well all i can say is that my dr. has me on the duragesic patchAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy(fentanyl) and if she is on the patchAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy the she shouldnt go through any withdawl,  but then again im not a dr. but i didnt have any withdrawl systoms,  but i also take the patchAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy and sometmes vics and other pills on top of it so.. good luck and feel free to post again... gamzz

she should not go into withdrawl... hope the painAbdominal pain
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Skin color - patchy works well for her! she is aware of the addictionDrug abuse and dependence part of taking narcoticsDrug abuse isn't she? just wondering...



amber

The painAbdominal pain
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Chronic pain - resources patchAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy is a good choice for ADdicts in chronicAcute vs. chronic conditions
Addison’s disease
Anemia of chronic disease
Cause of chronic bronchitis
Chronic bronchitis
Chronic cholecystitis
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Chronic lymphocytic leukemia (cll)
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Chronic motor tic disorder painAbdominal pain
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Child abuse - sexual
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Signs of drug abuse it as easily.  But...it is not advised to take other pills with it.  That patchAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy btw is very potent.  Be careful.  Combining it with others meds can be fatal.  Just saw that on TV last night.

Peace to your life...

Suzie

i read somewhere on this board that someone used to abuseAlcoholism
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Skin color - patchy by chewing it??? i have used the fentanyl patchAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy before and poked holes in it but never thought to chew it! lol!!! the things that we come up with! we are truly creative people, aren't we???



amber rae

WEll if someone wants to eat glue...and plastic or what ever the outside is made of.... then go for it...(NOT!).  btw plastic is very carcenagenic...in fact some believe that is why the cancerAcute lymphocytic leukemia (all)
Ascites with ovarian cancer, ct scan
Basal cell cancer
Basal cell carcinoma
Bladder cancer
Breast cancer
Breast lumps and cancer
Bronchial cancer - chest x-ray
Bronchial cancer - ct scan
Cancer
Cancer - penis rate is so high.  EVERYTHING NOW IS PLASTIC.  I do not use plastic cups, utencils or plates with my daughter.  

Peace..

Suzie

i agree with you about plastic, i hate it, it does not break down, neither does styrofoam... i am pro-earth! earth good, plastic bad!! lol!!!



amber

Fentynl is extremely potent and quite a switch from vicodinVicodin
Vicodin tuss. She shouldn't have ANY type of withdrawalsDelirium tremens. Albeit she will be quite high for the firstFirst progesterone mc10
First progesterone mc5
First-progesterone vgs 200
First-progesterone vgs 400 few patchesAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy IMO.

It is also hard to taper down and get off of if that is something that may be necessary in the future. Just something to keep in mind.

I am in negotiations with my doc of changing my painAbdominal pain
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Skin color - patchy were one of the options given. I think I am going to decline and stick with what I have been doing seeing as how potent fentynl is an I really don't want to have to taper down from something like that.



Just my 2 cents. Hope everything works out for your MIL.



Chezz

Hi chezz how goes all the battles? I haven't heard from you in awhile.



Sheila

Hey Dreaming,



It has been up and down for me with the painAbdominal pain
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Before and after corneal surgery
Brain surgery
Carotid artery surgery
Carotid artery surgery - series
Cataract removal
Cataract surgery - series
Cervical cryosurgery
Cervix treatment - cryosurgery
Congenital heart defect corrective surgery
Corneal surgery, to no avail.

I just had a little problem with my meds and had to make a call to make it till Monday. Not of my doing for once. The wife was a little pissed, enough said.



Anyway, I have been doing great with taking my meds properly. The painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
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Chronic pain - resources has tought me a lot. Of course I am still learning.

When I go in Monday I think I am going to make another drastic decrease in my meds which I have been doing over the last month. I am sickSick sinus syndrome of the meds, as much as the painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain
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Anterior knee pain
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Chronic pain - resources. Ijust want to get through this though.

I guess you could say I am at a point of confusionConfusion
Delirium, once again.

It will all work out, as long as I make it happen.

I hope things are going well for you.

My hiatis from the forum was well needed.

Chezz

You think chewing it is bad...A guy I used to buy oxys from said he had a patchAllergy testing
Skin color - patchy that you can make a little cutCuts and puncture wounds in it, squeeze until a bubble of liquidLiquid co-q10
Liquid pedvaxhib
Liquid pred forms, suck the bubble up in a needle and then shoot it!  It's sadDepression but anyone can fall deep enough into addictionDrug abuse and dependence and do things they would never imagine themselves...

Some of you have already read my post from this morning where I stated that my AA sponsor wanted to have a talk w/ me before our mtg.Well, I'll be GODDAMNED if she didn't accuse me of DRINKING...........Let me start at the beginning: I go over to her car, and I see she's got a book in her grubby little handsHand or foot spasms
Hand tremor called" Sober but  STUCK". (**** me gently---I AIN'T going' THERE!!!! ) So I  said," Hey!! GOOD book!!" (never saw it before in my life.....)  She asked, looking disappointed," Oh--You ALREADY read it??!!"  I said, "Oh, yeah--a LONG time ago--a friend of mine gave it to me.  It really hit home."  (HAHAHAAH  AM I good or WHAT???) SO I said, "So, is somebody sickSick sinus syndrome, or what?  What couldn't  you talk to me about over the phone?"  She got out of the car and said, in one sentence:"  You know you can't drink don't you have you been out drinking again?" My mouthMouth sores
Oral cancer fell open ( I'm sure of it) and I said" Jesus Christ!!  Why do you think THAT ?? NO, I have NOT been drinking AT ALL". Then she backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment-tracked and said, "Well I didn't THINK you had, but I wasn't SURE". I said," NOOOO. You assumed I HAD and that's why you accused me!!"  I reminded her that I have random drugChemical dependence - resources
Chemotherapy
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Drug abuse first aid
Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
Drug signs and teenagers
Drug-induced hypertension testing for three years, and had I dropped dirty, everyone in three counties would have been notified..."  She said. again, about 5 times:  " I didn't think you drank but I wondered if you had...."  ****.  She was trying to laugh it off, and I kept swinging the conversation backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment around.  She said she thought that because I hadn't been saying," Hi, I'm Diane and I'm an alcoholic" that I had "gone backBack pain - low
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Primary brain tumor in her headHead and face reconstruction
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Head lice
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Radial head injury.  I was so PISSED that she just JUMPED to such a DRASTIC (not to mention ILLOGICAL) conclusion based on such STUPID evidence..........DAMN!!! Thanks for the vote of confidence... But, in wanting me to read that book, (plus my recent drunken episodes) all point to the fact that she DOESN'T think my program is "what it should be" (ie: Exactly like HERS) and so she was going to get me on the right path.  Yo wench!! Don't let the door hit your ass on your way out.........It's been REAL>>>>>>>>  Sorry to be so cranky, but I am AGHAST and INSULTED  because it just wasn't warranted.....Or at the very LEAST, she could have been far less accusatory.    Am I wrong here?  Peazy

hi peazy,

im sorry to here about you problem with your sponser.

i think you know i have been in 12 program s since i was 16,

now im 43, in the begining years there was onlty 7 na meetins in the phila area, so we had to go to both.

since i was 24 i only go to na, because i found myself lying to fit  in in aa. i have run into a lot of judgemental people in the programs,  we need people to support us , not insult us and hurt our feelings.

being trusted by our sponser is a big thing, along with the trust of others in the program , including our home group.

12 step program are not a place we go to unless we have found ourselves  at the end of the road of addictionDrug abuse and dependence.

i must say tho, when people really get better there , they become very good people, kind and caring people.

that comes from working the steps, and learning to live a life based on the awakaning of the spirit.

we need to find a trusting sponser, who does not have  themselves

on a pedastool. one thing i have learned from some sponsers over the years was , what not to do to other people when i sponsed them.

look for the good in people, , and when it comes to sponsers

find one who is smart, knows the steps, and is good hearted.



one of the other reasons i stopped going to aa was , because

i was a drud addict and some people in aa don't have any time for addicts, they look down on addicts,

aa is more socialy acceptable. by the genarel public, you can get you job backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment , when you attend, but addicts going to na ,

this is not as accepted and your job is most of the time lost.



i know many addicts in aa, they never drank in there life,

they say , they find it more mature.

my experence is to go the extra mile if you are going to get

involved with a 12 step program. and make a commitment to one

fellowship or the other. going to both can be problematic.



my father has been sober in aa for 38 years, i myself am committed to na.



peace

I wish I could put some encouraging words together for you, but at the moment I'm trying to get over my addictionDrug abuse and dependence.  My dealer just called and ask if I needed anything because he's got some really cheap.  I have about $600 in my wallet right now because I'm about to go to FL, going through some wicked WD, and any amount of OC would feel sooooo good right now... I said no.  I want to call him backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  F---!

hey steve, hippy here

change your phone number, or do someting like stay with somebody

untill you get a few weeks under your belt.

i had to turn my cell phone off when i got clean.

i also had to hang around with some freinds who were clean.

i could never say no.

keep posting and talk to someone who is close to you,

when you find yourself in such situations, one thing is for

sure , once you get through a few situations like this

,it gets easier.

being clean is a wonderfull way to live , it is worth all the painAbdominal pain
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peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!HIPPY

IF YOU NEED TO TALK MY EMAIL IS   ***@****

I hear you about the cell phone thing for some strange reason i have not been able to find mine in almost 2 weeks.  Coincidentally being the last day I took pills.



having a really tough day today coming here and reading helps some times.  I havent been able to figure out what the heck I am going to do about the painAbdominal pain
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Acupuncture and pain
Ankle pain
Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
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Causes of painful intercourse
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Choosing a primary care provider
Ewing’s sarcoma
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I know that even though i get things done on pills that they were slowly killing me.  My kidneysAcute kidney failure
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Dialysis
End-stage kidney disease
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I was reading what hippe said about the na meetings I dont think i am ready yet but i dont want to loose the time i have in again I have 12 full days in and tomorrow is lucky 13,.



God Bless



Cleo101

Peaz,



All I can say on that issue "IS WHAT A ******* PAINAbdominal pain
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Anterior knee pain
Back pain - low
Bone pain or tenderness
Breast pain
Causes of painful intercourse
Chest pain
Chronic pain - resources IN THE ASS THAT CAN BE SOMETIMES!!!"



Although we know how strong you are in your convictions, so I am sure you will work it out.



It is funny though, the bullshit you have to go through sometimes to keep you from drinking/drugsChemical dependence - resources
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Drug allergies
Drug induced hypertension
Drug rash on the back
Drug rash, tegretol
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Drug-induced hypertension, will drive you in that direction just from the bullshit you have to deal with. Especially from the zealots, that it is their way or the wrong way.



Keep it up, you know what way is up...



Chezz

cograts, that is great , you are at the point

where you may want to start to exersize as much as possible.

keep posting. helping other is a great way to help ourselves.

get involved in your town, donate some time to help at a home for the eldery . donate some time at a hospital for sickly kids.

or meals on wheels ,

gettting involved in something positive is very helpfll.



the worst thing we can do is , to just sit around. in

our spare time.

one of the great things about the 12 step programs is

that there are always people looking for help to get clean.



peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy