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how serious is my compulsive drinking and what can I do?

by estrelagal, Apr 04, 2007 12:00AM
Hello.

I am male, 33, 5’10”, 155lbs.

I began weekend binge drinking at 17 around the age of 21. It caused me moderate hangovers and regular cases of memory loss and regret over drunken behaviour. Later, while living alone for two years, I began to drink alone when lonely or depressed. After getting married I continued as before and began to seize any opportunity (e.g. on business trips) to go out alone and get blind drunk. I’ve also started drinking too much at family gatherings, and drinking alone beforehand.

A typical Saturday: 3 beers before lunch, ˝ bottle of wine with lunch and a couple of shots; a couple of afternoon beers, in the evening more wine and beer. I get an extra beer when nobody’s looking.

I now only get memory loss on the solo outings. Hangovers involve shaking (I have essential tremor), insecurity and poor concentration (not headaches or bad stomach).

Booze hits me very suddenly. One minute I'm fine, the next I'm slurring and uncoordinated.

I lead a healthy lifestyle in terms of diet and exercise. My annual company medical shows no liver problems. I don’t drink every day, but associate it with weekends and social occasions.

I’ve often tried to moderate, but to no avail. I bought a book on “safe social drinking” which I found useless.

By now I've probably done myself some physical damage, gained a reputation as a drunkard and alienated my wife.

Quitting sounds sensible, but I don't want to. I enjoy a glass of good wine with a meal, or a cold beer with a friend. I would become miserable and tend to avoid situations I associate with drinking, i.e. my social life.

Limiting it seems like a good solution, but I'm not sure how long I'll keep it up before the inevitable relapse.

So, anyway, I'd appreciate any comments and advice.
Member Comments (8)

by LIZZIE LOU, Apr 04, 2007 12:00AM
how serious is your drinking?  sometimes our words can answer our own questions...re-read your post and ask yourself that question.  you do not have to drink daily to have a problem or be an alcoholic.

are you wanting to stop or are you asking if you can continue drinking but with "control"?

by Yoda99, Apr 04, 2007 12:00AM
To: estrelagal
I have an "addictive" personality.  That means I get easily addicted and can never just have one.  It's either all or nothing.
Like Lizzie Lou said, read your post.  It's very revealing to us and should be to you also.  And keep in mind, that even binge drinking does serious damage to your liver.
If you want to quit, this is one of the places to come to and we will help you.  We are all addicts or recovering addicts from various addictions.
Good luck,
Yoda

by athena-8, Apr 04, 2007 12:00AM
there are a lot of studies that suggest that people w/alcohol proplems metabolize liquor differently than others. Hence the continued compulsion when it gets into the system, and eventually, a formed dependence and inability to "control" how much they put in their bodies and what happens when they do. have you ever tried to quit or control it? if you have and it didn't work so well, you may be one of these people. I am, and I too hated the idea of stopping. yet once I did, I discovered it was just easier all around to not have alcohol in my life. Period.  i soon discovered my friends could really care less whether i drank with them at parties; in fact most of them confided they were very happy I quit. try and access the damage you may have done and look honestly at the negative consequences it may have created in your life. you mentioned a few, and perhaps there's more, i don't know. weigh those out against that glass (or if you are like me--bottle) of full-bodied Cab with an amzing bouquet and ask yourself is it really worth it. having a drinking problem and choosing to quit really isn't the worst thing in the world. but if you're like me, it takes true diligence to stay stopped, and avoid picking up another addiction (for me, pills--that's why I'm here). there are many resources available out there to help you; whatever you do, please don't do it cold turkey cuz you can die.
and also, don't dis 12-Step programs until you've given them a try. In 2000, AA was touted as one of the top five most profound spiritual movements of the 20th Century--or something like that. i don't know you, and perhaps this sounds like a horrible honor, but i find it quite amazing. Good Luck to you. i hope we can help you in some way here.
--athena

by CATUF, Apr 04, 2007 12:00AM
Stop by a few open AA meetings.  My guess is that you will relate well to a lot of what you hear in there.  Your drinking pattern sounds a lot like mine was.  I don't live like that anymore and you don't have to either.

Here's a bit from Chapter 3 of AA's Big Book:
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Most of us have been unwilling to admit we were real alcoholics. No person likes to think he is bodily and mentally different from his fellows. Therefore, it is not surprising that our drinking careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts to prove we could drink like other people. The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.
We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics. This is the first step in recovery. The delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed.

We alcoholics are men and women who have lost the ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals usually brief were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.

We are like men who have lost their legs; they never grow new ones. Neither does there appear to be any kind of treatment which will make alcoholics of our kind like other men. We have tried every imaginable remedy. In some instances there has been brief recovery, followed always by a still worse relapse. Physicians who are familiar with alcoholism agree there is no such thing a making a normal drinker out of an alcoholic. Science may one day accomplish this, but it hasn't done so yet.

Despite all we can say, many who are real alcoholics are not going to believe they are in that class. By every form of self- deception and experimentation, they will try to prove themselves exceptions to the rule, therefore nonalcoholic. If anyone who is showing inability to control his drinking can do the right-about- face and drink like a gentleman, our hats are off to him. Heaven knows, we have tried hard enough and long enough to drink like other people!

Here are some of the methods we have tried: Drinking beer only, limiting the number of drinks, never drinking alone, never drinking in the morning, drinking only at home, never having it in the house, never drinking during business hours, drinking only at parties, switching from scotch to brandy, drinking only natural wines, agreeing to resign if ever drunk on the job, taking a trip, not taking a trip, swearing off forever (with and without a solemn oath), taking more physical exercise, reading inspirational books, going to health farms and sanitariums, accepting voluntary commitment to asylums we could increase the list ad infinitum.

We do not like to pronounce any individual as alcoholic, but you can quickly diagnose yourself, step over to the nearest barroom and try some controlled drinking. Try to drink and stop abruptly. Try it more than once. It will not take long for you to decide, if you are honest with yourself about it. It may be worth a bad case of jitters if you get a full knowledge of your condition.
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The Big Book is available on-line at http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/index.html

by dyblue, Apr 04, 2007 12:00AM
drinking like that is a form of alcohol addiction if your blcking out thats a real bad sign maybe you'll quit when you really screw up like kill someone or something booze is the worst drug  because its legal doesn't mean its ok some politician just wanted his cocktail after work.  I didn't think I was a drunk until I went to a AA meeting and I sais I'm a druggie and a drunk the havoc it plays on your body if you want  to look good amnd feel good when your older don't drink kills a lot of brain cells when you black out too if you don't want tp quit well don't your an adult but some part of you must or ypu wouldn't be writing this. youy want a big red vieny nose when your old and get really fat just kkeep drinking.  I quit because I had alcoholod and it was horrid.

by dyblue, Apr 04, 2007 12:00AM
my dad used to get drunk awhen I was a kid and I thought it turned him into a baby its weird youre perceptions of drunkeness when your a kid.  I used ti drink alot working in bars and when I hung out with a drunk I was a drunk you are the company you keep.  I'm sure your wife doesn't like it . maybe your depressed or something do you have to drink to have a good time someone said that to me and I said yes.  in aa they say going to a bar for a 7up is like going to a ***** house for a kiss .  I miss aa it was great specially when they had a oldtimer talk.  you might enjoy a aa meeting .  I went to them for quite awhile liked it better then na. check it out sorry if I sound harsh Its just the way I talk no offence to you just can relate a little good luck.

by estrelagal, Apr 09, 2007 12:00AM
Thanks for your replies. I’ve been offline a few days.

Sure, my ideal solution would be to continue drinking with “control”, i.e. enjoy a drink, pace myself, stop when in danger of getting drunk.

I already do this to some extent. I’m not trying to make excuses, but to try to explain my situation, because I am somewhat mystified by it.
I live in a country where alcohol is cheap and widely available, people drink a lot but don’t often get drunk (pace themselves). I grew up in a country where booze was expensive and of limited availability.
I feel no urge to drink during the week. If I do it’s just an occasional beer with friends, and absolutely no urge to continue afterwards.
Then the weekend comes. I associate relaxation and the weekend with drinking. Saturday, 2–3 beers while out shopping and cooking, another couple (or ˝ bottle wine) with lunch, 3–4 late afternoon with friends, 2–3 (or wine) with dinner, and if I go out at night (once a month) a whole lot more. Same on Sunday.
I rarely get totally blitzed. Even those solo business trip sessions are never that extreme. This may be to do with only really drinking beer.

The blackouts take the form of not really remembering, then someone mentioning something and me thinking “Oh yeah, that sounds familiar”.

I think I may have low tolerance. After 4–5 beers my wife notices in my speech/movements.

I know this can’t be doing my liver and brain much good. I feel paranoid and unable to concentrate on Mondays, with a tight feeling under my ribs.

I’m wary of subscribing to AA’s description of an alcoholic. I haven’t had a drink for a week now, and never felt more than a slight urge to have one, despite being in the company of drinkers, as I’ve decided not to drink at all this month and see what happens. I certainly didn’t get any adverse cold turkey symptoms. Quite the opposite – I feel good.

I guess I just want to know why I feel the need to do what I do at weekends and when I’m away on trips, and just how much damage I’m doing myself.

by veelainil, Feb 05, 2008 10:50PM
To: whomever
How do I overcome my addiction when the love of my life denies the addiction and his family celebrates it and my family treats is as the death sentencace?  I'm addicted like my family but linked to a family that celebrates it, I've never been so depressed. ever.
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