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Long-term effects of ReVia (naltrexone)?

by Kurt Cobain, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
Hey guys. . .was wondering if anyone else here is/has been on naltrexone as part of their recovery.  I've been taking 50mg daily since just about a year ago now and have had no problems.  Seems to reduce any occasional cravings for the junk as well as stabilize my mood somewhat.  I know that its use at higher doses in patients with liver/hepatic system issues is not indicated.  Amazingly, with all the **** that I've done to myself, however, my liver screens have always come up fine. . .go figure.  As far as I'm concerned, I would take this every day for the rest of my life. . .frankly, no matter what others' opinions may be about naltrexone (some "old-school" recovery people call it a "crutch"), what *I* call it is an insurance policy against doing something stupid in the heat of the moment (which I've been famous for, and I'm sure many of you guys can relate as well).  Knowing that once this is in my system in a steady state (as it is, since I take it daily) that I would actually have to PLAN a relapse is just a source of reassurance and comfort to me.  I'd love to hear anyone else's opinions on this matter.
Member Comments (50)

by vikequeen, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
sorry to hyjack your thread dude but due to Satan and his mindless drivel, everyday the posts become full, can we please remoce this cosmic star ex pill man from here? I for one think hes a sick twisted individual and hes bringing me down, I have been on this board almost 2 years and have gotten tons of info but to continue to allow him to sprew his **** is doing a disservice to us all who are here for the purpose of getting help

I am sure he will put some voodoo curse on me but I dont give a ****. Baddgirl

by Expillman, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
I would like to apologize for anyone who I might have offended in this Forum and will impose a VOLUNTARY two-week vacation in which I will not post any message.  



I will return on June 20.  This should allow all the personal attacks to roll off.  If I am attacked in my absence and/or on June 20th, I will know that this is a War Board.



Prove me wrong.  





P.S.  Atheists don't beleive in Voo-Doo nonsense either.





regards,



Expillman

by motox4fun01, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Expillgoat
A War Board?

What the hell are you talking about?

You are a constantly whining little kid who is always looking for a fight.

Go find happiness in life instead of making misery for everyone else.

James

by mrmichael67, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: cosmicstargoat/expillman
I have an idea:  When it is June 20 and it is time to return, DON'T.

by AmberHunter, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
DAMN IT!!!! i come on here today and the same **** is going on even though someone asked a QUESTION!!! what the hell is the matter with you people...



a question is posted and two of our members choose to keep this stupid **** going on... i mean, why? what are you getting from it? why keep it going on?



is chaos so much more familiar to us as "addicts" that we grab onto any chance to fuss and bicker with each other???



ok, revia...



my doctor had wanted to put me on revia after i was in treatment a few years ago... but when i took it i "imagined" that i was having some sort of adverse side-effect from it so i quit taking it... i believe that i just didn't want to take it, had reservations then that i probably wasn't even aware of... as far as it being a crutch, who cares, whatever works, works!!



people have many differing opinions on what "works" in recovery, i think that it is pretty personal and what is good about a board or fellowship of people is that we get to see all the differing ways that people go about getting and staying clean...



peace,



amber

by mrmichael67, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
Sorry, but I have been completely ignoring him for almost two days now.  I am a long time member here and I am allowed to post what I think.  He has totally jammed this place up for three days and I think he should go.  Simple as that.  And, that is also my last comment on the issue.

by skipper, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
hey people:

there are some really good questions and isues brouht up in this thread! kind of refrehing...maybe there is more to uss than qa bunch

of pisser and moaners waiting around for our next shot!



so KC, about naltexone....i have very strong (and negative felings about this opiate antagonist.  my feelings about this drug shoulf be put aside. enough addicts have had a very a + expierence with it to ignore it. a quote form John Genet is is in order...." oh i beg thee  spare your wrath and spare your scorn...for man needs from every creature born"...



and now badgirl, you would like goat boy and and expillman and what ever else he (i think calls himself) banned??!!! my memory is not what it used to be, but were there not similar recomendations for your case?



and lastly, expillman...leave the board for and then come back?!?!?

what will this accomplish. perhaps if in that time you make significant personal changes...what purpose would this serve? leave if you must, please come back when you are ready.



all of you, keep an angel on your shulder

kip

by AmberHunter, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Everyone/mr. michael
mr. michael, do you have an email addy? would you mind if i emailed you privately? ***@****



by skipper, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
my deepest appologys for all the spelling an gramar errors of my last post. perhaps i am the idiot i appearnto be....sorry!!



(and i also need too) keep an angel on your shoulder!!

kip

by Kurt Cobain, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Amber
Thanks, Amber.  I, too, am a member of "the Church of Whatever Works" as far as this addiction monster is concerned.  Starting ReVia IS kind of a weird concept for a lifetime addict like me to get his head around -- "wait, this means even if I **** up, I WON'T GET HIGH!  That SUCKS!"  Kinda like putting the candy jar on the top shelf and then burning the ladder. . .but in my case I had some serious incentive to get and stay clean (that were at the time several pending felony counts and probation) and so got into the habit of taking it regularly and, well, here I am.



From both my psychiatrist (who now writes the naltrexone scrips for me) and the addictionologist at my last rehab (who originally suggested and started me on it) I got no indication that long-term use would cause any harm -- just curious if anyone else had any other info.  Thanks again, Amber.  Take care.



Peace,



Kurt

by AmberHunter, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Everyone/Kurt
you're funny! but yes, taking revia is like dousing any reservations you might have about EVER, EVER using narcotics again! lol!! i think my shrink had told me that sometimes some really desperate addicts have tried using while taking revia... i believe it, lol!!



i don't know of any problem that comes with taking revia long term... and you know what, we never really seem to worry too much about long term use of ALL that acetaminophen that we put in our bodies, or the crappy cut that is in heroin, or shooting all that filler in dilaudid... but then we get clean, take revia and start to wonder if it will hurt us! we are fantastic people aren't we!!



what is so wonderful about NA, or these forums online (most of the time) is that i still get to hang out with other addicts... i am and probably always will be the most comfortable with "my own kind"!



peace,



amber

by thetxhartclan, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
I am interested in this topic, the Naltrexone.  I was on Talwin NX a while back, and I guess it has that in it as well.  I guess this would only be something to use if you were not taking ANY opiates, correct?  I am still on a taper of hydro, and actually still do need it for chronic pain too, but would like to be totally off one day.  Not sure how that will work with having chronic pain, but just wondering.  Hope everyone is doing well today!  



Rebecca

by Kurt Cobain, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Rebecca, Amber, and all
Rebecca, I'm pretty sure that you DO have to be completely off any opiates before starting ReVia. . .since naltrexone (the chemical in ReVia) is a narcotic agonist, you must be completely narcotic free for (I think my doctor said) ten days to two weeks before you can start.  Since it is, after all, the stuff they hit you with (in massive doses) when you OD on smack, it essentially "forces" the body through an immediate withdrawal. . .not anything you'd want to have happen, in other words.  Maybe you can find some kind of alternative drug or therapy than narcotics for your chronic pain -- I know there are several really knowledgable people on this site who may be able to suggest something.  Hang in there in any case, and thanks for your response. . .will be thinking of you.



Peace,



Kurt

by hippy, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: kurt
kurt if you go up to the search ,just abobe you post on this board, it willl take you to the serch site for past post

and if you go to n  it will pull up naltrexone ,

ther is about 10 past post on it.

i am not sure but i think naltrexone andsuboxone  make up

bup. ya have to check that out .



hippy ,



ps. pill goat , change your name / handle and start over

and pretend to be a real nice guy, as they say in aa fake it till ya make it.

by Kurt Cobain, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: hippee
Thanks, dude.  I'm off to check it out.  Should have thought of that myself, but oh well. . .that's why we all have each other, right?



Peace,



Kurt

by pepsi4, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
To: Expillgoat
I had no intention of getting into this, but you obviously other problems besides being an addict.  Get those straightened out and you will find that you will be welcomed back  -- I don't think I need to say anymore....

by mrmichael67, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
I posted it on another thread, but I am going to put it here as well:  http://www.uoregon.edu/~iishp/MillerS.html  There is a lot of information about the technical in and outs of it all.  It also shows where naloxone will antagonize endorphins.  Naltrexone acts the same way.  Revia has helped people.  There are also some who always feel in a fog.  When it comes time to replace the pellet, they start to feel better again.  Going on naltrexone is a big decision.

by Poppylover, Jun 06, 2003 12:00AM
Good Afternoon All,

I wanted to Say Thank You to everyone here that always welcomes everyone without hesitation. I know that the first weeks of oxycontin wd's I was so sick, full of guilt for allowing myself to abuse my pain meds. Went thru 90 oxycodone 5mg pills in 2 days that was just my break thru med, along with oxycontin, ms contin, klonopin, the narcotic fog & isolation I put between myself, my family, & life in general was complete. Was soooo.. sick of pain, operations, counting pills, going from pill to pill loking for relief, I medicated myself hoping to never wake up. Funny I always did. It all came to a head when they pulled my pharamcy records drugs from 2 Doc's, cut off without a pill. My decision was to live or die on street drugs cause I wasn't gonna get drugs from a Doc. The wd was so very very bad!! For the first week my grown children came from out of town to help me, Insurance paid for 1 day in detox with was worthless, when I could finally get off the floor in agony, and out of the bathroom I turned to this site for help & understanding and I found it. I mostly just spent alot of time reading all the threads, I knew then that I was not alone and this could happen to anyone. I think that is why over the last days of fighting in here, have upset me cause if I had seen that from this site first I would never have stayed for help. I hope that hasn't been the case with others in trouble that saw the fighting and hatefullness. Anyone who would cause trouble in here, saying they are coming off of oxy, yea I feel great, is full of ****!!!!

and has proved it with post about goats and **** that don't help anyone at all. The people here are great and I thank you again. However I will lurk for a while till things get back to normal and give someone who needs help some space.



"HOPE FOR PAIN FREE DAYS & SWEET DREAMED FILLED NIGHTS'



Linda  {PoppyLover}

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