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Open thread

by mrmichael67, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
I am sorry this isn't a question, but we need room to post.
Member Comments (49)

by bmac, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: MrM / Everyone
Thanks MrM, and happy fathers day to you and all the dads here. I have my daugther and I am enjoying the time, they do growup so fast. Anyway have a great day!   Bill

by AmberHunter, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
that was cool! opened a thread just for chatting!



happy fathers day to all the dads that are here and to all the moms who are raising kids without a dad and are doing it all~



last week i had a dream that i was soooooooo thirsty and no matter how much i drank i could not relieve this intense thirst i had. and last night i had it again. i drank gallons of water, orange juice and milk! and i don't drink milk by itself. but in the dream i didn't even use a glass, drank it right out of the gallon jug... and once again could not relieve my thirst. this is pretty strange!



anybody here know anything interesting about dream symbols?



off to my moms house! mom and the kids don't know it but for the next 4 weeks we are going to be "excavating our authentic selves". i have a fun exercise that i want them to do with me!



peace,



amber

by doner, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: Mrm
Hey how are ya? An open thread cmon I never thought Id see the day on this crammed up forum. Good for you and the rest of us too.Day four and am still feeling good. I feel better with a lower dose on the recipe than I did with a higher dose and no recipe. Dont get me wrong I coudnt run a marathon or anything but I am taking a bike ride with my kids in awhile.Ive only been on the meth for 6-7 mos 80mgs for only about 4 wks then to 40 then to 20 and got stuck awhile. Could it be easier for me because I wasnt on it for very long? Dont get me wrong Im still waiting for that slap and Im comin cryin to you if I get it.Hope the weather is nice wherever you are and Happy fathers day to all.Melissa

by jack daniels, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: doner
Outstanding..keep up the good work...hark work pays off...Jack

by lisabet, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: AmberHunter
Hi Amber - go into google search and type in "meaning of dreams thirst" and you should be able to find your answer there.  Have a great day. I have some weird ass dreams sometimes, and I like to look them up, and this is what I use.  Love, Lisabet

by KimH, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
I am feeling kinda yucky today, Trying to kick this ultram again! You would think I like the withdrawel because I no sooner get off (or close to it) to do it again and again and again. I think I'm getting use to it, nah. I know people don't think it's real, but I have kicked dope 5yrs and a meth clinic I was on for two (liquid chains) I had to go to everyday! Why is it that people get sugar and choclate cravings? It's a good thing I'm not worried about weight. If I don't stop I will be. I feel like I have split personality! The difference between being high and being in W.D.'s are insane! I'm either eating healthy, or pure sugar, Lots of energy, or get dizy going to the next room. Looking all good going out on a friday night, or looking like I'm taking over for the grim reaper! Acting all sexy sweet and seductive, or like the pms ***** from hell and if you don't get out of my face I'll kill you! I'm happy and laughing, or so depressed I wont even answer the phone. I feel connecter to God,or like I'm going to burn in hell! I have had times where I have been sober for a while and was never like this. Yes, I'd get moody at certain times, but nothing some choclate wouldn't fix. Yes I'd get sad, but nothing a pint of icecream, a chick flick, and box of tissues wouldn't fix.I'm sick of this dr.Jeckel and Mr. Hide routine. I hope this is it. Thanks for letting me vent.  KimH

by Kurt Cobain, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: mrm, all
Wow. . .an open thread.  An idea whose time has definitely come.  And no one even reprimanded you for wasting space and the doctor's time.  I'm impressed.



Peace,



Kurt

by mrmichael67, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
Oh well if they did.  Not like we have had much room to post lately, thanks to you know who.

by mrmichael67, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: bill/doner
Thanks Bill.  Happy Father's Day to you and the other dads out there as well.



Doner,

Hopefully, you will continue to feel good.  The odds are, you will.  From here on out, do slow it down, though.  You have been on it long enough for you to be dependent.  There aren't any free rides.  Your body is probably loving the fact it is getting some nutrients.

by mrmichael67, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
I never waste space.  I am always to the point, as there is a KB limit on these threads.  No novels here.

by doner, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: MrM
Agreed. Before pills my bod was in top shape. Definitely needed the vitamins. thanks again as I hang on your every word. Take care,Melissa

by bmac, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
Well considering I take up half the kb's with my BS we need somemore room! Peace Cindy !But Thanks Alot! JK   Bill

by tallented2, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
Hi everyone, new here new to this whole thing actually, I am looking for advice to help my father. He just came to me yeaterday and told me he needed help, he is addicted to cocaine, and after i picked myself up off the floor i said what now. I have no clue what to do to help him. He wants to quit, i stayed with him for a few hours last night as he went through withdrawl and it was so horrible to watch, let alone feel i want to know if there are things to make it easier for him. He is a 40 something year old with high blood pressure to start he also has nervous twitches even withouth the withdrawl, but they were so bad last night i thought he was going to fall out of his chair.

He wants to do a little "just to take off the edge" but this does not seem like the logical thing to me but having never been through this i do not know, the hardest thing I ever gave up was pot, and for me being pregnant was enough to give me the will to do that. I love him and I hate watching him go through it is there anything that helps? With no insurance in patient treatment is out and out patient also for that matter.Any advice will be appreciated, thank you.

by motox4fun01, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: MrMichael/Donner
I have been on methadone about 8 days now and have gone from 20mgs (day one) to 8mgs today. I have 30mgs left and plan to stop after i have weaned down with the remaining 30mgs.

I was taking 80mgs IV oxy when i began this detox with methadone. Do you think i will be successful when i stop the meth or should i expect w/d to start soon after the meth is gone from my system? Should i begin the thomas recipe now? i have the ingrediants except for the benzo. It has been painless so far. I am begining to worry though since my taper is almost finished.

James

by motox4fun01, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: tallented2
Are you sure he is not dependent on any other drugs besides cocaine? The symptoms you describe don't sound like cocaine w/d's to me. Sounds like opiates. I never had w/d's from cocaine except for craving it a little. Maybe i am wrong, but ask if he takes opiates too.

James

by sandstorm, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: tallented2
I know I am new to the board,  but the high blood pressure caught my eye so I had to chime in.  Hopefully, you can persuade him to get some medical help, you cannot play around with high bp and withdrawals.  I will be thinking of you.  I'm sure you will get loads of help and advice from all of these nice people.

Take care,

Sandy

by rodewc, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: Golden1~ Ev'one
The "open thread" here is perfect. I have been cruising message boards this past hour, and am laffing at the melodrama on another board. People, maybe especially druggies??, are so defensive. It is a hoot (sometimes). You can't argue w/ fools or kids though. I did get a belly laff reading that fight tho, especially since the main culprit is Queen of Drama. Sorry, rambling.. open thread is kewl. I Don't feel guilty about rambling.



Thanks for the advice @ the dog, Golden. It wasn't worms. I think it was steak, chicken,, cat food, wet cat food ham and ham-hock. I shoulda known better. I did finally call the pharmacist and vet and found that Imodium was ok to give the puppy. IF the Imodium made a difference, I wulda hated to see the puppy w/o it. She was sick almost 3 days but got her energy back today. Thx for the suggestion. I am overly leery of spoiling the pup w/ table scarps now. A lesson learned, an expensive lesson. The Rugs!



MrM, thx to you for opening up a space just to check in.



I don't have any advice for the 2 probs/concerns mentioned in this thread. I, too, have noticed mainly cravings w/ peeps W/Drawing from coke, but that was a long time ago. The sweats and the rest do sound like Narcs.



Today has been a euphoric day clean. When these days happen, it is as wondrous as the first times high on dope. Maybe knowing that these days do come around will be enuf to keep me away from pills forever, I hope, hope, hope.



`rwc`

by mrmichael67, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: motox
You should do 7mg tomorrow, then 6mg, then 5mg, then 4mg, then 3mg, then 2mg, then 2mg again, then 1mg.  I would say after that, you will experience the least amount of withdrawals possible with what you have available to you.  I am not going to say how bad it will be because it is impossible for me to say that.  But, it will be less than if you went cold turkey from the oxy when you stopped it.  I know that for a fact.  You are going to have discomfort.  Unfortunately, no one gets a free ride.  But, you should do fine.  What is positive is the fact you are feeling ok now being on such a small dose of the methadone.  That is very reassuring.

by mrmichael67, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: doner
Can you email me at ***@****?  If you don't mind, I would like to "discuss" something with you.  Thanks.

by mrmichael67, Jun 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: tallented2
I have to agree with motox.  It doesn't sound like he is coming off of cocaine to me.  Cocaine doesn't produce physical withdrawal symptoms like that.

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