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Dealing with the pain and loss of dignity associated with addiction

by zoe1, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
I hope that I don't offend anyone with this posting.  That isn't my intention.  I just feel that this story is worth sharing.  And, I do also have a question that directly relates to addiction.  



I myself am not an addict.  I lurk and read your posts; it helps me to understand.  I feel that I know you.



For several years, I was in a relationship with a gentleman who became addicted to opiates (oxy). He didn't have pain but was just abusing drugs.  We were very much in love and at one time engaged to be married.  He was a successful professional and to outsiders appeared to have the perfect life.  But inside, he was always struggling.  He fought the addiction.  He went through treatment several times and tried attending both AA and NA.  Eventually I had to end our relationship because I could no longer deal with the "craziness"... but I never stopped loving him.  He took a leave of absence from work and spent last summer on a big bender (we worked together).  That ended with getting arrested at a drug house and sent to treatment.  After that he came back to work.  He was clean from drugs (I think) but heavily abusing alcohol.  His work suffered A LOT.  He bleached his hair and let his physical appearance go.  He got several DUIs.  



On March 3, he didn't show up for work.  His manager and another co-worker went to his house to check on him and found him in his bed.  He'd shot himself in the head.  I went to the hospital and sat with him until he died later that day.  



This disease kills.  Now those left behind suffer.  Please don't allow it to take more lives.  -J
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by zoe1, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: Dr
Thank you for your compasionate response.  I can honestly say that I don't blame myself for what happened.  All I ever did was love him.  I know other's who judged and said or did things that they now regret and can never take back.  I've been attending 12-step programs for myself for a few years now and learned that I could love him and still hate the drugs.  There were times when he said terribly unkind things and tried to blame me and others for his pain, but I know that was the addiction talking.



It scares me that I see the same behaviours in the posts of some of the "regulars" here.  I feel that a part of this disease is the tendency to blame others for your feelings rather than taking responsibilty for your own happiness.  I know that the addict I loved often allowed things that I considered inconsequencial (even the rather offensive things that I've seen posted here) to affect him in a SEVERE way.  It just isn't worth it... life is short enough as-is.  Why waste any of the precious time obsessing over something someone else says, does, or feels that you have no control over.  Why not slow down and see the beauty in the world around us?  Just appreciate the little things.  Life hurts a lot less when you let go of the pain.  I often watched him self-medicate to try to escape reality.  



Oh well...  I'll get off my soapbox now.  I wish you all the best.

by Nana42, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
I hope I'm doing the right thing in sharing a few beliefs that I have.  I've had them throughout my entire life...and I pray that I don't offend anyone...but, after reading Zoe1's message, I feel compelled to write it down...hoping to share some GOOD and POSSITIVE aspects of being an addict (hard to believe there actually are any, right?).  I consider myself to be an 'Old Soul'.  I haven't been around that long, but have lead many lifetimes in this one already.  The belief I have is what I call..."The Toolbelt Of Life".



We are all born with a 'Toolbelt'.  It is empty, except for a couple of 'tools' that God gives us a birth...crying to let our parents know when we're unhappy and smiling to let our parents know when we're happy.  Besides that, there's not much in there.



As we go through life, we have the OPPORTUNITY to pick up 'tools' along the way and place them in our 'toolbelt'.  Good times bring the easy tools and we willingly and happily grab up those tools and proudly put them in our toolbelt.  We pull them out when we want to share an uplifting story or event that happened to us.  As important as those 'tools' are...they are not the most useful when it comes to helping others...and it seems that there are so many people in this world with toolbelts FULL of those types of tools...God Bless Them for such a simple, uncomplicated life.  However, I've found that many of those people have absolutely no compassion or even tolorence for those of us who have chosen (or simply found ourselves on) a different path.



The bad or difficult times in our lives are another story and the 'tools' from these experiences are worth more than all the gold in the world.  However, with that said, it seems that there are a lot of people out there that have gone through wicked-aweful times, yet they don't have these tools in their toolbelts, either. What they went through hurt them so much that when they did come out on the other end of it, they actually resented having had the experience or the pain was just too overwhelming that they couldn't even LOOK at the tool, let alone CLAIM IT and put it in their toolbelt.  Instead, they made the choice to ignore it or simply toss it to the side...feeling ashamed or ignorant for ever getting themselves into the situation in the first place.  BUT ... These are the most useful, powerful and life-changing tools that one can possess!



Where am I going with this?  Well, look at what all of us have gone through.  For some of us it has been hell...for others the hell is upon us at this very moment...and for even others the hell awaits us, nawing at our very core, afraid that the pills will run out, or we'll die before we get ahold of this damn addiction.  BUT ALAS!  This is the only truly POSSITIVE thing that we can take with us from this whole ordeal.  Because of this,  our compassion for others is so strong that we feel completely compelled to reach out to someone else who is going through their own hell and say "I know"..."I've been there"..."It WILL be ok, just trust me and let me help".  OUR TOOLBELTS ARE FULL!



So as to not take up any more space here...I'll just close in saying that...We have SO MANY TOOLS in our toolbelts that can truly help others!  THANK GOD for the wonderful people here and for the way that they have taken this 'tool' borne out of dispair and depression, anxiety and pain, and have chosen to put it in their 'toolbelt' for the good of mankind, rather than hiding their past pain and ignoring the benefits that can be had through them!  



Zoe1, you now have a new 'tool' as well.  You have been through hurt and pain and loss of a loved one.  Be sure to take that tool and place it in your toolbelt.  You will be able to help so many others who are right now walking in the shoes you wore down that perverbial path of loving an addict.



Just the musings of a tormented soul....



Peace and in One service,

Nana



ps.  Hope I didn't offend anyone...it was NOT my intent.

by zoe1, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: nana42
Yes.. you're absolutely right about the toolbelt.  And about the goodness in the hearts of addicts.  I truly feel blessed and thankful for the years I was able to share with the addict I loved.  He was a wonderful, and extremely caring human being.   As a result of what I've seen and experienced, I am MUCH more spiritual and feel that I can now live a fuller life.  I want to be someone he'd be proud of... something good must come from this.

by Nana42, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: Zoe1
You're truly amazing.  I love you.  Thank you for sharing your experience with us...and always...be gentle with yourself.



Nana

by sandstorm, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: Zoe and Nana
Zoe,

Thank you so much for sharing with us.  It really made me cry.  You are a wonderful and special person and you do have so much to offer.  He was so blessed to have you.

Thank you again and you will be added to my prayer list.

Take care,

Sandy



Nana,

You are also a very special person.   Your post was so uplifting and you are absolutely right.  I would not trade anything for what I have been through, because I would not be the person I am today.  When you go through really bad and dark times and you come out of it,  you can really see how beautiful life can be.  I made up my mind last night to start volunteering and give back what I have been blessed with. I am so glad you got things straighened out with your doctor.  I will be thinking of you.

Take care,

Sandy   Good luck to all of us!

by terter, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
I am not trying to beat this in the ground but I need some help. I hear that Bup. is addictive, What do you guys think a safe time frame to use to get over the w/d. All docs are differant. I just want to be educated so I don't get my butt in trouble with a new addiction. Has any one used this before? I read the thread before this one but that individual only used it a couple of days and someone suggested longer, If ANYONE has heard of info or used it before PLEASE respond. I used Hydro 20 a day.

by Topher, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
First off, this is my first time posting here.  When I try to start a new thread it says that the site can only have "x" amount of new topics a day because of lack of manpower.  So I apologize for breaking in on this thread...



My question is rather strange.  Regardless of my path here, I'm here.  But the reason for my addiction hasn't been addressed on any thread, so maybe you can give me some insight.  I'm terrified of dreaming.  Not so much bad dreams, just dreams in general.  I found out a long time ago that if I took vicoden, then I didn't dream (or acknowledge the dream.  And typical, the longer I took it, the more I needed.  I'm up to 20 a day, chased with 3-4 Unisom sleeping pills.



I've tried Valium and other benzo's, and I still dream.  Not sure how to break this cycle.  I know I want to quit (who doesn't), but then I DON'T want to quit because the hell of taking medication is not worse than the hell of dreaming.  Yes, I'm working with a doc on the mental aspect (why I'm afraid), and while I hope for long term results, it doesn't help with the short term.  So I keep medicating.



I feel like I'm in a Nightmare on Elm Street movie.



What is it about Vicoden specifically that keeps you from dreaming/ acknowledging dreams, but still feeling rested?



by bmac, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: zoe1
Your story was so real to me. I have been where he was, believe me. I had the tools to die also and almost chose that way but I stopped because some of us have the ability to stop and change the direction we travel. Everyone should know that you can change this thing we suffer from. Addiction isnt a death sentence unless you let it happen. Zoe1, I hope you know that all of us arent 'just' using, My using is because of my Chronic Pain comdition but yes I am an addict. I could just be a loser and die in a dope house like he did bascially and it is a scareyass thing to think about but thank you for posting and sharing this with us, maybe someone will see this and rethink their own lives, thank God I did 8 months ago because I would have joined him. Great story!

                   Bmac

by zoe1, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: bmac § all
I'm glad that you were able to change the direction of your life for the better.  I would never take it upon myself to judge you or anyone else for what they put into their own body.  For whatever reason.  I'm just one little person who struggles to get myself up in the morning and live my own life.  



It is terribly difficult to watch someone who can't do that self-destruct.  I prefer not to think of my former fiance as a "loser".... rather, I see him as a very ill person.  He just couldn't find a way out.  



BUT, I think it is important to clarify what I think of as his "illness".  He often said things like "you would never leave me if I had cancer -- why leave me if I use?".  I don't see choosing to abuse drugs in the same way as I see cancer.  Rather, I see it as an illness similar to a compulsion to run a car into a tree.  The 1st time he did it, I pulled him out and nursed him to health (risking my own safety).. I did the same the 2nd time but with reservations... the 3rd time, I left him to pull himself out (I didn't want to be burned again)... finally, he continued to run into the tree and was unable to pull himself out.  



In open NA meetings that I attended (yes, even non-addicts are welcomed in the *open* meetings here -- I truly love some of those guys), I often heard that you either quit abusing drugs or you end up in jail, institution, or dead.  Its scary but true.



The same goes for everyone.. either we take responsibility for our own actions or we don't.  Either we live life to the fullest or we don't.  Either we allow others to pull us down, or we don't.  Its simple concept -- but harder to really live.

by KimH, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
WOW! this is one heavy forum today! I guess I will share as well, that is how we learn about eachother right? I use to be suicidal as well. Actually, 4 yrs ago, I tried to kill myself! This was the time I was on herion, methadone,pot, alcohol, just everything! I tried and tried to stop but couldn't. I pulled over on the side of the road (I can't believe I'm sharing this) anyway I figured my family would be better off because yes, they would be sad for a while, but they would get over it and It would be less painful in the long run because they wouldn't have to worry anymore! I figured I ought to pray before I kill myself just in case right? So I said "God please just take me, put me out of my misery! Please hurry and end my suffering!" He did. Just not the way I thought. I got arrested after putting way too many drugs into my system. My being arrested saved my life and was the best thing that ever happened to me. I decided to surrender my will to God because I gave up! I couldn't do it!I got to know my Lord,to whome I owed my life. I got off everything! I got to see so many miracles in my life if was exciting and almost scarry in a good way! I knew he was there! Is there! I got my family back, a great career, schooling, my health, and most of all my self! He showed me I'm not a piece of garbage that should be thrown into the garbage! I am a proud strengthened christian and proof that Jesus is a savior!



I don't always do everything right! I still get my self into stupied situations like taking these tramadol foolishly when I knew I should have put them down (and I could have)! But he is still here for me. I am glad I have my faith to comfort me because I today am afraid to kill myself because of it. I'm not quite ready to meet him yet!   KimH

by sandstorm, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: KimH
I am so proud of you and with as much faith as you have you will make it through those awful little white "demons". Keep posting!  Thank you for sharing!

Take care,

Sandy

by Sugarbeens, Jun 18, 2003 12:00AM
Hi everyone. Haven't posted for a while, but, I will tell a story that even I should have thought about before starting taking perscription narcotics for pain relief at age 40.  When my best friend who was 30, we were the same age and went to H.S. together, was missing for a week, they found her by the river in her car, she had put a gun in her mouth and killed herself.  A few years later I visited the state we were from and where she had still lived until her death.  I went to see her mom.  My friend, worked for a while in a emergency room in the small town.  She was divorced from her first husband and had 3 little girls by him  She married an intern at the hospital.  He go her addicted to drugs.  Left her.  She went back home to her mom, couldn't get off the drugs, left a suicide note and took her own life. Although I hadn't seen her for a few years, I just didn't get it.  I never knew her to even drink.  So I should have been smart, since my pain I have had since age 23, but, man when they gave me vicoden and the pain went away and I had more confidence and energy, I started using more and more.  But, I have never done any illegally.  I get my meds from my doc, but, I am ready to going back to being me  I go through withdrawal every month as I run out a week early, and I know that wll kill me eventually.  Plus, no matter what or who I am, I want to really be me again.  I may have to take anxiety meds off and on, because I think that is one of my major problems.  But, boy, they are addictive too.  I can't stop all right now, because of my job and preparing for a big summer, so as soon as summer is over, no more painkillers, or maybe 10 a month for severe, severe pain. I am going todo this.  For me!!!  And for all those who love me.  I have heard so may horror stories lately , that life without painkillers has to be better.  I will deal with my pain some other way,more exercise