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9.5 weeks no fetal pole and no heartbeat

by Berni2, Dec 01, 2004 12:00AM
Hi I am 9.5 weeks and from my 7th week the u/s shows no fetal pole and no heartbeat.  Today I had another sono as I have one every week, with same results.  My gestational sac has grown from last week 25mm to 33mm.  My pregnancy hormone level 2weeks ago 32k, 1week ago 26k, and today 12k.  I am told this is a sure miscarry.  I want it to happen naturally, even though I have been going thru this torture for 3 weeks.  I have had absolutely no bleeding throughout the pregnancy and have no bleeding now.  The Dr.s say it is my option to wait or have a D&C.  I am going to The Ann Wigmore Health Institute in Puerto Rico, for 4 weeks, to detox and cleanse my system (from fertility drugs and probing) before trying to get pregnant again.  We conceived at the fertility center (IUI).  I am scheduled to leave on Dec. 19th, and I'm afraid to miscarry in Puerto Rico, fear of complicatins.  What do you think?  I need some support.  I am 41 and have no children yet.  This is my first pregnancy and expected miscarriage.  If I miscarry on my own can I handle it alone?  Please share your thoughts and experiences.  Thank you.



Berni2
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by momttc, Dec 01, 2004 12:00AM
To: berni
I'm sooooo sorry.  I know that doesn't make it any better, but almost all of us have experienced a miscarriage at least once.  I had the d&c at 12 weeks.  Discovered no baby at 10 weeks and my body still didn't want to believe it.  I never spotted or anything.  My dr said i could carry well into my 4th-5th months before my body might finally figure it out.  I waited for 2 weeks and nothing, so had the d&C.  Personally I can't imagine passing all of that.  It would just break my heart!!!  The d&c was quick and clean.  I bled after but not clots or anything weird.  With you traveling, I would for sure do the d&c.  Sometimes after a m/c you don't pass it all and still have to have the d&c.. you don't want to risk infection.



Again, I'm so sorry.  Your baby will come.  Have faith ;)  momttc

by carolyn55806, Dec 01, 2004 12:00AM
I am so sorry for your loss. I had a miscarriage four weeks ago. I was 8 weeks along. I chose to wait for the natural miscarriage, seeing as there are more possibillities of complications and scar tissue with a D and C. Sometimes it's harder to have another baby once you've had one done...but sometimes it IS necessary. My miscarriage was like this:  It started with light spotting and light period-like cramping. The bleeding and cramping got heavier ( althought the cramping was never worse than a bad period) until it started coming very heavily. I started passing tissue (the actual passing of the tissue was totally painless) until i later passed something the size of a very small plum....that was the embryo and the sac and the placenta, etc. That was also not painful. The cramping and bleeding got better immediately. Anyways...there is a SMALL chance of complications and of course you need to have an ultrasound done after the MC to make sure your body passed everything. Could you do that soon afterwards if you went to puerto Rico? Good luck and I am so sorry. You will get through this.

by Berni2, Dec 02, 2004 12:00AM
Thank you so much Ladies for your insight.  I appreciate it.  Best wishes and health with your recovery and future pregnancy.

by lovinmom, Dec 03, 2004 12:00AM
Bernie,



I'm so sorry that you have been going through this.  You might want to visit this web-site.  It has some helpful info regarding situations like yours and also on natural miscarriage.  I wish you the best.  I'm curious what you do for the detox?  I lost my baby over 1 1 /2 yrs. ago and would like to do something like that.  Thanks.

by hangin'in there!, Dec 04, 2004 12:00AM
I have a 2.5 year old son and I am happily married. However, we have had 3 m/c's in the last 2 years trying for another one. I never had a speck of blood with my son ... it was a pretty cruisy pregnancy really and we concieved within the first couple of 'tries'. Then we had 2 miscarriages in a row - but these happened so early in the pregnancy that I hadn't had the chance to 'feel preg.' and they were like exceptionally painfull and heavy menstrual bleeding. The cramps were crippling - but nature did it's job well and I recovered quickly. The 3rd m/c was the worst. Found out I was pregnant and did everything by the book, cutting no corner's. Saw an awesome fetal heart beat at 7 weeks via ultrasound and was told that 95% of pregnancies progress to term where the heart beat has been sited in an ultra sound. Went home and life went on ... I even had a due date!



I got out of the shower and noticed the tiniest bit of blood on the towel after drying you-know-where. After I cleaned myself up there was no more bleeding but I went to ER cos I wanted an ultrasound ... hey, I'd lost 2 already and blood is not good - right? They had be guzzle a heap of H2O and whipped me off for an ultrasound ... I was supposed to be 15 weeks pregnant.



"There is no fetal heartbeat, I'm sorry." The ultra sound was haunting. Slumped at the bottom of the gestational sac was my dead unborn child. They measured the fetus and said that it had died at approx. 8-9weeks of age. I wanted to know how I could have a dead fetus inside me and not bleed for well over a month and they couldn't answer me ..."That happens sometimes and we call that a missed abortion or late miscarriage." I went home, hoping to let nature do it's job but ended up ambulanced to hospital haemoragging badly and in shock. I had not passed any fetal material - but was loosing clots the size of large lemons. I had an emergency d&c (which I had hoped to avoid) and then went home only to become gravely ill with infection. I was booked in for another d&c (for the same preg.) as an ultrasound revealed that there were reatained products of conception. Heaps of antibiotics later and no period for 6 months I was finally ready to think about 'trying again'.



I am now 8 weeks pregnant and have had one gush of blood that disappeared as quickly and suddenly as it came. This happened at 4-5 weeks and I have not bled since! I think I still have symptoms of pregnancy (sore boobs, weird cravings and moody) but these things are hard to know for sure as I still had morning sickness during the period my fetus was deceased - so what do symptoms really tell us???



I share your pain - although I am lucky to have at least been blessed with my healthy, happy, vibrant son. It must be awful to loose your first pregnancy.  They say 1 in 5 pregnancies will end in m/c and that most women will experience this at some point in their reproductive lives. I also know that if you have only had one m/c - your chances are as high as they were before the m/c that you will carry a healthy baby to term.  There's not a lot that can be said to reassure you at the moment and well meaning loved one's are going to say some stupid things that they think will reassure you.



If you want support please email me privately and I will be more than happy to be there for you (so you don't have to be as alone as I was) as I know how terrible this feels.



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Take care - and if you clot really badly you may have to end up having a d&c (I didn't want to, either!)

by lovinmom, Dec 04, 2004 12:00AM
Hangin In,



How horrible what you had to go through with your last miscarriage.  I know that in extreme cases such as  yours, a D&C may be needed.  Thank you for sharing your experience.  I wonder if you have a hemmoraging placenta?  At the web-site I mentioned, there is a gal named Bonzomom who had a similiar experience as you but ended up having her baby.  I wish you the best with this pregnancy and that you don't have to go through any more experiences.  It amazes me what us women have to endure.  I guess it is Eve's curse?  Yikes!  Take care!!!!

by lovinmom, Dec 04, 2004 12:00AM
P.S.  Hanging In there,



If you get an ultrasound soon, I would have the doctor double check your cervix while doing the u/s just to make sure the depth of it is okay for this pregnancy.  If the depth is not good, the doctor can put in a stitch to make sure you don't lose this pregnancy in your second trimester.  This helps to prevent an incompetent cervix.  Sometimes with second trimester D&C's the cervix can be thinned and create problems.  I wish you the best and really hope that this pregnancy sticks!

by gallerygirl, Dec 04, 2004 12:00AM
I went through 4 mc by myself at home.  They are not painful but I didn't want a d/c.  I am 41 and was told the fetus had died...I didn't want to walk around feeling like a coffin so I took black cohosh and it caused the tissue to pass.  It is horrible and I feel for you hopefully everything will be fine and you will go on try try again.

by Berni2, Dec 05, 2004 12:00AM
To: Lovinmom
Sorry for your lost.  Thank you for your support.  If you would like to cleanse/ detox.  Look up Ann Wigmore Health Institute.



You can also go to www.hippocratesinst.com  they are extremely expensive, but you are worth it.  Ann Wigmore Health Institute is way less expensive.  I went to Hippocrates West Palm Beach, Fl. in 2002 for 3weeks.  2003 I went to Miami for 3weeks and did my own thing (followed the diet