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Pharmacy's refusal

by Dee, Feb 26, 2001 12:00AM
After my surgery wed. the Dr. gave my husband an rx of vicodin, he took it to costco to fill it after he brought me home and the Pharmacist told him i had just filled an rx for norco a few days before and he didnt want to fill the vicodin rx. My husband yelled and the Pharmacist said he would fill it but he wouldnt refill it. Is he allowed to do that? DeeDee
Member Comments (41)

by chad, Feb 26, 2001 12:00AM
Go to a different pharmacy.

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Feb 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: Dee Dee
Was this one of the big chain Pharmacies?  I won't even deal with them since my bad experience at Walmart...insensitive snobs is what they are.  J.B.

by dee dee, Feb 26, 2001 12:00AM
To: J.B.
Yes is is a big chain pharmacy.I'm definetly leaning alot from this site. thanks to all.

by Heyrae, Feb 26, 2001 12:00AM
Hate to jump on this thread but as you all know, you just cant make a new one.



Here's my dilemma, I have severe Rheumatoid Arthritis for 7-8 yrs. now, I'm 29 yrs. old.  I now see a Pain Specialist Clinic, I really dont like my doctor because he's very insensitive! Very.  Before going there I was downing around 12 - 18 vicodins 7.5 or 10/660 a day to keep sane and somewhat painfree.  So my I finally admitted to my doctor that I had a problem with this medicine not doing it for me anymore so now I see the pain clinic.  Before I saw them my Rheumy gave me oxycontin 20mg 3xs a day (just for that week until I saw the Pain Clinic), but that didn't help and gave me panic attacks.  Until I saw the "Clinic".  So they started me on Kadian 50mg 1 a day, 3 norco for breakthrough and some sleeping aid that did nothing.  I tried to go 4 days and I was in pain with no relief so I went back to the pain clinic.  They bumped me to 50mg of Kadian 2 a day at around 5-8pm so it would peak around morning.  I tried for a week and nothing too.  Maybe I was hopeing for a miracle or something since it was Morphine!!  So I went back, they were a little disturbed that this hadn't helped and started making threats that maybe nothing would help me, of course I cried, so he said take 3 50mgs with 3 norco for breakthrough and Klonipin for sleep.  The clonipin helped, and for 2 days it seemed that I could feel a difference.  But then it died away, and the weather is changing really bad with the rain and storms and I'm suffering.  I just went back to the pain clinic cause I went through a really hard weekend, and on Tuesday I wanted to tell them what I went through.  The doctor was so cold, and told me that, "Do you know your taking the most medicine here in the clinic, not even the Cancer patients take this much."  I felt so terrible.  I didn't ask what others were on.  And I'm sorry I dont care at this point, I wanted him to feel the popping in my shoulder, the way it gets like it's dislocated, and up to me to place it back, I wanted him to suffer like I was, instead of lecturing me.  He said well if what were giving you isn't working then lets just stop it all together, I asked wasn't there some other approach we could try, "No, no we've tried everything."  He's a D _ _ N! Lie cause I've only been there about 1 1/2 months.



Why doesn't the Kadian help?  Is it cause I was taking so much vicodin for so many years?  It is a strong dosage but when times get rough, I cant feel it help any.  And then I want to pop pills of norco like I use to.  I've really been good not too.  I do go to 4 or 5 pills but thats like 2 x's a week, then I suffer when I run out.  What else can I suggest to him withough him jumping on my back.  My husband is coming to my next visit.  And he said rest assure, NO ONE was gonna make me come out of that office crying.



I could use some advice.  Is Kadian stronger than oxycontin, maybe I could take that again but at a higher dosage,(like he would really listen.)  Why can these doctors be so heartless and then just leave you there, with your pains and sad thoughts, they know your already depressed.  I hate it.  I just want to take something that will last.



HELP!

***@****

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Feb 27, 2001 12:00AM
To: Heyrae
Taking 12 to 18 Vicodin per day?  That's a lot of Tylenol which is pretty hard on the liver.  I'd gladly take the Kadian instead.  Kadian is similar to MS Contin and a pretty potent timed release opiate without the acetaminaphine. My wife was taking 180mgs of MS Contin per day and had MSIR 15mgs for breakthrough pain.  Later on she was given Dilaudid as the pain(cancer related) worsened and her tolerance increased. Going from that many Vicodin per day to 50mgs of morphine might be your problem.  You may be having withdrawals due to the change.  I don't know anything about OXY Contin except a lot of bad press releases and horror stories from people who abuse it.  I hope that the others here can give you more information.  J.B.

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Feb 27, 2001 12:00AM
To: Heyrae
Taking 12 to 18 Vicodin per day?  That's a lot of Tylenol which is pretty hard on the liver.  I'd gladly take the Kadian instead.  Kadian is similar to MS Contin and a pretty potent timed release opiate without the acetaminaphine. My wife was taking 180mgs of MS Contin per day and had MSIR 15mgs for breakthrough pain.  Later on she was given Dilaudid as the pain(cancer related) worsened and her tolerance increased. Going from that many Vicodin per day to 50mgs of morphine might be your problem.  You may be having withdrawals due to the change.  I don't know anything about OXY Contin except a lot of bad press releases and horror stories from people who abuse it.  I hope that the others here can give you more information.  J.B.

by cindi, Feb 27, 2001 12:00AM
To: DeeDee
These pharmacies are really pissin me off.  I went through something similar last year ,  First I had some really bad dental work done and my dentist gave me VicES. 20 of them,  about 3 days later I came down with pneumonia ( get pneumonia at least 2 times a year thanks to the daycare I work at, an a shoddy immune system)  So my lung doc called me in some antibiotics and vicodin tuss cough syrup.  CVS refused to fill the cough syrup.  They told me to take a vicodin with Robitussin for the cough.  so I had to waste my pain pills for my teeth and use them for my cough.  My doc didn't even fight with them.  Go figure.  take care hope you feel better   cin

by PS >>>>Annie, Feb 28, 2001 12:00AM
To: Cindi
I cannot believe a pharmacy has the right to refuse a patient their pain medication.  Are we living in a Democracy or a communist country.  This is so unreal.  I havent had this problem yet, but do not go to the same pharmacy...ever.  



Doctors won't fight this problem, because they feel their hands are tied.  They are already afraid to prescribe the meds in the first place.  First the insurance companys are telling the doctors what they can and cannot do, and now the pharmacy.  This is so unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by PS >>>>Annie, Feb 28, 2001 12:00AM
Why don't we just skip the doctor visit alltogether and just ask the pharmacy what we can have.

I stopped using Wal-Mart a long time ago.....cause they started printing your history on the medication info. print out.  Like be aware of the medication you have taken, or something.  I dont think they do this anymore.  It may have been one particular pharmacist that did this.

by Heyrae, Feb 28, 2001 12:00AM
To: To J.B. from Heyrae
Thank you so much for your advice.  No one else has said anything from this forum or they just haven't read my post yet.



This is what I'm thinking of doing.  What do you think.  My husband wants for me to start halfing my norco and that way I'll be taking 6 dosages throughout the day.  He said that the body can make it self get use to anything as long as its still being fed something.  I'm sure it'll be okaaaay for the days that the weather isn't really bad, but on days like these past few weeks my pain runs from my wrist, shoulder and hands, plus I have a 10mth old baby who is a whopping 24lbs, and thats alot of lifting, and she perfers me over my husband, even though he tries.



What about this MS Contin and the other drug you mentioned, do you think that would work a little bit better than 150mg of Kadian and 3 norco a day?  I so do hate this so much!!!! I pray for all of us on this forum as much as possible.  But I believe God put us all here together in the meantime to give each other help, love and support.  I hope that one day I can do the same for someone else.  



I'm afraid of taking Kadian for too long cause I dont know if I mentioned but in a year I'll be ready to start trying again for another child.  This one has given my life so much hope an joy even on the bad days.  That was my God sent.



I'm so confused I know that what I'm taking right now is just not really cutting it and now I'm finishing the clonipin way to early hoping that taking that with the norco will make my day seem more copable.



What do you suggest, should I stop taking the clonipin before that becomes a problem, and 1/2 my norco's, and then little by little tttrrrryyyy to go from 150 to 100mg of Kadian, anyways I'm doubting that they are really doing all that much, but I guess they must be cause I went from downing almost 20 10/660 hydrocodones a day to maybe 4 maybe 5 a day.  I just dont want to suffer more in the long run when I get pregnant and they only want to give me 1-3 vicodins a day.  Does it sound like the Kadian is really helping cause I'm not downing 20 vic's a day?  Is there something else I could try that you know of or can you ask your friends here on the forum for me.  Thank you J.B. so much, I know its just advise but it means the world to me.  So much that I believe that God is going to Bless you for just being here and listening to me and others that need someone to give advise to.  Tonight and tomorrow I'm praying for your blessings to be expedient and abuntfull!  I'm not a radical, but honestly I have great belief in God, but I still go through day to day realities.  But whenever I pray and ask God for help or need him to take me out of a jam, he always has done it.  In my family I'm the go to person for prayers.  Doooeesn't mean I'm super duper or anything, but what it does mean that he brought you and this forum in my life for a reason, so believe I've been praying for relief and peace of mind for many of you and you nameless people rest assure that he's listening.



Let me stop jabbering on and on, please give me more input on what I had asked earlier J.B.  Thanks again to you.



Please email me privately if you ever feel the need or think I could use some advise, which I always do.  Like right now I'm typing over here at 2:46am.  Cant sleep.



Take great care everyone!!!  ***@****

by PS >>>>Annie, Mar 01, 2001 12:00AM
To: BEANIE/Dee Dee..... They did it again!
I just got finished reading your post down below about that pharmacy Cindi went to.  Well, you got me charged up and going again.  Now they did it to Dee Dee.  I'm going in for surgury next week, and let me tell you....I'll will definately take your advice about calling the news team if they refuse my medication!

You have the right idea.  We need to bring this story out to the public.  I say let's make a personal goal on behalf of humanity to report these so called pharmacist.  We need to take this serious, because it could very well be one of our children, grandparents, parents, etc. etc. that they refuse next.  This is inhumane.  This is the world we live in, and it's up to us to make some changes.  Now I've seen it all!!!!!!!!!

DEE DEE,

How are you feeling.  I know your still recouperating.  Just thought I'd ck in on you.  Hope your doing ok.

Annie

PS

The Pharmacy Board may be a good place to start, then 20/20, then Primetime, Dateline, local news.....and on and on..(: