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Chicken for kickin'
by Tiredofkickin, May 05, 2003 12:00AM
Newby here......I've kicked down from the 100 fentenal patch to the 25mg patch. BUT, I'm still taking my 7.5 perks, (about 6/7 per day and about 1/2 dozen "libbies" 25mg (librium.) I DO have a history of two neck operations after a work-related accident and now my lower back is shot to Hell. I've been on this veritable roller-coaster since '96 and CERTAINLY in the Spiritual "grey-zone." EVERY morning I wake up sick and have to use my "Tens" machine while I wait for the perks to kick in. (Sometimes about 2 hours.) I have a "great"? doc"/feelgood" and this AM I'm tempted to have him up me to demeral. (Used to get ER shots for the migraines..dem) THEN I FOUND THIS SITE!!! I'll tell ya...I'm a "chicken for kickin" and have really been around the block in that department, but instead of going down in dosage, I'm contemplating kickin' in the "after-burners." (Demies)Before I end up writting a book here, I'll ask my question/s. I've TRIED MANY TIMES CT...but it NEVER ENDS!!!!!! How long DOES it take before this **** is out of my system? It seems to be a "catch-22" because the pain is intolerable when I attempt to kick..(neck/low/mid/back.)I will go 4/5/6 days until I just say Fxxx it. Would the methadone program be a better way to go? (I've heard that's going from the fryin' pan into the fire!) 12 steppin ain't for me. (Been there...done that.)This "bland" existance is gettin VERY old and if it wasn't for my 3 kids & wife, I'd seriously consider "checking-out......." I'll be 51 years old here in June, so I'm no Spring-Chickin". I also NEED support and some feedback. HELP?
as far as the pain thing goes... i also have pain issues and was on a pain clinic for two years... ended up on 90mg. of oramorph and 12mg. of dilaudid a day... it took me about four months that time to feel normal after i detoxed... i was in treatment for about 5 weeks and left pretty sick but pretty determined...
the pain does come back, but how much of it is actual pain and an actual cry for more narcotics from my brain/body that is used to and so desires more drugs... i have been off of all opiates since dec. 24, 2002 and i am having pain but i find that it is not as bad as i had thought it was back four years ago... and it is bad, but i get through ok with motrin most days... alot of days i don't take anything. i do alot of stretching and alternative body work for the pain and stiffness (i have degenerative disc disease, two herniated L4 and L4-5, seven cervical disc bulging and ankylosing spondilytis) and i also have hepatitis C...
that's my story, you can do it you know, but only you can do it, and it is not going to be easy, but if it is worth it to you give it a good shot, and if at first you don't succeed keep trying, always keep trying!
peace,
amber
On the other hand, the methadone road may be the way to go for you if you are in such horrible chronic pain. There's a guy here that knows a lot about the methadone route for pain control. I have chronic pain too, but couldn't live in that terrible darkness the opiates brought to me. There was no color to my life, and I was at the same place you are right now. Very down, distraught, and no spiritual connection at all. I don't want that for my life, that is why I decided to quit. I don't feel numb anymore, I feel sooooo much, too much right now, but I know that will level out as time goes on.
Take care,
Burn
Burn
i started a very simple forum, you can post there and there is no wading through all sorts of business type stuff... very simple to use. i have noticed that this board can only handle so much traffic and thought it would be fun to hang out somewhere in addition to this board.
if ANYONE is interested please email me at ***@****
okie dokie??
peace,
amber
im frm phila pa.
and a tens unit ia a little electrical
unit , that sends electical viberations
to the area where you tape it to your body,
like on your back, it has two wires with two
flat rubber squares about 2 inches in widt
you put a kind of clear jell on the area and tape the
squares on the area that is hurting, then you turn on the tens unit, it sends out fairly strong electical vibrations,
when you are in severe pain it , works for some while you have it on. when yo turn it off , it is like it was never there.
it is the ultamate in false optimism,
i have one , that i never use, they cost about 4 hundred.
chiropractors use them.
i would be interested in what others have to say about them.
i get better results from a heating pad. or a bag of ice.
peace hippy.
im frm phila pa.
and a tens unit ia a little electrical
unit , that sends electical viberations
to the area where you tape it to your body,
like on your back, it has two wires with two
flat rubber squares about 2 inches in widt
you put a kind of clear jell on the area and tape the
squares on the area that is hurting, then you turn on the tens unit, it sends out fairly strong electical vibrations,
when you are in severe pain it , works for some while you have it on. when yo turn it off , it is like it was never there.
it is the ultamate in false optimism,
i have one , that i never use, they cost about 4 hundred.
chiropractors use them.
i would be interested in what others have to say about them.
i get better results from a heating pad. or a bag of ice.
peace hippy.
I'm not An MD, but my comment on the tonsilitis gig would be that, during detox, sleep is the LAST thing that we get. In my case, when I would get run down from lack of sleep, my tonsils would swell and I'd feel like **** until I either got sleep or an antibiotic or both.
Ultracet is apap (acetaminophen) and tramadol, which, though it ISN'T classified as a narcotic, is STILL highly addictive, and you can find horror stories about detoxing from it on any given thread in this forum. So WATCH it. That buzz you feel is telling you sumthin'.....I fyou don't need the remainder of the RX---PITCH THEM. Just MHO.
Best of luck --good to hear from you!!! Peazy
I was doing good, Friday night me and 2 of my dearest friends went out and were out until 5:30AM. I drank 7 Long Island Ice Teas. It's ok b/c alcohol is definately NOT my DOC. I very RARELY drink alcohol. We had a blast and I forgot all about my evening med. Even in the morning I didn't feel the w/d. But it hit me in the afternoon so I had to take something.
Then it happened. Yesterday afternoon I had a terrible slip and fall and messed up my neck and back. Well if you want to read the rest, go visit Amber's new board. It is Great...Thank you Amber for starting it. You people are my rock. I will be drug free by 2004.
Thank you all for being so wonderful....