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by Jessinda, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
Good Morning,

So glad I have found this place. WOW, really never knew so many people are like me and trust me, I would not wish addiction on anyone, but am glad to know, I'm not the only one! My name is Jessinda, I'm 36 and have been an addict for three years on lorcet 10/650 and have been of it for 24 hours again!!!! I have tried many times to kick the habit with NO success what so ever! I come here in hopes to get support and help out when I can. I spent most of yesterday crying my eyes out and just being soooo depressed I thought, I want to die now!!!! I'm sure some of you here have felt that way. Of course, I'm still here and still alive. Well, I guess that's all for now. I look forward to hearing from you and getting input on how to stay clean if it's possible??? Is it???? Jessinda Thanks for reading
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by pax, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
To: jessinda
Jessinda, sounds like you need to visit your family doc and come clean with what you are doing and your goal and chances are he will help. i used Ativan and a clonodine patch and I am coming up on my 3rd week barring a 1day slip with norco. If you read my post you will see I was coming off a much greater quantity than you are so hopefully your recovery(withdrawal) will be much shorter and less painful that my 2 weeks of (no fun!!! ) Good luck to you in your quest to get clean,you are on the right track...one day at a time. Soon you will be free again and a hell of alot happier not to be tied to the leash we call opiates!

Best of luck...pax

by pepsi4, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
Hi all.  Sorry to break in.  After bouncing up and down, trying to quit, tapering, etc., I've finally just quit.  Granted, it's only been about 36 hours, but I really don't feel that bad.  I really had to force myself to go for a a walk earlier, and really have to force myself to eat and take vitamins, but I also am keeping as busy as possible.  I am realy anxious about tonight (being able to sleep), but I do have a bit of valium.  I also have a bunch of flexeril -- will this help WDs at all (restlessness, etc)?  I'd rather use that than valium.  Also, if I take the flexeril (10mg) and it doesn't work, can I take valium (5-10mg) also? Would be nice to know, but I don't have that info handy.  Thanks to all in advance ....

by hippy, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
To: jescinda
hey there,

my name is michael

this fourm has been a great help and support to me

in the last 15 months.

it was here that i found out was happening to me

by m abusing 15 vikes or perc's a day.

when i got  here i was  in the dark about the consequences

of abusing these meds.

i started to read all the post and find out why i could

not just quit with out , depression and lack of energy,

every time i tried to kick on my own, each time i tred i failed.

when i came here i found out what was going on and why.

what i could do about it was the most important info.

it was suggested that i get on the thomas's receipe and start to taper down as best i could , which was not to good.

so i quit cold turkey, and started taking the badly needed vitamine 's my body was in need of, by taking all the pills

i had depleted my body of almost all nutreints.

i took b-6

a, c and e

calsium magnisum

l-tyrosine 500 mg 5 a day in the morning with the two 100mg b-6.

there is more to the receipe. it is posted.

the 1st week is hell but after that it gets better and better.

week one the restless leg and body is very painfull.

sleeping is  hard to come by week 1 and it is suggested to take some small amonts of valume in week on for sleep.

5htp is also good for sleep and depression.

there are different approches to this cold turkey  way of getting

clean, but as bad as we may feel in the begining it is doable.

sever depression is normal when we quit, we cry at the drop of a hat.the l-tyrosine helped me a lot with this and the lack of energy.

hot baths at nite are recomended, lots of water, and exersize.

post any questions and read as much of the fourm as you can.

peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy.

by hippy, Apr 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: thomas recipe


l-tyrosine(500mg caps) 5 to 8 a day week 1  2o3 a day weeks after

b-6 100mg caps

a strong multi vitamine

vitamins  A/C/and e

zinc/ phosphorus / copper/

calsium- magnesium

valium for sleep week 1 and 2

imodium for the runs in week 1

the imodium is important because the runs deplete us of all

nutrients, and the runs cause dehydration and make the

withdrawls a lot more painfull , in the area of restless leg and body which make the night s in week 1 very difficult.

hot baths at night help to releive the body aches in week 1 and 2.



also things that help in the cold turkey detox is lots of green veggies and bannas,

also lots of water  or gator aid  for lost electrolites due to the runs.

5htp is another  supplement that people have had sucess with

for depression and taking 4 of them help with sleep.

also benadryl has helped some sleep in week one.

by Percalot, Apr 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: Everyone who's done Thomas's recipe recipe
Here I go again, back on the opiate cycle.  I thought that 7.5 months of incarceration would have helped me go back on the straight and narrow but this monster is a lot greater than I thought and my tolerance is already is getting to a level which is going to require a detox.  I can't say exactly how much I've used,  To sum it up -In the past 6 weeks I've done 70 DIlaudids(k-4s) injected, several xanax and klonopin (Ozzy Osbourne's new drug of choice by the way- gotta laugh), a bunch of 10 mg methadone pills, lortab 10's and recently started taking percs again along with a fentanyl patch(25mg).  Unfortunately I live in an area where there is no methadone clinic or any kind of real out or in-patient therapy program for addicts.  I've cold turkied before and it's not a n experience I wish to repeat.  I also have a friend who wants to detox as well.  Input please.  I would greatly appriciate it.

                                Cheers,

                                       percalot

by sundara, Apr 21, 2003 12:00AM
To: percalot and everyone
sounds like you need some help to say the least. . . i was a try and try by myself girl for a while, not successful. . . and while it is my understanding that there are not many rapid detox clinic around they are available, i went through i program call project strait, i had a medically assisted detox at home, and then had an 7 week implant put in  . . . my husband thought it was pretty pricey $1400 total with implant,,,,but compared to what we were spending on drugs - you do the math. . . . go on your favorite search engine and look up "nalrexone" . . that's the name of the drugs - there were many links. . . i am 13 days clean and am using the thomas recipe and doing not bad . .. . not great - mind you - but not bad . . . .i had to be clean 7 days before they would give me the implant (which can have side effects as well - that's still got me alittle nervous) . . on that 7th day when i went to the clinic there were people who had flown or drove from all over the country - this particular place is in Troy, Michigan called Project Straight . . .My husband was using as well, he went cold turkey this week . . . didn't want to spend the money on himself . . . watching him withdrawl is horrible . . .going to try to get him to do the recipe . . or call the clinic - he is in day 3 (the worst) . . . .my detox consisted of basically being knocked out for 4 days using 4 different types of drugs - the trick is you MUST HAVE A CAREGIVER TO ADMINISTER THE MEDS. . . NOT BY YOUR SELF. . .i was blessed enough that my girlfriend and husband took shifts i basically slept for 3 days(yes he was still using) .. we have two small kids and someone has to be in some kind of shape to parent . . . .all i can say is as of this moment i am not craving or in pain . . .i promised to at least try NA . . and have a schedule . . . my goal today is to get to a meeting and hopefully help my husband . . . .good luck and blessings to all trying to get clean . . . . .

by AmberHunter, Apr 21, 2003 12:00AM
sundra, good luck to you and your husband... i hope you both go to NA meetings. i have vast experience with NA and had even started three NA groups at one time (the groups are still going, it was ME who quit going!)



i relapsed six years ago after 8 years clean... getting clean again has been the hardest thing i have ever done. all the "not yets" i had in my 8 years clean became true for me... i can't begin to tell you how this has effected my children...



after a heroin overdose a few days before christmas and a bad case of pancreatitis a week later i ended up in the hospital until jan. 15th... i have been clean and sober ever since, almost 4 months now...



i just can't believe how good it is to wake up in the morning and not have to worry about whether or not i had a "wake-up" or not, or would i be getting sleep, or would this new doc prescribe for me, or........... you get the picture...



i am not going to meetings but am staying spiritually connected in other ways and it is working so far. i believe that if you become honest and willing to let go of drugs and alcohol there is nothing that will stop you... i don't have any reservations today, maybe i will tomorrow but i will deal with that tomorrow.



it is wonderful to be alive~!



amber

by sundara, Apr 21, 2003 12:00AM
AMEN BROTHER

by NEW ORLEANS LADY, Apr 21, 2003 12:00AM
To: Jessinda/Everyone
Dear heart I know exactly how you feel!--I think I'm the relapse Queen!-But it's exactly like the forum doc has stated--you have to really be ready to quit--This past week I came very close to losing the man (my husband) that i adore due to those demon pills! I was taking 12-14 hydrocodone per day!--Pure and simple insanity--Soooo a choice had to be made! Was I to continue down this road of hell (how many pills did I have-How could I get more-What pharmacy would I use?--The anxiety I experienced everytime my stash got low What would happen if it every came out how many pills I was taking?)--Pretty crazy/paranoia behavior for a 48 yr. old professional woman married to a physician!--Anyway I want my life back and I am willing to experience these 5-7 days of being very uncomfortable to do it! And you can do it to with the help of this forum and the wonderful people here offering support--I'm posting alot today since I am in the throes of withdrawal and everyone seems to be ok with it--Its keeping me sane!  Goof luck Peace Prayers, N.O. Lady-AKA Mystere

by no!more!, Apr 21, 2003 12:00AM
hey everyone looking to finally get my life back but i am curious about one thing i take 20 to 25 tylenol 3 a day and i am wondering how bad that is when i try to quit i get really sick and i would like someone to tell me how bad that is  would really appreciate it thanks

by Jessinda, Apr 21, 2003 12:00AM
Hippi,New orleans Lady and everyone thanks for the input. Third day clean and though, I've done this before and think, three day's big deal let's see if you go and get the pills tomorrow. I'm the hardest person on myself, and do the worst thinking of myself. I know I should be proud of the fact that it's been three day's, but I think, I've done three day's, weeks at a time clean and yet I always go back. My thoughts latly have been, how did this happen???? Why do some people get hooked on drugs, or whatever and others don't ever get hooked. Does this addiction thing run in family's???? I have heard that you need to fine what is or caused the addiction. Is that true? Does it help to know and help to keep you clean? I just don't get it cause never ever did I think I would become and addict. I had a pretty crapy child hood, but the one thing I was always proud of is that I didn't use substance to cover my pain or my abuse up. Now 36 years old three years addict and I truly don't get it why I let this get out of hand. Today is Monday, and yes the w/d's are a pain in the @ss, and all I want to do is just stop the withdraws and I know all I have to do is drop a couple pills and I will be OK for that moment. Oh man, I'm a mess Please Help Jessinda

by RStew, Apr 22, 2003 12:00AM
To: no!more!
Hi no!more!, my name is Rob. First of all let me stress to you that Tylenol 3's other active ingredient is Aceteminophin (probably didn't spell that correctly but who cares!) :-) and it is very bad for your liver at the doses that you are talking about. I am not a doctor but I am certain the doctor or anyone else in this forum would tell you the same thing.



Now, as far as your question goes. "How bad will it be?" It's very VERY uncomfortable. But it's not impossible. Your body will begin to feel as if you are coming down with a terrible flu. Your eyes will water, you will sneeze constantly, your nose will run...actually everything will RUN if you get my drift! Your legs and your arms will be jittery as if they have a mind of their own. And many people (including myself) have had feelings of depression and hoplessness.



I'm not telling you this to scare you, just to prepare you. These feelings can last a while. But if you are willing to see your doctor and tell him what is going on, he can give you medication that can take about 70% of this garbage away. I just hit my 5th week clean. It hasn't been a picnic but it is so worth having my life back. WON'T YOU JOIN ME?



All my best. Rob