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getting honest.....

by AmberHunter, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
just going to start like this: last night i drank... we are having a big music festival here and i was feeling festive and decided to have a beer and two shots of jager... i started to feel guilty and then had to remind myself that i am not in NA picking up chips anymore... but i did feel like i owed it to this forum to be honest... so there it is...



it was not much fun, it was even less fun this morning and i don't feel like repeating it tonight but it kind of scares me... i don't want to go back to where i was but i don't seem to have ever been successful in recreational use of ANYTHING... but i am not going to beat myself up over this, not much anyhow!



doc, am i gonna be okay??? get out your crystal ball and tell me!!!



amber
Member Comments (37)

by whatitistoburn, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
To: Amber
Hi Amber,



Like you said, don't beat yourself up over this. I'm sorry I do not know your story to comment any further. I think it's great that you came here with your truth.



Be good to yourslef.



Burn

by AmberHunter, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
thanks burn... i was sober for about 4.5 months off of alcohol (i am a junkie, this just involves booze this time though)... clean and sober... no opiates... no weed... but last night i did some very controlled drinking but it made me feel bad... that is the bottom line there... if i had had fun it would have been one thing but it wasn't alot of fun... but how much of that is conditioning from all my years in NA??? that guilt that you can only honor your clean time if it is consecutive??? see, that is my dilema (sp) i don't know where my guilt is coming from, or am i trying to split hairs? i just don't know...



anyhow, i had posted down in another thread that if there were any of you that wanted an additional forum to chat in to contact me by email: ***@****...



thanks for being there burn, i was so happy to see that i had gotten a response!



amber

by Thomas050, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
To: AmberHunter
Yea, don't beat yourself up about it. We are human. You say it wasn't much fun, and you feel crappy the next day. (I go thru the same exact thing). It is that very thought that can and will ultimately help you win the battle. Recal and focus on the hate part. It's great ammo.



Regards,

Thomas050

by Wardman, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
Amber,I forget, are/were you addicted to alcohol or just opiates?   Do you feel guilty about having alcohol becuase of it?   Well I am addicted to pain pills (hopefully quitting this week)  I have never been in any program but when I have clean time, I have never felt guilty about drinking probably because alcohol is not my DOC.  You are human and do not think of this as a setback and good luck.

by whatitistoburn, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
To: Amber
Hi Amber,



I'm a recovering alcoholic too, and have been in AA for over a decade. Last night I drank 3 beers, and could hardly choke them down. I did it because I wanted to get a little buzz, and have a little fun. Didn't happen. No fun at all. I think the guilt you are suffering is from all of the NA/AA conditioning. I know that's how it was for me.



Please be good and kind to yourself, you're not evil for having a few drinks. Last night is over with, today is a new day.



I will contact you later through the email you set up.



Burn

by pax, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
I am clean off oxycontin for about 26 days. I had a couple slip ups with norco and am really wondering if the 3 days I took norco ( 5 pills per day ) set me back aways on my recovery. I am dying to get back to feeling normal but it just seems like every day is a repeat of the day bbefore. Anyone have some thoughts or encouragement on this cause I could sure use it. Someone have a similar situation or just plain know the answer? Let me know???

by AmberHunter, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
alcohol is not my DOC but after 8 years clean in NA i relapsed and abused alcohol just like i had abused drugs... opiates are my DOC, pref. heroin but all pills are fair game in my book...



so burn, you think the guilt is from NA/AA conditioning? i am not terribly guilty but i am not sure if i am "supposed" to feel guilty... too much mental masturbation going on in my head today! email me!



amber

by whatitistoburn, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
To: Amber
The email has been sent!



Burn

by hippy, May 03, 2003 12:00AM
To: amber
hey amber, take it lite.

just try to stay clean, and continue whwere you were,

, don't make a mountian out of a mole hill.

pick  up a na basic text and read the chapters   RECOVERY

AND RELASP AMF JUSY FOR TODAY



KEEP YOUR HEAD UP /



PEACE!!!HIPPY

by solveig, May 04, 2003 12:00AM
Sorry, this is not a direct comment.  Have been lurking and trying to start a thread for a long time, but no luck.

I want to ask a question from those of you with experience with METHADONE.  Enough people here?  and, Will I get responses if I post as a "comment" rather than a "question"?

by solveig, May 04, 2003 12:00AM
To: previous:about METHADONE
Hoping previous comment gets read by all of you guys here.

by Thomas050, May 04, 2003 12:00AM
To: Solveig
Hi Solveig,

Yes you can start a topic, and yes you will get some great feedback here. Best to start a new thread though, as it does not really fit under this topic. You are unable to start a new topic? You should be able to if you registered and have your password (and if you are able to post replies I assume you are). If you can't and would like I will start it for you.

Regards,

Thomas050



PS, to all, thanks for the above posts. It really does help to talk to people who can relate.

by AmberHunter, May 04, 2003 12:00AM
a bunch of us here have experience with methadone... what is it you want to know, i can't remember if you posted a specific question or not...



and it is hard to start a new thread, i had tried many, many times before i started this one, it always told me basically that it was closed for the day, lol!



thanks all for your posts to me, i feel better actually... not obsessing over having drank, i honestly think that i was SUPPOSED to feel guilty (my NA conditioning) and i did feel guilty for a bit and then i just didn't... drinking wasn't fun that night, it just wasn't, i don't have to drink again if i don't want to, but if i do i don't have to feel guilty... like, i don't have to think, well, i already drank friday night, might as well shoot dope now! or, already "relapsed" might as well "stay out" and **** up all the way... well, today i am beginning to understand that i don't have to swallow all that old b.s. my mind tells me and the fellowship conditioned me to believe...



thanks again, and please, if any of you are interested in a forum for addicts by addicts please email me: ***@****!



love,



amber

by AmberHunter, May 04, 2003 12:00AM
just read the docs post... i am going to print that out and paste it on my bathroom mirror! i really am!! thank you so much for answering that post, and on a sunday no less!!!!!!



as far as tabu goes, not from the forties, not even close but i LOVE tabu, my aunt wore it in the sixties and to this day whenever i smell tabu it brings me back to a wonderful time in my life!!!! sometimes i even where it myself!



thanks again!



amber

by steve1981, May 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Pax
I was severly addicted to OCs a couple of years ago.  I was clean for a few months, then started taking norcos, lortabs, etc. for a while.  It didn't take long before I was addicted to Oxys again.  Be careful.  If you get addicted to the norcos, then you can't find any one day, but know where so oxys are, you'll probably end up back on them.

by StrengthandHope, May 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Everyone § Hippe
Hey Everyone,



Its been awhile since my last post but I was thinking about posting something like this for awhile.  I have a pill (mostly oxy codone and oxycontins), alcohol, marajuana problem since I was about 12.  I am now 29.  I have been clean since mid sept. This was my first honest attempt at going clean.  I did it and was very strong, I really thought I was over it. the truth is the depression has never ended.  I am very sad all the time.  I over relied on an old girlfriend who I have completely pushed away because of my struggle.  My parents are of no help being that they think me admiting I have a drug problem makes them look like bad parents.  Reading these posts is all I have right now to help me.  I need help very bad.



about 2 or 3 weeks ago I started using again... everything. I am so weak. My question is: does anyone here go through this alone? How do you do it? I think I only have one friend who doesn;t have a serious drug problem.  I goto NA sometimes but it makes me so sad afterwards.



I live in philly. Hipee think you could send me an email.  I would like to know which NA meetings you attend.  ***@****



thanks for all your support it is truly appreicated.



by NEW ORLEANS LADY, May 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Strengthandhope/Everyone
Hi and welcome--If you are looking for help because of your drug use this is the place to be--Most everyone on this forum knows exactly what you are going through!--I think one of the reasons many addicts return to using is not being able to handle the depression--The thing that has made a substantial difference this time for me is I'm taking an anti-depressant called Wellbutrin--Can you possibly make an appointment with a doc and see if something like that would be appropriate for you?--What about an addictionologist?--In the meantime just keep reading and posting someone will eventually respond!  Just remember-- you are not alone we're all in the same boat just trying to stay afloat!  You'll be in my prayers--Peace/N.O. Lady/AKA Mystere



Anne

by AmberHunter, May 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: strengthandhope and all...
there is no such thing as perfection... no perfect marriage, perfect kids, perfect recovery *looking at self in mirror*



it has gone something like this for me in NA:



clean 4 months



clean 15 months



clean 8 years



clean 6 months



clean NOW!!



would i change it, maybe... but did i learn something every single time from it all? yep! i sure did~ and today i don't hold myself up to an all or nothing recovery such as i had pursued for so many years in NA...



good luck!!!!!! and keep trying!



amber



by lisabet, May 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: strengthandhope
Hey you----I understand your feeling of aloneness and hopelessness; all of us users have felt this way.  In a way, we really are alone - nobody can help us but...OURSELVES....but God, it's really hard to do.  You were clean for 6-7 months before starting to use again....WAY TO GO!!!! My dear, you are NOT weak, especially if you were clean that long..  My God, I've never been ever to stay clean for that long....Believe me, if you did it before you can do it again!!!  Sweetheart, if you're having problems with depression, please see a doctor.  I, myself am on prozac (which I was on years ago to battle post-partem depression)....I've now been on it 2 months, and believe me, it helps...of course, this is only my experience (also, in my experience, do NOT take Paxil, this anti-depressant seems to have more side effects and if you go off of it you have all kinds of symptoms!)  My hope for you is that you can claim your life back....love/peace, Lisabet

by AlexisInTx, May 06, 2003 12:00AM
Just wanted to post a quick message.  I'm dealing with coming off of the pain