The answer is yes to your question.  From a male's standpoint, this alone can be very depressing.  But compared to some other AD's I've been on, Zyban/Wellbutrin has the least side effects for me.  Actually, any drugChemical dependence - resources
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Drug-induced hypertension can effect your libido to some extent.  In my younger days, I thought tequila was a wonderful aphrodesiac!  Today it's a different story.



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I understand that patientsKidney diet - dialysis patients who have sexualCauses of sexual dysfunction
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Again I am sorry to break in on this thread but I wanted to thank you all for helping me once more.  I have just felt like cryingColic and crying
Crying in infancy all week besides all this horrible devastation that happened so close to my home I am going through some other problems that sort of seem trivial but hurt.  One of them is losing a best friend I have had for 15 years (that sounds like I lost her to deathDiscussing death with children
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I am sorry about your friend.  But sometimes we need to do things for our sanity.  One of my very best friends for about 25yrs and I had to go our separate ways.  My ex of about 6 months was an addict in the worst way.  He had to leave otherwise it would have destroyed my familyBirth control and family planning
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sorry I meant my ex of almost 6 years.

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Hey there,,,,jules,  I need your email again....lost it   thanks,,,,now,,,about losing friends....friends come and friends go...but true friends I mean true friends are there,,through thick and thin......I have a 2 friends I speak with maybe 1 or 2 times a year,,,,,,but,,,when there is a crisis, they are always there for me or vice versa,,,,,I lost my best frind last christmas,,,,,she was there for me through everything, she never judged me, told me the truth about everything, defended me held me, fought for me...she was my mom,,,since then I will never have a friend such as her.....friends that desert us in our time of need are not really friends.....if they suspect you use drus they should offer their support and leave it at that,,,not leave you.....they should not judge you, or expect anything from you in return....that is what is so nice about this forum....we have no facesFace pain here and we expect nothing in return but yet I feel as though you all are my friends.....we stick with each other, support, love, care and show genuine concern....I am not saying this forum should take the place of real live flesh but the form this forum takes is real firendship one that should be like that in the flesh.......love to all   cin

jbear,



I can relate to your loss of your best friend. My best friend of 28 years and I parted ways a couple years ago. I was devastated. What had happen is we both lived on the WestWest nile virus coast. we were inseparatable all through junior high, high schoolPreschooler development
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All I can say is, *AMEN*! One way or another you find out who your true friends are. Thank God I have friends, one in particular, who I know will be there for me forever...no matter how much "fairFair skin cancer risks weather friends" may hurt me along the way. And on a personal note, your sharing your experience with your mother has helped me realize what a precious gift our parents are to us (or at least can be.) My relationship with both parents has improved 100%. Thank you (and the rest of my forum angels) for giving me a place to come without fearFears and phobias of judgment or condemnation. -- Milo

You are right,,,,,you will find out...Many people will walk in and out of your life but only true friends will leave footprints in your heartCongenital heart disease
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What an angel you are. Ole Mr. Milo is feeling kind of rough right now, side effects of the treatments and all, but he's in good spirits, hanging in there, and best of all, halfway through his treatment! Little Milo probably feels the worse of the two! You're so, so right about friends. Unfortunately there are all too few of the true friends around...though I read one person quoted as saying that if he died with one true friend in this world, he'd feel lucky. It's ironic -- some people use drugsChemical dependence - resources
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well,,,even when you don't have love per se (if you are talking about remantic love) it will happen when you least expect it..that's how it happened for me....but if it is love in general from friends etc....well I have news for little Milo...you are loved....genuinely loved....by me and the rest of us....write to me   and i will send you my number if you need to talk i am here and don't worry about my husband he'll love you too    LOL   (hey I better be careful there  lOL)   love cin

friends seem to drop out of my life and then vanish inexplicabl

and then i'll be dammed, (some) just resurface!it has a spooky

effect sometimes, like my past (i have way to much oast) starts

breaking in to the present.

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blackBlack cohosh
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several pints of cabin still (stab and kill) whiskey. he would

also lick the residue out of the cooker spoon if you let him.

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i did a midnight move out of mpls. yup just threw a blanket on

the floor, toss anything you wanted to keep, pickup all four

corners and start bookin'. see my house and the one on either

side was under survalance, but thats another story.

the next time i saw grouch was at the Minnesota  regional AA

blow out. I'd been clean about a year and to my amazement he

had a year and a half clean. a new friendship started. after

a little bit of what ever happened to who, i learned that an

old shooting buddy was livining in the house i left so quickly

years before. i also learned this person was really in a struggle

trying to get clean. OF COURSE I HAD TO HELP. when i arrived at

his place he was just in the process of fixxing. it was awful

i sat and watched when i should have just walked out. when

he was done, i set about the task of really jumpping him

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ing! i went backBack pain - low
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the door to his house was slightly open, but no responce to a

nock. i went into the front room to find him all blue and quite

dead. his ty still around his arm and his rig still in his arm.

i had never seen an OD when i was clean! words fall short of

saying what i felt to this very day. i dialed 911 on his phone

and split. i know he put the dope in his arm that killed him,

but i wish i had not been so judgemental and program-pushy!!

maybe things would have been different if i'ld practiced a little

more humility and acceptance!

i'm still in touch with Grouch. he stayed sober 13 years, got

devorced from his wife and started using again. i see him several

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friendship and never preach or cutCuts and puncture wounds off from him!



i've never told anyone about this....i hope i didn't bore anyone

telling it. Life is short, even shorter for a junky. the worst

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and repect that a "normal" person takes for granted.



Grouch: if you read this call me!



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Wow, what a story.  Not only did you not bore me, but i had to read your story twiceTwice-a-day!

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I respect your strength, you're an amazing person, and don't you ever let anyone tell you different!!!!

I have my angel sitting there on my shoulder shoulders intensive treatment
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Lv Jenny

Hi Milo,

I'm sorry you are feeling so poorly these days with your treatment.

I've been way too busy, not getting nearly enough time to spend with all of my 'forum friends'!!  Never forget how truly special you are, and if you do forget for some reason, there will always be someone on this board to remind you!!! :)

Take care, and i hope you feel better soon!!!!

((HUGS)) from a friend!

Lv Jenny