I am sorry to hear about your backBack pain - low
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Back strain treatment if I was you I would consider cold turkey only because I know that their is no guesswork you don't have to wonder if you will be sickSick sinus syndrome you will..You don't have to wonder if your detox meds will give you a worse habit their are none . And you will have all the memoriesMemory loss
Mental status tests of your detox to draw on if you think you may want to use again. Start going to N.A. and take responsibility for your addictionDrug abuse and dependence and believe it or not you will heal and this will be behind you much quicker..Some people like detox but for me it just drags out the inevitable. Good luck to you and use this forum when you can't go to a meeting and I will say a prayer for your health...a-wakan

Sounds like you need a serious detox... I know it's a *****... the way it got out of handHand or foot spasms
Hand tremor... Please look at the post below about the different meds and there is always Suboxone.... which is replacement therapy... kinda like "methadone lite"  You can look that up at suboxone.com

best fish

this next part is for doing it without the "heavier" suboxone.


It’s good to come clean with your doc concerning your desire to get off.  Ask him to prescribe clonidine, (not klonopinKlonopin
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Drug-induced hypertension, because the firstFirst progesterone mc10
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Drug-induced hypertension and you have to come off of those.  I am still on Suboxone and am a little worried about that… It does work well but the jury is out on, “At what Cost.”  I also learned while in detox, that the mind can psychosomatically create painAbdominal pain
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Drug-induced hypertension.  Another was that healing while using opiates greatly diminishes.  I would have soresAreas where bedsores occur
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Hand tremor that would take way too long to heal.
Best
Fish
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Drug-induced hypertension they are very powerful ….. kinda like heroinDrug abuse in a pill and just as hard to get off once you attain the, "addicted" status.

I took 2-4 5/500 LortabLortab
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To limit the withdrawalsDelirium tremens I would recommend a taper regimen.  If you are at 14 a day now..tomorrow go to 13 for a few days then go to 12 and so on. Dont get in a hurry and prepare yourself mentally for this.  

I have tried cold turkey and I will be honest...it is a BITC*!  If you go cold turkey I would recommend taking a week off of work if possible.  You will get fluAmniocentesis
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You will need help.  If your spouse is able...let him/her know what is going on and what to expect.  This will be difficult but YOU CAN DO IT!  If you can....I would get some xanaxXanax
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That brings me to another point.  Give your pills to another person to hold with strict instructions not to give you any pills.  Just remember YOU CAN DO THIS IF YOU REALLY WANT IT....but keep in mind it wont be easy.  Hope this helps.

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Drug-induced hypertension. this may work for someone who is physically dependant but tell an addict to smoke just half his rock today,shoot half is heroinDrug abuse today or to take just enough pills to hold of wds. if a person could do this then they probably are not an addict. beachtowel always suggests an in house rehab and i agree in as much as if you cant ctAbdominal ct scan
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I also agree that the cold turkey method works best in the long run.  If I had any pills I would take them even if the were covered in horseHorse chestnut sh##.  I am in day 3 of c/t and tonight is not as bad as I anticipated.  I still have no energy but managed to wash 4 loads of laundry.  Folding it was a ***** since each item seemed to weigh at least 50 pounds.  I also died my sister hairHair loss
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Male pattern baldness.  I listened to music and my "detox" song which is Everybody Hurts b y REM.  You've got to hold on.

You have some good info here you have to quit to quit anything less is still using..Sorry if it seems harsh but it is still true..a-wakan

I didnt expect to get so many responses so quickly.It is so good to know that there is support out there, that many people would not understand. I will start right now, and hopefully make it through. I have never written to a forum in my life. So I am not sure what to expect. I most certainly would love all the help, and comments I can get. I guess after all I have heard I will try to go cold turkey.Dont know what to expect coming off  this drugChemical dependence - resources
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Back strain treatment right now, so I wont have that to worry about. Say a prayer for me, I know I will need it

I believe any drugChemical dependence - resources
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Drug-induced hypertension that is mind altering should not be used by the addict..........

Suboxone is not mind altering and has been a godsend for me.

I am now taking 1 or 2 mgs 2 or 3 times a week.

I have been on sub for almost 2 months, and hope to be done with it soon.  But i am in no real hurry..................took time(25 yrs) to get where i was and it's gonna take time to get backBack pain - low
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In no way do i get a HigH, BuZz or any thing else w/ sub.

  AJ

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Drug-induced hypertension of choice was oxys.  I went to detox and comiong off them after 4 years was a B*****.  I also work in the healthcare field so it was easy for me to get my scripts, but let me tell you.  Get off them now and get help now, it will only destroy your life, it did mind.  My life is just starten to reshape. I tried cold turkey and klonopinsKlonopin
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Vitamin e and plenty of fluids and you'll be fine.  If you chose to go detox like I did it is expensive and you better have great insurance, they detoxed me with methodone and Tranzinefor a week, after thast I was fine.  Just stay away from the crowd that carries them or uses.  It's easy to get backBack pain - low
Back strain treatment on them and even harder next time  to get off.  I'll keep all you guys in my prayers, one love.


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