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Here I go again...

by Sadgirl, Aug 23, 2001 12:00AM
Hello friends:  I've been to this forum many times, to read, get strength, advise and knowledge.  I posted back in August 1999, with an addiction to vicoprofen 200/7.5, which is hydrocodine with ibuprofen.  I had done well for so long, but am now suffering with TMJ disorder and am back on the meds.  At first I was running to ER with debilitating migraines...they knew I was in spasms and pain, they doctors at ER have given oxycodin, vicoden, davort (spelling?), and percosets, and none of these have affected me like the above.  I am in actual pain...this is the sad part, I've gotten a specialist and a MRI, but with today's medical plans – I’m really stuck..they suck...it will take one more month before I find out my solution and outcome.  One more month before anyone can help me.  In the meantime the only way I can function is with these damn pills.  I am addicted again...AGAIN...as much as I hate this..I'm in the grips of addiction...and don't know where to turn.  I take 3 pills a day, morning, noon and night...everyday..and feel the withdrawals symptoms immediately if I'm late...trust me I went through a bad time the first time...I am so tired of this merry-go-round..if ANYONE out there...thinks they have this beat, or that they can have just "one", I hope I am reaching you...I am so damn depressed because of this...thank you for listening..as I go on with my pain and my pills.  Please send me your healing and kind words...and of course advise....no one understands..only  someone who "has been there".



Sad girl

Member Comments (16)

by jule1, Aug 23, 2001 12:00AM
To: Sad Girl, Susan (Lea)
Lets turn you into happy girl.  You, along with many others here, are bing very hard on yourself.  3 a day is not much it all it sounds like you are taking what you need to resolve your pain.  I know it does not help but there are people out there who take 10 times what you do.  One thing we addicts tend to believe is that we are bad paople I kind of sensed that from your post we are not bad we have a problem and I would like to find one person in this world who doesn't have a problem.  I really believe that you can get the help you need here.  If you truly want to quit you could slowly taper off instead of cold turkey.  Three pills a day would be easy to taper off from.  I am sure the other people here can give you better advice but I am glad you came here and I will help you in any way I can.  Jules



Susan, Welcome back!  Fibromyalgia is another one of those diseases that people do not understand and therefore are not very sympathetic to.  One of my best friends suffers from Chronic Fatigue and I know people are not very understanding with her regarding her pain.  IBS is another that is misunderstood.  I hope you are feeling ok today.  Your friend Jules

by Witchywoman, Aug 23, 2001 12:00AM
To: Sad Girl
Hi Sadgirl,

I really want to echo what Jules wrote to you. She is so compassionate, and has helped me be more compassionate to myself as well.



Three a day is not a lot, though I do understand what you mean about feeling the withdrawls immediately if you are late.



I was given vicoprofen for really bad back pain from degenerative disc disease. I went from taking it a few times a week, to being on it round the clock, and at my most I was taking 15 a day. I definately abused them, so that my tolerance got so high, they didn't work when I needed them for pain. I liked how they made me feel, at first, until I eventually needed them just to feel normal.



If your pain level is high, then try to be easy on yourself and see them as a what they are...appropriate medication for your very real pain. If you are taking them only for pain, and not abusing them to get high, I don't see a problem with that. If you are like me, and don't trust yourself to take them only as prescribed, then work to stay honest with your motivations to take the meds, and get support to take them for pain without abusing them.



Still, I do understand that it can feel like hell to be addicted to something, no matter what. I still have pretty high back pain, but am tapering my meds down to nothing..because I can't handle the meds appropriately right now, and my pain is something I feel I can tolerate with just over the counter motrin.

But it sounds like your situation is different, and that you really need the narcotic for pain right now. Like Jules said, don't beat yourself up, and come here and talk to us when ever you need to.



lots of love,

WW

by Witchywoman, Aug 23, 2001 12:00AM
It's mighty quiet today.

I had trouble getting on to the forum this morning, my normal bookmark didn't work, so I had to type med-help into a search engine to find the forum again.



Did this happen to anyone else?



I'm doing ok today..no creepy crawlies, much less restless...we'll see how the night time goes.



Jenny? How are things going for you?



Earthgirl, how bout you? Things going ok?



hugs to everyone...I still need to babble lots  LOL this is sooo hard to get through.  



love,

WW

by Sadgirl, Aug 24, 2001 12:00AM
To: Jules and Witchywoman
Thank you so much to responding to my post.  It means the world to me to know that someone out there understands and cares.  Yes, I do beat myself up a lot...hopefully next month I will get some concrete medical help and start tapering off the meds.  God bless the both of you!

by Witchywoman, Aug 24, 2001 12:00AM
To: Sadgirl, A.S,Earthgirl, Everyone!
Hello everyone!

I'm doing great still...Last night I once again tried to go without any meds at all, but still needed some to stop the restlessness, but I am down to just HALF a pill, once a day, at night.

I have a wedding weekend that I am on my way out the door for, so won't be able to post till I return on Sunday. My withdrawal symptoms are pretty much gone during the days. No more creepy crawlies, no sweats, no more diahrhea..just that danged restlessness at night.

My comitment to myself is this...as soon as this wedding is over, and I'm home, I will not take the night time dose, even if it is just half a pill. At this point I wonder if that night time restlessness is just mentally produced anxiety about not having any in my system at all...I'm not sure. But I can take a sleepless night or two for it to mean totally being off this stuff.



My back hurts still. Yep. But not as bad as before. I can bear this.



Sadgirl, keep posting...we need you as much as you need us!



Earthgirl..haven't heard from you in a while, and you did ask for us to check in, so I"m checking in..how are you?



AS thanks for the strength you send. I can feel it.



lots of love to all of you!



WW

by jennyfla, Aug 24, 2001 12:00AM
To: WW
HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME AT THE WEDDING!  :)

I admire your determination an your strength, you walk proud with your head up real high girl!!!!!

Lv Jenny

by Kristen, Aug 24, 2001 12:00AM
To: Sadgirl
I read your post and my heart goes out to you....I have to agree with what everyone else has written...you are beating yourself up....I was taking 30 a day (10 x that much)....i was abusing...I have nothing wrong with me...no pain...i just liked how they made me feel, then suddenly I woke up one day, felt like **** and HAD to take my pills just to feel normal....



Maybe if you feel your getting addicted, tell your physician your concerns and maybe he can help....as said above...we ALL have problems...no-one is perfect....but its great you can see how addicting those things are and not get to where some of us have been....NOT a good thing...hang in there girl.....~kristen

by jennyfla, Aug 25, 2001 12:00AM
To: sadgirl
I'm sorry you are feeling so sad.  Listen to the advise of these wonderful people, they know, they've seen, they've lived it!

Try to not be so hard on yourself, you're only increasing your pain with your emotional distress.

Be patient, and try to be strong! Be determined, and an answer will come in time!

((HUGS))

Lv Jenny

by mickytim, Aug 25, 2001 12:00AM
To: sad girl all others
I can't tell You my whole story it would take days but I too need strength from coming off these meds after 4 years. I wear a rubberband around my wrist it may sound funny but everytime I feel myself driffting I smack my wrist. Yes it hurts some but it reminds me that I need to stay strong and I have way to much to live for than to take anymore pills

by Rocket Girl, Oct 18, 2001 12:00AM
I'm a first timer on this page, but listening to all of you has made me feel less alone, less of a failure, less of a bad person.  I too had been prescribed vicoprofen for extreme back pain, probably 3-4 years ago, then one day I discovered it did more than just alleviate the physical pain I was experiencing, it also performed the function of self medication for my depression.  The pain, by the way, has been gone for many years, although I do still have verifiable back deterioration with cat scans, etc. to prove it, so it is not difficult for me to go to a doctor and obtain what I want.  Unfortunately this ease of obtaining the drug is stronger than I seem to be.  I no longer feel happy about anything in my life, except when I am under the influence.  On a normal day I wake up with a deep dread in the pit of my stomach.  I only feel optimistic when I know I will be taking something.  I've tried tapering off and it has helped with the panic attacks a bit, but I still feel in the grips of something so much stronger than myself.  The worst part is that my depression increases every day and my family, who all love me very much, doesn't know what to do to help me and I feel I can't tell them the truth because I feel like such a weakling and a total failure.  I have vacillated between being able to just take some on weekends to 10-15 a day and more, sometimes I can subsist on 3-4 a day for long times, but, whatever the dosage I feel that it has really caught up with me now as my life feels empty, hollow and useless.  All I have to look forward to anymore, besides getting high, is sedating myself into a fitful sleep (and that can only be achieved with the use of clonipin, benadryl, prozac and ambien along with a small dose of vicoprofen in the middle of the night to get me through.  No matter what though I wake feeling dead inside and dreading the thought of another day in the grips of this power over which I have no control.  Any kind words or advice would be greatly appreciated.  I have felt so alone for so long with no one to express these feelings to, so please forgive me for the rambling.

by Rocket Girl, Oct 18, 2001 12:00AM
I'm a first timer on this page, but listening to all of you has made me feel less alone, less of a failure, less of a bad person.  I too had been prescribed vicoprofen for extreme back pain, probably 3-4 years ago, then one day I discovered it did more than just alleviate the physical pain I was experiencing, it also performed the function of self medication for my depression.  The pain, by the way, has been gone for many years, although I do still have verifiable back deterioration with cat scans, etc. to prove it, so it is not difficult for me to go to a doctor and obtain what I want.  Unfortunately this ease of obtaining the drug is stronger than I seem to be.  I no longer feel happy about anything in my life, except when I am under the influence.  On a normal day I wake up with a deep dread in the pit of my stomach.  I only feel optimistic when I know I will be taking something.  I've tried tapering off and it has helped with the panic attacks a bit, but I still feel in the grips of something so much stronger than myself.  The worst part is that my depression