Ultram and mental health

by joan, May 21, 2000 12:00AM

i also am on that right now...but 8 a day is a bit much...it does effect your mind..but also she is under alot of stress.the two do not make a good combination i would think.talk to her about reducing the amount and good luck to you and her.

by SA.MD WON'T ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION.CO, May 22, 2000 12:00AM

To SA..Mister MD,

You're right on this one. Ultram withdrawls would be like withdrawls from asprin. Agreed!

She should see a shrink? I don't believe that is sound advice. It's certainly the easy answer. One that surely took all of 5 seconds to come up with.

Now why don't you take your rump down to the Re..Enemy...post,read it and give a ANSWER on it? I believe it deserves a honest answer and will also allow readers to see where you stand on certain issues. The more the readers know about you the better they are for it.

They always say,"ask the doctor anything you want,and if he doesn't give you a answer to your question then he's not a good doctor and dump him fast".

Waiting for the answer to the multiple choice question posted "ENEMY?'

by Brian to Not Typical, May 22, 2000 12:00AM

Why you are attacking the doctor for his advice simply because you either don't agree or want him to answer a question is beyond me. You seem to forget, this is NOT A CHRONIC PAIN BOARD! This is an ADDICTION board--therefore people are here because of their addictions. No one here, not the doctor or the addicts thinks painkillers are bad or don't have their proper use in medicine. We are simply those suffering from addictions. I for one do not want my addiction to interfere in any respect with anyone receiving painkillers for pain relief. I think if you fairly consider the doctor's responses you will find that he does not hold painkillers to be evil. Finally, the tone of the rhetoric here has gotten such that this board is no longer what it was designed to be or used to be. Sadly those of you with some sort of hostile agenda have taken over what was a resource of insight and comfort to those of us with serious addictions. We are all worse off because of this.

by SA.MD WON'T ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION.CO, May 23, 2000 12:00AM

Hello Brian,

I understand your concern and wish not to hurt the place you come to. This is a addiction forum is agreed. But you can't rule out people who are in great pain and take narcotics and are directly affected by this QUACK doctor's comments. Which in many cases are completely wrong. You ask another doctor and he/she will say M.D.Steve is wrong. If this person is afraid of a open forum where questions and comments can be express for discussion,then I fail to see the good that this M.D. can provide. If he hides from me then what kind of individual is he?

Like you Brian,I want answers. I don't have to brown nose anyone. If he is so insecure that a little discussion with him is too much for him to answer then what good is he?

I wish only the best for all of you. I am just expressing my right to disagree with the QUACK. We can agree to disagree. But Stevie MD can't even agree to face me. Now that is sad.

by Brighty to the Anonymous Person posting , May 24, 2000 12:00AM

I have not been to this forum much in the last couple of weeks and have returned to all this commotion which is very distracting from the actual reason this forum exists.... for people to exchange experiences and offer help and support to each other. I do not regard any doctor, anywhere as "God" and thus we all have the option of getting second, third and more opinions. I don't think you or anyone should consider the doctor here anything but a source of information .... and only "one" source of information at that. From what I have observed, the doctor here does not do anything but respond to posted questions.. he/she does not participate further in the discussions. This is a web site, not a personal doctor visit. Frankly, the doctors who are out there creating involuntary addicts are more deserving of criticism than the one who simply answers questions here. Brighty

by John Doe, May 24, 2000 12:00AM

I was just wondering, are YOU on ultram? If yes, I guess this just goes to show how irrational and "crazy" you can become on it. I don't think that the Doctor is the QUACK, I think it is you who is miss-informed! I personaly am inclined to believe the Doctor over someone who probably attained their information off a user info pamphlet that came with their medication!!!

by Brighty to John Doe, May 26, 2000 12:00AM

Are you talking to me ??? No, I'm not on any medication... but I might need some if I attempt to carry on a conversation with YOU !!!

by Diane, May 27, 2000 12:00AM

WHAT ULTRAM HAS DONE FOR ME

But, first in a nutshell.  Why am I taking Ultram?  For Lupus (systemic) and Fibromyalgia.  What did I do before Ultram?  Had an experience of addiction with narcotic (pain killers) and went to jail over it (called in my own Rx'S)!  Pretty crazy of me, huh?

Now that I have gotten over the narcotic craving (3yrs ago), I have learned that Ultram has been nothing but a replacement to my previous narcotic problem.  My current dosage of Ultram is up to 8 tabs a day.  Fortunately, I am smart enough to acknowledge this problem, but not ready to stop.  It is like living the horror of my past addiction all over again.

Ultam, gives me energy and happy thoughts, which the codeine did was seem as friendly to me. Therefore, this makes it more challenging for me to  stop taking Ultram.  And, for the fact that I have a lot of pain and I am only 34yrs old.  Soon. cannot be soon enough, to get over medicine dependancies to live my life all by myself.  God, I ask and anyone else for support, info, etc.,on this "Wonder Drug-Ultram" please write me @ ***@**** I would be so gratelful for any similar stories.

Thanks for reading,

Diane

by Diane, May 27, 2000 12:00AM

WHAT ULTRAM HAS DONE FOR ME

But, first in a nutshell.  Why am I taking Ultram?  For Lupus (systemic) and Fibromyalgia.  What did I do before Ultram?  Had an experience of addiction with narcotic (pain killers) and went to jail over it (called in my own Rx'S)!  Pretty crazy of me, huh?

Now that I have gotten over the narcotic craving (3yrs ago), I have learned that Ultram has been nothing but a replacement to my previous narcotic problem.  My current dosage of Ultram is up to 8 tabs a day.  Fortunately, I am smart enough to acknowledge this problem, but not ready to stop.  It is like living the horror of my past addiction all over again.

Ultam, gives me energy and happy thoughts, which the codeine did was seem as friendly to me. Therefore, this makes it more challenging for me to  stop taking Ultram.  And, for the fact that I have a lot of pain and I am only 34yrs old.  Soon. cannot be soon enough, to get over medicine dependancies to live my life all by myself.  God, I ask and anyone else for support, info, etc.,on this "Wonder Drug-Ultram" please write me @ ***@**** I would be so gratelful for any similar stories.

Thanks for reading,

Diane

by Mojo38, Jun 04, 2000 12:00AM

I work with doctors every day. I am also an addict. I have great respect for doctors. If I was to go to 5 different doctors with the same question I am sure I would get 3 out of 5 different answers. Doctors are only human and they learn the same way we do through education and the added benefit of hands on experience. All doctors do not treat the same problems the same way. Take addiction for example. In 22 years I have been to at least 11 specialists and every single one had a different approach. Some believed in pain during withdrawl, some did not, some were compassionate, some were not. Some prescribed certain medications to come off of others, some did not. See what I mean. Please give Dr. Steve a break, every reply he has given sounds like very good advice to me! He is doing us a favor by coming here, he doesn't have to and I appreciate the time that he does take. Thanks Dr. Steve:)

by Joan C, Jun 20, 2000 12:00AM

How in the world did you call in your own prescriptions? Would a pharmacy really fall for something like that? How did you get found out?

by barbara to pain and lortab, Jul 26, 2000 12:00AM

I just started Ultram at my request to my doctor for chronic pain and she prescribed me six tabs a day, one tab every four hours. It's great, it picked up my mood and is better than any pain killer I ever tried in the past. I can see where it can become addictive because of the mood altering effects. I hate the thought of becoming dependant on it because doctors move around alot and many docs don't like to prescribe potentially addictive drugs.

I also take six mg of Klonopin a day which I know I have already become addicted to. They could not wean me off the Klonopin in a timly enough fashion so I stick with it every four hours for now. It's better than having seizures. Those were becoming more frequent and the Neurologist I recently saw thinks the seizures are a seperate disorder from the alcohol withdrawal since I was having them even after 30 days sober! They were cutting the Klonopin at that time though so who knows.

If it is a seperate disorder it was caused by the initial phase of severe alcohol withdrawal seizures I went through months ago.

If I ever get cut off I will go back to my old medication, booze!

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