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Prozac-'Happy Pill'
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Roger Gould, M.D. - Mental Health, Wellness
Questions posted in the Mental Health forum are being answered by Dr. Roger L. Gould, author of the Mastering Stress and Depression program and affiliated with the UCLA. Department of Psychiatry. Topics covered include anger, attention deficit disorder (ADD), bipolar disorder, dementia, electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), learning disabilities, memory, obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), panic, personality disorders, phobias, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), schizophrenia, stress, transitions, and work problems.

Prozac-'Happy Pill'

by jerry78, Apr 15, 2002 12:00AM
42 year old male, off work now with a back injury, and as such, developed mild depression.  Otherwise, good health.  Past history of Panic Disorder in 1996, but treated succesfully with cognitive therapy.

I was just prescribed Prozac by my treating Orthopedic for my depression and back pain (20 mg-once a day)  Is this a safe pill?  What can I expect from it?  As a past panic sufferer, I am very apprehensive to take medication cause I fear meds.  Thank You

by Roger Gould, M.D., Apr 16, 2002 12:00AM
It is a safe medication, has been used for a long time. There are side effects, and it does stimulate some people, so may border on panic by making you more agitated for a while.



If you have a mild depression because off work and injured, you don't really need an antidepressant...just figure out what you need to do with your time and energy to feel more productive, or at least, able to enjoy your time off.
Member Comments (1)

by JustSayNo, Apr 27, 2002 12:00AM
To: Jerry
Jerry - I'd be curious to know why our doctor, here, believes that Prozac use is 'safe'... since there is no evidence to that effect.  Learn the REAL truth - not the one made up by the advertising agencies to sell these drugs.



http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

http://www.prozacspotlight.org/



International Coalition for Drug Awareness (PROZAC)

http://www.drugawareness.org



Murder, suicide. A bitter aftertaste for the 'wonder' depression drug

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,504775,00.html



Over Dose: The Case Against the Drug Companies 2/6/02

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/6/overdose.htm



Withdrawal from paroxetine can be severe, warns FDA

http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7332/260



USA Today Exposes Conflicts of Interest in FDA Drug Approvals 10/1/00

http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/1/fda_drug_approvals.htm



How the Media Deceives You About Health Issues 2/17/01

http://www.mercola.com/2001/feb/17/media_deception.htm



Bitter pill / Sarah Boseley

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4181987,00.html



Prozac class drug blamed for killing / Sarah Boseley

http://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/media/zoloft/Guardian.htm



NEUROLEPTIC BRAIN DAMAGE

http://lindval.tripod.com/BrainDamage.html



The Dark Side of Psychiatry

http://www.oikos.org/antipsicen.htm



The Antipsychiatry Coalition

http://www.antipsychiatry.org/



NEUROLEPTIC MALIGNANT SYNDROME OR NMS

a catastrophic reaction to major tranquilizers (phenothiazines and butyrophenones) and anti-depressants with upwards of 20% mortality. A silent epidemic.

http://www.idiom.com/~drjohn/nms.html



Your Guide to the World of Alternative Mental Health

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/



Social Audit ;  The Antidepressant Web

http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/Default.htm#1.3



Antidepressant Web Discussion

http://www.socialaudit.org.uk/_disc//messages/23/23.html?SaturdayFebruary1620021112pm



Antidepressant Discontinuation Syndromes:

Common, Under-Recognised and Not Always Benign

http://www.itascapsych.com/pharm3.html



Drug Giants Cash in on Herbal Therapy

http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0814103225.shtml



We've Been Misled by the Drug Industry

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A28103-2001Aug18



Nicholas Regush - INSANE PSYCHIATRY

http://www.redflagsweekly.com/regushcrazy.html



Prozac Mania

http://www.mcmanweb.com/article-19.htm



U of T faces lawsuit over withdrawn job offer

Researcher lost job offer after publicly linking Prozac and suicide. Like Nancy

Olivieri before him, he finds himself defending his reputation, while the U of T

finds itself in the midst of controversy

http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewNote.cfm?REF=1152



Drug Industry Investment in Bush Administration

http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/nofreelunchserve/2001-January/000073.html



Doctors and Patients Unaware of Withdrawal and Side Effects

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/ssri000524.html



Drug Firms Still Lavish Pricey Gifts On Doctors (washingtonpost.com)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5328-2002Jan18



Do the Right Thing.  DiscloseTheTruth.



by scots lassie, May 22, 2002 12:00AM
To: jerry 78
Justsayno/ is absolutely spot on with his advice,beware jerry 78. A programme here in the UK recently highlighted the potential dangers of these prescribed pills and other potions and the shady connection with the drugs co.As intimated by this visual delight,high anxiety/depression appears to be a state of mind and in most cases maybe nothing to do with chemical imbalance,this is also my opinion.I would add that I am not medically qualified,just experienced.



I will more than likely visit some of the sites kindly sugested by 'Justsayno',I am sure you will also do this.Just say 'one day at a time' thats all anyone can do,it does get easier.There are other less intrusive and invasive methodologies of treatment available,'phycian heal thyself'.I wish you well,happy times.



Maze.

by Peagee, May 25, 2002 12:00AM
To: Scots Lassie
Have found out a little more about why its so difficult to get UK information on drugs and adverse effects etc (as I'm from the UK too) :



http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/message?forumid=182310&messageid=1022333368



"The Campaign for Freedom of Information





The Secret Life of Pharmaceuticals





A slightly edited version of this article was originally published in Chemistry & Industry magazine, December 1994



Why is the regulation of pharmaceutical safety so secretive?



The story starts with an event which should have ensured maximum openness: thalidomide. For many years the full account of this tragedy was suppressed by the courts: it took the European Court of Human Rights to rule that a Sunday Times expose could be published.



The legislation that resulted should have guaranteed the public's right to know. But in true British style, it protected the drug industry's right to suppress information instead.



Under section 118 of the 1968 Medicines Act it became a criminal offence for an official to reveal, without the supplier's consent, any information obtained by the licensing authority in the course of its duties. The restriction, meant to protect commercial secrets, in fact prevents the disclosure of safety data, the advice of the government's expert committees and the reasons for licensing decisions.



The result has been a blanket of secrecy. Time after time ministers have stood up in parliament and refused to say what research has been submitted on a product, why a particular license has been granted or withdrawn, and what the authorities are doing to tackle some contentious drug safety issue.



Yet the same information can often be obtained from Washington under the American Freedom of Information Act. Under it, even British citizens living in the UK have an enforceable right to information denied to MPs in the House of Commons.



The chance to change this came in 1993 with Giles Radice MP's private member's Medicines Information Bill. The bill partly implemented the government's own manifesto promise to limit the scope of excessive disclosure restrictions. It also proposed positive access rights to safety and efficacy information, subject to exemptions for confidential manufacturing details and products under development.



The bill obtained an unopposed second reading, though both the industry and the Department of Health later opposed it. But it was their less than straightforward lobbying tactics that left a sour taste.



During the bill's committee stage a Conservative backbencher began by declaring an interest as a paid adviser to a leading pharmaceutical firm, and then proceeded to move a series of what he himself acknowledged were "wrecking amendments". All within the House of Commons rules, but how different from local government - where a councillor may neither speak nor vote on a topic on which he has an interest.



Next, the British Pharma Group - representing Glaxo, Fisons, Boots, SmithKline Beecham, Zeneca and Wellcome - demonstrated a particularly artless form of lobbying. Announcing that it could live with most of the bill, it argued that one central clause was objectionable. If enacted, firms would boycott the UK licensing authority and seek their initial clearances elsewhere in Europe it warned. But the remaining bill would be "unlikely to create significant problems" if this provision were removed. Compromising, Mr Radice dropped the contentious clause and widened the commercial confidentiality provisions. The BPG, having achieved its goal, suddenly reneged on its previous position, declaring war on the remaining clauses, though days earlier these had been largely acceptable. Even the rump of the bill would now cause "real and lasting damage to the industry" it unashamedly told the government, resuscitating its increasingly implausible threat that British companies would "simply cease to use" the UK licensing system. The stance gave the government the excuse it needed to oppose the bill, which was then talked out.



The health minister Tom Sackville announced an alternative approach. He told MPs that his department had "begun to discuss with the pharmaceutical industry a new voluntary code of practice to increase the amount of information that they give to the public". Three months later, the Open Government white paper confirmed that the Department of Health was "currently discussing" this code with the industry. But was it?



Asked what discussions had actually taken place at that time, the Department reluctantly admitted, under pressure from the Parliamentary Ombudsman who supervises new Whitehall "open government" rules, that there had been no discussions during this period. The issue had been one of several raised at a single "informal meeting" prior to second reading and followed a few days later by one "further contact by letter". Then total silence until the following year. The continuing, substantive talks implied in the white paper had simply not occurred by the time the white paper appeared. They had been concocted, to spare the government embarrassment.



The government argued that British companies should not be disadvantaged by requiring them to be more truthful than their European competitors. Mr Sackville's answer was for Britain to take a lead in promoting greater openness under new European drug licensing rules. How successful has he been?



Two new European approval schemes are due to come into force next month. Under the centralised procedure, co-ordinated by the new European Medicines Evaluation Agency, a product may be licensed for use throughout the European Union. Under the decentralised procedure, a license is obtained in one member state, but subsequently must be recognised by other states unless they have objected within a fixed period. Any objections will be dealt with by binding arbitration.



For a product licensed under the centralised procedure, a summary assessment of its safety and effectiveness will be made public - a welcome step. But this centralised procedure is compulsory only for genetically engineered and certain other hi-tech products. The vast majority will probably be licensed under the decentralised procedure. Here there will be no disclosure. Member states accept that openness should come eventually, but only after they have seen how the centralised arrangements work. And no change will be made without fresh European legislation - a proviso likely to ensure indefinite delay.



So safety data on all existing UK products, and most of those introduced in future, will still fall under the archaic restrictions of section 118. Government and industry have killed real moves to greater openness - but neither has done its reputation much good. "

by robster, Jun 25, 2002 12:00AM
I do not know if prozac is the right medication for your condition. I am not a doctor of any kind.



What i have found frightening however is the barage of negative replies, obviously 'cut and pasted' a thousand times against anti depressant drugs, in this case prozac.



Why are people so anti? I can only speak from experience, of the depths that I sank to in my mental health. Was Prozac the cure? Did it stop the underlying causes of depression? NO. Did it dig me out of a whole long enough to allow me to put right what had gone wrong, to be a with a  shrink who could help me. YES.



Petty minded people who know no better. Have the people who attack this drug been depressed to the point of having to quit work, lay in bed all day, contemplate suicide?? NO. Of course this drug will be misused, of course for some it will be a crutch they come to rely on needlessly... but talking of crutches, if you break your leg, do you not need a crutch for a short period? a little help? some external assistance.



Thank you who ever designed prozac, you helped me be me..



Rob

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