we need to point our obbsessive personalitiesBorderline personality disorder
Histrionic personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorders in a positive

direction.

we ushally get great results, it's like getting the reigns

on a wild horseHorse chestnut,.

peace  your freind  the H MAN.  HIPPY/

I really appreciated the above post where you asserted that if us addicts would learn to channel our obsessiveObsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, addictive personalityBorderline personality disorder
Histrionic personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorders in a positive direction we could do great things! That has really gave me pause for reflection, and gave my tattered ass self esteem a much needed boost! You're right, we're all capable of great things; sometimes we just need reminded. Thanks, hippee. Always read all your posts, but this one really jumped out at me today; just what I needed to hear. Love and Peace to you - Lisabet

Hey All, Just checking in, I got 6 hrs sleepCentral sleep apnea
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Polysomnography
Sleep last nite for the firstFirst progesterone mc10
First progesterone mc5
First-progesterone vgs 200
First-progesterone vgs 400 time in 20 days, 4 in row, up for 1 then 2 in a row. This is the firstFirst progesterone mc10
First progesterone mc5
First-progesterone vgs 200
First-progesterone vgs 400 good day I have had since day one.  I know the sleepCentral sleep apnea
Drowsiness
Insomnia concerns
Irregular sleep
Irregular sleep-wake syndrome
Isolated sleep paralysis
Narcolepsy
Night terror
Obstructive sleep apnea
Polysomnography
Sleep really helped.



It is funny how my addict mind thinks, I have ran out of valium have a few clonodines left and my vitaminsPernicious anemia
Schilling test
Scurvy
Vitamin a
Vitamin b-12
Vitamin b12 level
Vitamin b3 source
Vitamin b6 benefit
Vitamin c benefit
Vitamin d source
Vitamin e. Now the majorMajor tears
Major-con withdrawls are coming to an end, but since I have become so good at self diagnosis I felt I would need another two weeks worth of vals. I now have to see this addictionoigist instead of my regular dr.  I sat in that waiting room for two hrs after the schedule appointment, I walked out and it caused me to miss my NA meeting. MajorMajor tears
Major-con resentment until I prayed and relized that was a God thing. I do not need valium amymore but any way my disease can substute anything to feed the demon of addictionDrug abuse and dependence, I have got to be on guard.  Went  to a great meeting this morning, had coffee with a good recovering friend for an hour after the meeting.  My wife and kids are out of town until tomorrow,so I did all the laundry, dishes and cleaned up the Christmas stuff, then went to church, which had exactly what I needed to hear and now I pray I can get some more sleepCentral sleep apnea
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Insomnia concerns
Irregular sleep
Irregular sleep-wake syndrome
Isolated sleep paralysis
Narcolepsy
Night terror
Obstructive sleep apnea
Polysomnography
Sleep tonite.  I have gotten more accomplished today than the entire last 20 days.



Thanks again to all who have helped me get through the most horrible WD I have had in 25 years.  I really had my doubts if I could get through it.  To those that are new, there is a lot of caring people here, but you need to post and be truthful where your at cause we have all been there.

Strength and Honor

Greg

Greg - way to go! Your on the road backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment now. Be watchful. It crept up on me but with the help of folks here and God, I fought it off. All things are possible.



Rex

You described - ObsessiveObsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder Compluslive DisorderAdjustment disorder
Anorexia nervosa
Asperger syndrome
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (adhd)
Autism
Autoimmune disorders
Bipolar disorder
Bipolar disorder
Bleeding disorders
Borderline personality disorder
Bulimia - thats me, except the ObsessiveObsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder is overboard in my headHead and face reconstruction
Head injury
Head lice
Indications of head injury
Radial head injury and the compulsive is whatever I can do to eleviate the obsessiveObsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder for as long as I can.  Unfortunately, thru a DR mess up I was intro to hydroHydro par
Hydro-pc ii
Hydro-tussin dhc
Hydro-tussin exp and that became my overboard compulsive part which helped eleviate the obsessiveObsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder part - unfortunately only a short term fix to long time problem.



What funny lives we leadLead poisoning.  Anyway, on the tapper (again) and doing well..about 7 more days till clean.  Then fight the depressionAdolescent depression
Bipolar disorder
Depression
Depression - elderly
Depression - resources
Depression among the elderly
Depression and heart disease
Depression and insomnia
Depression and men
Depression and the menstrual cycle
Depression in children bug. Not that new to me so should be okay.  Just wish I could stay clean for more than 3-6 months.  Then again, being OCDObsessive-compulsive disorder sure makes it a struggle.



Hope you're doig well.  Sounds like you are.  Take care,

your friend, Nod

yo nod , in the narcoticsDrug abuse anonymous basic text

it defines drugChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension addictionDrug abuse and dependence

it says obsession to use drugsChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension is the mentalMental retardation
Mental status tests part,s

it says compulsion to use drugsChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension  is the physicalPhysical activity
Physical exam frequency
Physical examination part,

the thrid part is the spiritual part.

it basicaslly says the disease of addictionDrug abuse and dependence is 3 fold,

mentalMental retardation
Mental status tests , phyical and spiritual.

by writing inventories, we find out who we are, and WHY WE USED,



I KNOW THAT I AM AN  ADDICT, EVEN WHEN I TAKE AWAY THE DRUGChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension'S

I STILL HAVE  PROBLEMS WITH ADDICTIONDrug abuse and dependence

I FIND WHEN I AM CLEAN FROM DRUGSChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension I STIL USE THINGS TO ESCAPE MY OWN LOW SELF ESTEEM AND SELF LOATHING...

THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN MY CLEAN TIME WHERE , WHERE I WAS TOLD BY SOCIETY THAT ALL I HAD TO DO WAS PUT DOWM TH  DRUGSChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE, IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERENCE THAT THIS IS

A LIE. DON'T GET ME WRONG PUTTTING DOWM THE DRUGSChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension IS A VERY GOOD BEGINING. BUT IT IS ONLY THE BEGINIHG OF GETTING BETTER.BEING AN ADDICT, ONCE I PUT DOWN THE DRUGSChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension OUR WORK TWARDS THE ROAD OF RECOVERYRecovery position - series HAS JUST BEGUNN, ONE OF THE NEW FOUND PROBLEMS IS GROWIMG UP.AND GROWINNG UP AND MATUREING CAN BE A *****.

BEING RESPONSABLE FOR OUR ACTIONS IS ANOTHER DIFFICULT TASK.

CHANGE IS A TOUGH THING FOR ADDICTS, WE SPENT YEARS GETTING COMFORETABLE WITH FAMILIAR PAINAbdominal pain
Abdominal pain diagnosis
Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources,SOMEWHERE ALONG THE ROAD OF

LIFE ADDEICTS SEEM TO MISS THE LESSON OF HOW TO BE MATURE AND RESPONSABLE.  WHERE THIS LESSON COMES NATURALNatural tears TO THE NORMAL PERSON, BUT FOR US ADDICTS WE MISSED THE BOAT LIVINGAdvanced care directives OUR TOTOLY SELF CENTERED LIVES.THE FUNNY THING IS MOST OF US ADDICTS THINK

WE ARE FINE, ALL THE WHILE WE LIVE OUR LIVES IN DENIAL.

BREAKING THE CHAINS OF DENIAL, IS  A DIFFICULT TASK.

WE THINK  WE ARE FINE AND WE AREW NOT FINE.WE NEED TO

GET WITH THE TRUTH ABOUT OURSELVES

This staying clean has its rewards, but man it has it's challenges.  I am really grateful and happy that you to did not use.  It s 4 am so sleepCentral sleep apnea
Drowsiness
Insomnia concerns
Irregular sleep
Irregular sleep-wake syndrome
Isolated sleep paralysis
Narcolepsy
Night terror
Obstructive sleep apnea
Polysomnography
Sleep time. Peace Brother

Strength and Honor

ps Have you found and been to a support group yet?

Good morning all,



Great post hippee,  I am now renewing myself with the text you draw some of your wisdom from, I know the rest you speak comes from another old Book and from above.  God bless you brother, I went on my walk with my shepard about 6am, made twiceTwice-a-day as far as I have been able to since I started a 11 days ago.  Then did some weightDifferent types of weight gain
Exercise and weight loss
Height and weight chart
Height/weight chart
Losing weight
Roux-en-y stomach surgery for weight loss
Weight gain - unintentional
Weight loss
Weight loss - unintentional
Weight loss and age training.  I go backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment to work in a week, so I am working on being able to make it through the day.  I can feel the power coming backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment. You know it really is amazing how opiates when you stop them can take all strength and vitality away.  It's the devilsDevil"s claw drugChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension for those of us who are addicts.  I have a new found respect and empathy for those need their pills to live a decent life and be able to control the use.



What has really helped besides the board, I am going to meetings every day, 90 in 90 days as recomended by my old sponser and the text.  The last few days every meeting I have gone to, I feel like finally I am home where I belong with people just like me learning a new way of life without using.



In closing,I have felt like alien, outsider to this world and our society when I hit my teens. I knew at 13 when I smoked my firstFirst progesterone mc10
First progesterone mc5
First-progesterone vgs 200
First-progesterone vgs 400 jointJoint fluid gram stain
Joint pain
Joint swelling
Osteoarthritis I had found something that allowed me to tolerate this crazy,materalistic, war ridden, murderuos planet, not to mention high schoolPreschooler development
Preschooler test
Preschooler test or procedure preparation
School age child development
School age test or procedure preparation
School-age children development that I had been born into.  They worked for sometime, the price of drugChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension use spiritually,morally and the depths we sink to in the final stages were pathetic and evil for me, looking backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment it would have easier to feel like an alien and live life on lifes terms without the drugsChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension.  Now, I look at it as gift to let others know, you do not have to use and there are solutions. Another book, I get a little carried away only because this disease is killing so many people in a slow miserable way. I have found out in the last week 5 guys I knew real well have died in the 4 years I was from NA. 3 of them died clean, the other 2 didn't.

Strength and Honor

Greg

good to see your post'

i just got in from hooking up a cable tv

for blind freind of mine, talk about grateful.

he is so up beat, he works with my wife and fed ex.



ya i can relat to you thoughts on the world from

an addicts view.

when i was with the really bad crew i felt like a good guy

and that i did not belong.

when i hung ot with the really square . jockJock itch type good guys

i felt like a really bad egg, and that i did not fit in there either.



as far as the na basic text, i pretty much know it backwards and

fowards, one of my favorite chapters is the JUST FOR TODAY

CHAPTER.

I  also read relapse amd recoveryRecovery position - series when i firstFirst progesterone mc10
First progesterone mc5
First-progesterone vgs 200
First-progesterone vgs 400 got clean

'becasue it was the only thing i could relate to  after

going in and out of the program for 8 years from 1976 to 1984

ages 16 to 24,

and my sponser used to tell me constant attendence of meetings

was easier then regular.

so being the addict that i am and taking everything to one extreem or the other , i went to meetings everyday for 6 years

in a row in the begining



prace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am still lauaghing over your last line, with respect of course, my goodness everyday for 6 years.  I certainly understand it, had I followed that route I have 11 years, but as we both know today is the most important time to count as clean.   Man, you were an addict, for me I got involved in service work GSR, H&I and of course lots of meetings.  



We should contactContact dermatitis the Guiness Book of World Records, that could be a record breaking and historical amount NA meetings in a row.

We would have to figure out how to keep your anonimty and see if any one has beaten that record.  You should of got a trophy or plaqueArterial plaque build-up
Atherosclerosis
Plaque and tartar on teeth
Plaque buildup in arteries
Progressive build-up of plaque in coronary artery
Psoriasis.  Really you got something even better, a life thats happy, joyous and free.  The prettest girl in philly and A life  and familyBirth control and family planning
Choosing a primary care provider
Ewing’s sarcoma
Family troubles - resources you you never imagined would come to you in this life time.



Speaking for me  NA and recoveryRecovery position - series has given me more than I deserve and Grace has given me such abundance in ways that humanly cannot be explainsd.  For some reason that last line is still making me smile.  Thanks, been short on smiles the last few months.

God Bless

Greg

hey hey hey, whats up how you feel,



life is good, i hpoe the same  goes for you.



i am going over to my new next door neighbor

to a little get to gether , when they ask me why i do not drink

i tell them , when i do drink i break out in hancuffs.



at that point they let it go, this neighbor is the youngest 55

, of all my surrounding neighbors,

they are all so normal ,--definition of a normal person

ONE PERSONALITYBorderline personality disorder
Histrionic personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorders OR LESS,.

ME IM AN ADDICT WHICH MEANS  WHEN I WALK INTO A ROOM  FULL OF

PEOPLE I TRY TO FIGUER OUT WHO THEY WANT ME TO BE.



ANYWAY GOT TO RUN  TALK TO YA WHEN I GET BACKBack pain - low
Back strain treatment.



PEACE

Great thread once again! Man i feel so honored to have found this site and you people as well as the other forum.  AS for us addicts, well i am definitely obsessiveObsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder compulsive and it can overwelm my life.  Aren't there some drugsChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension (NONNARCOTIC) that help OCDObsessive-compulsive disorder?  Actaully wut i have foudn is that you addicts are most deep introspective mature people.  I do not agree that you alAls - resources
Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis
Animal bites
Bell's palsy
Cerebral palsy
Cerebral palsy - resources
Genital sores - female
Genital sores - male
Indigestion
Marine animal stings or bites
Parkinson’s disease are not mature.  Wut is mature anyway?  WE love to have fun and that is a good thing.  Never stop playing that is wut i say!  You show  great knowledge and wisdom.  It is thru the bad times that we learn.  n  Thew struggles of our souls. Our depth of loneliness and efforts to fill tha t empty space with sumfin, drugsChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
Drug abuse
Drug abuse and dependence
Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension were a mere  bandaid for a deeper need in our souls.              

Peace and love esp to my hippster!

Suzie