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oxycotin detox and methadone maitnance
by hippy, Apr 21, 2003 12:00AM
i have a neice who is 19 and has been hooked on oxycotin
for about 2 years,in the philadelphia area the neww solution
for young people to get off it is methadone maitnance for
a one year program, that cost 100 dollas a week.
with all my experence with drugs , useing them and getting clean
she asked me what i thought,it was drastic but probley safer.
my question is , im i crazy but woulden't a 30 day detox/rehab
be smarter then getting locked into a year long metadone program.i would think as a society we could offer young people
a better solution,my neice has told me she has more then a few
friends who are now involved with the methadone program due
to oxy addiction, all being under 21. due they have shorter
methadone programs, she also said they want cash and you can try to get your ins to reinburse you.
i have no experence with these programs.
any input would help.
thanks --------------hippy
for about 2 years,in the philadelphia area the neww solution
for young people to get off it is methadone maitnance for
a one year program, that cost 100 dollas a week.
with all my experence with drugs , useing them and getting clean
she asked me what i thought,it was drastic but probley safer.
my question is , im i crazy but woulden't a 30 day detox/rehab
be smarter then getting locked into a year long metadone program.i would think as a society we could offer young people
a better solution,my neice has told me she has more then a few
friends who are now involved with the methadone program due
to oxy addiction, all being under 21. due they have shorter
methadone programs, she also said they want cash and you can try to get your ins to reinburse you.
i have no experence with these programs.
any input would help.
thanks --------------hippy
i was thinking the same thing about them
but i did not want to rush to such a judgement
without 1st getting some input.
the people i know who have been on methadone maitnance
were buying other peoples dose's
my only concern was ,my neice and her friends drink
and i read that drinking and oxy can be a deadly mix.
i have already lost a younger brother to an accidental
overdose, he was drinking and taking xanax but his friends
spiked his beer with heroin,when he fell out they took his
money and went to cop , when they came back later the next morning he was dead. these were all people he went to grade school and high school with, one of them was a friend of mine and he told me what really happened 6 months after the fact,
because the guilt was eating him up.
my brother had been clean for 14 years , a few months previous to this. so i have to be carefull what i say to my neice.
my neices mother , my sister and i do not talk as it is, due to
her being an active alcoholic.
thanks agian
Good luck
Hope she gets the help she needs.
peace!!!!!!!!!hippy
I'm assuming your niece is not using oxy for chronic pain, but simply abusing it. Is it worth $5000+ to put your addiction on hold for a year? Then what?
JMHO,
James
(congratulations on your year BTW. I'd love to be able to look back on a year clean)
Hope she gets the help she needs.
Eventually, the 6 Norco/day wasn't cutting it and I began uping my dose. My doc thought methadone (30mg daily) was the next logical step as it would give me a more constant pain reduction throughout the day to elleviate the ups and downs I was trying to deal with (you know, being a clock-watcher for the next available dose according to your script). Supposedly, this was to be only for 8 weeks.
A year and 1/2 later, the 30mg isn't enough and my doc says its time to take a break from the methadone to reduce my tolorence--- at least a 3 month break. I tried tapering for the last 3 months, but it was too much. However, I knew what was coming (doc walking in and saying, NOW is the time). So, last Saturday, I c/t on my own.
I am now on Day 8. The first 5 days I had all symptoms (constant cramping, willies (RLS), no sleep, shits, towering emotions, helplessness, etc..) and thought I was going to die and/or kill myself just to get away from it. On the 6th day, went to the Doc and told him where I was at. He gave me some clonipin, ctepress (blood pressure cause I was at 146/100), and some ambien. He was shocked; which made me feel good because I accomplished what I set out to do, which was take that monkey down on my own terms; on my time (we all know my back was against the wall). But the reality is, methadone is a gorilla.
I'm depressed, I don't have any energy, patience, or desires- for anything. My back hurts like hell and I feel there's no hope that I won't be thinking every day about taking those pills that seem to numb the pain and everything else away.
Doc says this withdrawal phase with methadone can last up to 5 to 6 weeks. Frying pan indeed.Anybody have any ideas on how you beat the methadone gorilla when you have a back pain gorilla too.
Please think long and hard about methadone maintenance for anything. When it's time for me to decide whether to go back on, its going to come down to whether or not I'll be garunteed to be on it for the rest of my life (which I know he can't); Because I know I couldn't do this again.
Fool
I am using sonata instead ... but my goal is to be drug free. I know I can do it. Long lasting drugs are very hard to get off of. I would never go back to methadone. That is the Nazi drug. So what if you need to use pain meds again ... at least you will be able to get off ..... good luck, Goldie
i found a way to get off the narcotics,maybe this will help someon out there,,,maybe not ,but here it goes. A JUICER ,,,juice your way through the withdrawls,you will feel so good you wont believe it,also there is a vitamins called ULTRA ENERGY NOW,they sell the packets in the jiffy markets,all herbs no jun.et me know if it helps anyone ,,,t took me 4 years to do this and it is the only thing they did it for me and i was bad,,,,love berta
berta
cognitive-behavior approach, i am not up to date on such
an approach, i shall talk to my sister in law about it
,she is a doctor like yourself.
when i see the word cognitive , i think of awareness of self,
i am one of the 12 step people you have mentioned,
but unlike my father who is aa, and his step work is very
simple,
i have searched hi and low to find people who understood the 12 steps,working the 12 steps is a lot of writenig of inventory
about one self and what was the cercumstance and the consequence
of any situation.
comein to grip that i am the problem.
along with the principles.
how does your approch work.i am sure some people here
would be interested.
Good luck