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Also, have you considered the in patient or out patient concept?
I hate to see you in his much pain. Life is hell standing on the edge of the diving board - I can promise you that. Yes, I did experience intense anxiety, which is all but gone now. Just some lingering back pain which I am struggling with, but working through. Nothing was worse though, than that mental pain - nothing in my entire life compares to it!
It's decision time for you, Belle, IMO. You definitely can't stay in this place for much longer, right?
Seek help from your docs, and try the Bup. or some other detox-assisting drug.
I will continue to pray for you.
God Bless,
Rex
I agree it is time to take a step either fess up to the doc or go for the detox. It is a very difficult step to take but you will feel some relief once it has happened. I am a barbituate addict and have been clean since the end of November. I got to the same point you are talking about. I was terrified all the time of running out and worrying about how to get more. I felt like a hamster on a habitrail, it just went on and on. I too feared the withdrawal and was concerned about seizures because barbituate withdrawal can be dangerous.
I finally fessed up to one doctor (I was getting pills from 5 doctors all of whom didn't know about the others) who put me on a slow taper which I followed and then I went to see an addictionologist who helped me to get off of the pills and put me on a medication to help with anxiety. It is called neurontin and is widely used with barbituate addiction because it is an anti-seizure med. It has helped me to stay calm.
I still have many days where I have cravings but I try to keep it at one day at a time. I also do attend 2 12-step meetings per week, I know that is not for everyone but I do find it comforting and have met people there who also use pills along with drinking.
There are other programs such as Smart Recovery that do work for alot of people. I also have a counselor who I talk to every week.
I will be praying for you
Take Care
Golden Slipper
I know I dont know you (sorta feel like I do after reading this board for the last several weeks) but I think you need to fess up anyway. It sounds like you are in a bad place (I know all too well ~ been there, done that ~ doing it again!) and I can tell you from experience it wont get any better.
It is scary, no doubt. I feel and know your fear. But its only gonna get worse. The sooner you do something to get yourself off for good, the better off you will be.
If you can swing a 30 day rehab, go for it. If not, what about a detox with a little rehab ~ about a week to 10 days? Be creative about why you are gone with your job (like some of the others said on one of your other threads) but please realize this is your LIFE here. I know how scary the feeling of not being able to function with out those little devils can be ~ that is where I am right now. I know, I really do.
Email me if you want: ***@****
Your sister in addiction ~
LA
If yopu can go to inpatient detox, if your life situation will allow...do it. Then you are sure to have the right people you need to help...
I will tell you this...I WAS very scared like you are, but what I was most scared of (in hindsight) was that I would not be able to quit...after I made it through the first 4 days of w/d the fear and anxiety level droped a lot and slowly drifted away...for me by about day 17 completeley. Your Dr can give you med to help with the anxiety...I didn't use any, so I may have had it worse than I needed to.
prayers,
pon
The folks on the board here can probably help you more if you tell us more...why are you stopping the meds when you have chronic severe pain? how much are you taking? how long?
Is going to your Dr for help an option? Wd is tough, but it can be made easier with help from your Dr, the right meds, and most of all by posting here. By talking here you can know you aren't alone...lots of us have been where you are, lots of folks understand and will help.
prayers,
pon
For one, general practitioners must be seeing like 60 patients and day -- my pain management specialist probably sees 10 if I were to guess.
Secondly, a pain management specialist is just that -- a specialist and by default knows a lot about pain, and in my case the things that surround pain, which were addiction and detox!
Finally, in my humble opinion, I think specialists have a narrower but much more intensive skill set focused around pain, and at least in my experience were just flat out better doctors. They listened a lot more, they are more sympathetic, it was just like they understood and I have been to three of them over the last three years. Each and every one of them blew my regular doctor out of water! I swear I could hear angels singing when I got an appointment with my latest pain management Dr. He partnered with me if you know what I mean.
(WARNING: the BIG DISADVANTAGE is that they dispense medication much more liberally -- you ask for it - you get it. Don't let that burn you, but also do not let it dissuade you.)
If I were standing in your shoes right now, what I might try doing is the following. Find out who in your medical group in is either an addictiononlogist or a pain management specialist, and demand that your general Dr. refer you to them. Because you do not want to wait the month it will take for the referral, then call this Dr. and pay for one appointment out-of-pocket- get in to see them - tell them it's an emergency and that the referral paperwork is soon to be completed ("should be any day now"). When you get into see this specialist, lay every single detail out on the table -- everything!
Once into see this specialist, ask him about the buprenex that body mechanic has been talking to us about. But let this specialist help you decide which detox program is best. Whatever you decide, we will be here.
Rex
I know the pain you have been in the last month. Would cold turkey be much worse? I mean, on a pain threshold chart scale of 1 to 100, is there really a big difference between 87 and 91 ?
God's Grace to you...
Rex
My self-esteem crumbles with each attempt to "QUIT" and I sense how truly out of control I am. I am in the clutches of the enemy, and the enemy is clearly myself. But after 20 years of opiates,herion,cocaine,alcohol. etc. There is deliverance, but it's not found in a bottle, or a doctor. It's found deep inside your soul and from the help that only comes from above!
All you need to do is ask.
Tracy
From my experience though, you have to know when that window opens to go cold turkey. If you feel a little better for the most part of a day, try it, go for it.
Then at least you will still have some meds if it gets way to hard. I got myself to .5 tablets of Norco 3x daily for about a week, then cut the cord.
I am at day 35 now,