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| lost in carolina 3/11/2007 | . | I am so lost. I have been taking lortabs for a few years. I have been addicted for about a year and a half. I take 10-15 a day (7.5 or 10). I am prescribed a few every couple of months and support my habit by buying off the street. I have thought about talking to my doctor about it but I have 3 children. I learned a couple of years ago to NEVER confide in my doctor. During a custody battle, my medical records were subponeaed. There was nothing incriminating then, but if for some reason we end up back in court, records proving that I am an addict could cost me my kids. I really want to quit taking pills. I was given 10 methadone pills by a "friend". I have never taken methadone and have heard different things. Will these 10 help me over the next couple of days. I took my last lortab about 3 hours ago and am hoping that will be my last EVER! Has anyone tried any vitamen combination? Is there anything that will help this craving and the withdrawals I am so scared of experiencing? Thank you for your help. I am so scared. |
| helpmecope 3/11/2007 C1 | lost in carolina | I was taking 15 Lortab 10's for 3 years ago and 4 months ago started taking Oxycontin with the Vicodins. I quit the Lortabs 9 days ago. The first week was the hardest, I have 3 children and I decided that I was going to quit. You will be fine, you have to want to quit and it sounds like you do. My email is rhammondf46032@aol.com if you want to email me. I also stopped smoking 2 weeks ago yesterday. I feel so much better now. I feel like I am getting my life back. I take 2 20 mg Oxycontins a day. I don't know anything about methadone. I didn't take anything the first week, I just hurt all over like the flu and my stomach hurt and I sweated. You will be happy you did it. |
| tink1517 3/11/2007 C2 | lost in carolina | there is a Thomas recipe that is a vitamin type body detox. as for the methadaone. yes, it will help with w/d's from the hydro, but then you'll have to w/d from the methadaone. i'm not sure how bad it is if you only take 10 of them, but either way you will have W/D's. i know that it takes 5-7 days approx. for the hydro to get out of your system and 30-60 days for the methadone. MY ADVISE: leave the methadone alone, the last thing you want to do is trade up from one addiction to another. i 've been taking 10-15 hydro's 10mg for the past 5yrs. at one point i was up to 30 a day. your in the right place here, there \s alot of support, caring and understanding here. i dont knoe were i would be right now if it ewasnt for the ppl here on this forum. for me i went c/t for the 3rd time 4weeks ago, got thru the w/d's and then a week later needed a pain pill for legite pain. everyone here has there own approach and way of doing this., but we are all working on reaching the same goal. so please read as many posts as you can, think thru all the different ways ppl here have done this and then decide whats the best "fit for you" i'm always here, please post back and let me know how your doing. you can always yahoo IM me, its the same screen name i have here. remember to take "baby steps" tink |
| jenny07 3/11/2007 C4 | addicted | Hey, I found this and thought you may like to read it. I cut and pasted it from a site about methadone...Its a man's personal story about what he went through when he wasn't able to get the methadone into his body. Methadone is pretty dangerous stuff and as far as the 10 you have, I think you should just flush those down the toilet and not even get started on them. You read this and decide: Personal Stories of Methadone Withdrawals: I've been on both ends of withdrawals, heroin and methadone, every patient of methadone will always tell you the same, as I do; I can kick heroin anytime, but methadone that is something else. In 15 yrs of heroin addiction, I've kicked 3 times, 'cold-turkey'. In 10 years on methadone I've never kicked methadone. Once I landed in jail, I had to do 72 hours of jail time before I got to see the judge. I was literally on the floor screaming my guts out. About 12 hours before I was to see the judge, I demanded to be taken to the hospital, I just couldn't take it. I was cuffed, and looking like a 'chair' was glued to my back, I limped to the ambulance, since I couldn't lift my leg to climb into the back, the police grabbed me on both sides and shoved me in like a sack of potatoes, I fell flat on my face. The doctor, realizing my condition and that it was severe, gave me a shot of methadone. The relief was immediate. I was returned to the precinct and 2 days later I was in the same condition! Never did I go through such hell in all my days. The intensity of methadone withdrawal is just too much! I could never do it. By the way, about 5 years ago one inmate went into convulsions and upon falling, he hit the metal bars and died! |
| jenny07 3/11/2007 C5 | ADDICTED TO LORTABS PLEASE READ THIS! | Hey, I found this, too and really thought you should check it out...methadone is NO joke honey and you need to think of your kids before you start taking these little white devils...(alot of people don't like me on this board, because we disagree on things, BUT I know that meth is nothing to play around with, my friend got so strung out on them once, she nearly died, and now she is a 30yr. old woman learning how to TIE her shoes all over again, if you get my drift.) Meth isn't like the opiate pills you are taking now. Meth is MUCH more dangerous and potent and if you haven't been prescribed them by an actual DOCTOR, then you need to just FLUSH THEM NOW. Those 10 you have....flush them, and read this: ------------------------------------ THE DANGERS OF METHADONE..... Following is an article by two doctors addressing this question. Is methadone more likely to kill you than heroin? By Drs Marcel Buster & Giel van Brussel, MD Municipal Health Service Amsterdam Based on literature and analysis of mortality figures Dr Russell Newcombe concluded that methadone programmes as a form of harm-reduction possibly cause more victims than they prevent. We have doubts whether the conclusion about methadone is fully justified. Looking at the mentioned literature gives a one-sided view at the problem. Moreover, the conclusions drawn are beyond those justified by the results of the analyses. Several points of debate come to mind: Methadone is not an innocent substance; 'one's methadone maintenance dose is another's poison' (2). A regular user of opiates develops a certain tolerance. Therefore, it is possible that a tolerant person can function normally with dosages which can be fatal to a non-tolerant person. Also, methadone dosage in the case of first entry to the programme has to be evaluated carefully. It is wise to begin with a low dosage that has to be increased slowly in the course of weeks or even months. At entry to the programme it has to be carefully evaluated whether a patient has a clear and unambiguous heroin dependence. In methadone maintenance programmes, methadone is dispensed to tolerant persons, moreover, this tolerance remains high because of daily use of methadone. Therefore, it is not surprising that deaths at the King's College Hospital caused by methadone were not those of participants of a methadone maintenance programme but were those of 'recreational' users of illicit methadone. In cases where more than one drug is used, the drug responsible for death due to overdose is difficult to establish. Moreover, the same drug prescribed by physicians can also be bought on the street. In seventy percent of the deaths due to overdose studied in Glasgow and Edinburgh a combination of different drugs was found (3). Prescribed drugs such as temazepam were often encountered in deaths in Glasgow. However, among only 14 of the 34 persons who died in 1992 and where temazepam was found, this was prescribed by their physician. Because of the presence of other drugs it is not clear whether temazepam really caused the death of these people. Probably the combination of these different drugs was fatal to them. This was also the case with the methadone deaths in Edinburgh. However, in Edinburgh, the authors could not determine whether methadone was prescribed or not. Both Hammersley and Obafunwa report that heroin/morphine deaths seldom occur in Edinburgh (4). 'The fall of the deaths due to overdose in the Lothian and Borders Region of Scotland (LBRS) after 1984 reflects in part the strict policing that took place, in particular in the Edinburgh area'. 'The increase of methadone deaths is probably due to the introduction of a street trend to use this agent as a substitute to heroin'. The author suggests that methadone deaths are mainly caused by the use of illicit methadone. Therefore, these figures suggest that participants of methadone programmes are at lower risk of death due to overdose. However, this does not mean that methadone is an innocent substance. The high and increasing number of methadone deaths in Britain is alarming and certainly needs more attention. The first priority should be to establish whether the methadone causing death has been prescribed within a methadone programme or bought on the street. It also should be evaluated at what point during the course of the methadone programme death takes place. Further instruction doctors prescribing methadone could be necessary. The use of non-prescribed methadone without medical supervision can lead to high risks, especially when it is used as a substitute for heroin in order to get a 'high' instead of to prevent withdrawal symptoms. Physicians have to be aware of this danger and they should make sure that the prescribed methadone (as well as other psycho-active drugs) does not end up in the 'grey market'. |
| tink1517 3/11/2007 C6 | LOST & JENNY | methadone is very dangerous. i have been battling with pain pills for 5yrs, mostly lorcet 10/650 10-15 tabs a day. 4 yrs ago, METHADONE was the way to go, created for heroin addicts it became the "miracle pill" for ppl addicted to pain pills, since they are opiate based. i never went the methadone route, i just dont see the reasoning in "trading one addiction for another" now 4 yrs later i thank god i never went on methadone when so many ppl tried to push me that way. its highly addictive, takes 30-60 days (thats 2-3 MONTHS) to get out of your system, the w/d's are 10 times worse than from pain pills. now today the new answer is Suboxone, and i have seen many have great success, but what will the long term damage be??? will it turn out the same as methadone??? we all have to take the route that we feel in OUR HEART is best for us, and you WILL NOT be judged on this site for the way you choose to take (although we do seem to have a few strong minded ppl here right now)LOL All that matters is that you've made a BIG STEP by posting, admitting your addiction and seeking help. we will support you all the way through, and answer any questions the best we can. if your not ready to stop today, thats ok too, it takes some ppl awile to decide how they want to quit and muster up the strength to do so, we will still support you anyways. so please keep asking questions, posting and moving forward. always remember it takes"BABY STEPS" JENNY: it's not that you are disliked, but you came accross the wrong way last night. we are all very forgiving here, so please forgive me for what i've said to you. this is a family to me and others feel the same. and we all know that a family protects eachother and loves eachother. there's been way to much fighting and bickering the last few days and we are ALL FED UP, so your situation last night had alot to do w/ bad timing. i'm glad to see you back. tink |
| jenny07 3/11/2007 C7 | sorry i was posting to you under the thread name.. | OOOPS, sorry...I was posting to you with your THREAD name instead of your s/n. sorry...well, anyway I hope you still read the posts I looked up for you on methadone. And I'll remember now to post 'lost in carolina' to you instead of 'addicted to lortabs' Again, sorry for the mix up. |
| jenny07 3/11/2007 C8 | TINK | JENNY: it's not that you are disliked, but you came accross the wrong way last night. we are all very forgiving here, so please forgive me for what i've said to you. this is a family to me and others feel the same. and we all know that a family protects eachother and loves eachother. there's been way to much fighting and bickering the last few days and we are ALL FED UP, so your situation last night had alot to do w/ bad timing. i'm glad to see you back. tink ---------------------- Ahem, I'm sure I don't have the faintest idea of what you are talking about...after all, I am new here... ;) But if I DID know what you were talking about, then I guess I would have to tell you I accept your apology and would offer one of my own, too. :) BUT, like I said, I'm new here, just registered a little while ago..... shhhhhhhhhhhhh......... ;) |
| addictedtoloratab 3/11/2007 C9 | Lost | Welcome, I know just what your talking about, thats my screen name, lol.. I agree, the Thomas Recipe is worth trying. There are a few members here that have tried suboxone and that stops the w/ds. They gave me one when I was in detox, it was subutex and I felt like a new person. You have to go to special doctors for this and how can they get your records if they dont know that you went. Still, it looks good for you because you are trying to stop... We are all here for you, you can do it whichever way you decide, Welcome with huggs, G |
| NewYorkChick 3/11/2007 C10 | . | What is the Thomas recipe? Has anyone ever used it? And does it really work? |
| addictedtoloratab 3/11/2007 C11 | New York and lost | New York, I posted to you below, earlier. I will look it up and paste it for you guys. Its not a miracle. Nothing is going to stop the lack to energy and how crappy you feel, but, it does ease the withdrawls. I will look it up for you, give me a few... | [Thread closed to new comments] |
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