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Question about certain posts
by helloj, Nov 06, 2001 12:00AM
In review the posts on this board I noticed a few people are trying to quit opiates and are just taking "one" a night to help them get through. All of you who have gone though this no that no matter how much ruduction on dose takes place eventually you must go through the withdraw and by taking just one a night keeps the withraw going. Itf the person bites the bullet so to speak they will have a few days of misery but it will then get better slowly. I read of people going through months of detoxing. This is bad for the body and can lead to other problems such as dehyrdation and serious malnutrition. I did not see any posts telling these certain people this. Even though it is extreemly hard, one must stop all opiates and as most of you know even if you made it 5 days and then take "one" to help you get by it just puts you into another three days of withdraw. These poor people are just prolonging the suffering.
Approximate WD times are follows- based upon personal research
Heroin - 3 very bad days -7-10 total days
Methadone - not as acute but last MUCH longer and can feel much worse - 6-30 days. Might not start for 3 days after last dose depending on howw much you take and for how long
Buprenorphine when used for Heroin withdraw...it stays bound for a long time and that is one of the reasons we belive it is not as bad withdraw wise. But do realize that if you are on it for awhile and stop you will have withdraw but it might not start right away (could be up to 7 days later) - but it is not as bad as others.
That you for you time. I just thought I could help.
Approximate WD times are follows- based upon personal research
Heroin - 3 very bad days -7-10 total days
Methadone - not as acute but last MUCH longer and can feel much worse - 6-30 days. Might not start for 3 days after last dose depending on howw much you take and for how long
Buprenorphine when used for Heroin withdraw...it stays bound for a long time and that is one of the reasons we belive it is not as bad withdraw wise. But do realize that if you are on it for awhile and stop you will have withdraw but it might not start right away (could be up to 7 days later) - but it is not as bad as others.
That you for you time. I just thought I could help.
I have to differ though. I am now clean from opiates, but during the week that I went through withdrawals, for the first 4 or 5 days, at nightime, I took a teeny ammount, and it took the edge of the restlessness without prolonging the withdrawal. The amounts were very teeny though. One pill the first night, then half, then a quarter of a pill for two nights, then it was over.
Thanks for your suggestions though. Sounds like you've been there.
WW
Thankyou for your input. Tapering is really hard because you have to also have the discipline. My first experience in August was cold turkey.It was HELL !! But it was over within a week. Now I just feel so stupid for getting myself back into this mess. I'm choosing to taper I think mostly because I can't just lay around and sweat it out ( so to speak. ) My children are very young 2 1/2 and 9 months. Others have probably gone cold turkey with even younger ones but I feel guilty to drag them into this trial again.I've been posting on the other forum and I'm taking what advice everyone is giving. I think you are right helloj, no matter what, this is not going to easy and I needed to hear that reality. I love you all. Please walk along side me and continue to encourage me as you already have. Abbie
Oh well the trial continues.
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Jennyfla, it's great to hear from you! Hope all is well.
My youngest daughter will be 10 months on the 11th. She's a January baby and my 2 1/2 year old will be 3 in March. I love them so much and want to give them the best of me. Please keep in touch, I'm very encouraged to have connected with someone new.
Hi jennyfla- hope your hanging in there. Would love to hear from you when you feel up to it. :) Abbie
My withdrawals are getting worse and worse, and i can't figure it out!
My littliest child is becoming more and more of a handful, i can hardly keep up with her so i know how you feel!
Just trying to get by each day without going insane! :)
Lv Jenny
I have a lot of shame lately! My tolance is way down, and i started shooting because our med supply is so darn low. robert goes to the dr tomorrow. I just feel in withdrawal all of the time, and i'm sure shooting is making it worse.
Plus, i don't make a very good iv user, i'm all bruised and i'm just not the right 'type'. Small veins, sensitive skin, husband whose hands shake (you get the picture).
I HATE myself for this!!!
I love my kids, and i hate for them to have a mom like me!
I try to give the best of everything, but i let them down by doing this to myself.
I went into real bad withdrawals the other night. I slept in about 10 different spots, tried valium, nothing worked. Been stretching the meds, so refused to take anymore that night.
It was AWFUL!!!!! How will i be able to stop one day!!! When will i HATE it enough!!!
I'm gonna go smoke a cig, another disgusting thing i hate about myself.
I go up north in 1.5 weeks to visit family, hopefully these bruises will be gone by then! I hope i can get my levels much lower, and still be halfway comfortable!
My youngest dropped a drawer on my big toe last friday, OUCH!!!! Even with pain meds, it still screamed!!!! It's better now, but you never know how many times people step on your feet until you've hurt them.
We went to a concert at our local yearly festival in town last weekend. Kids rode rides, played carni games, and we saw The Marshall Tucker Band, it was a beautiful night with the breeze coming off the ocean from the far away hurricane!!!!
No lectures about the shooting, i know how horrible it is, and i feel horrible about it!
:(
BTW, I was able to corner that little tramp, and she apologized to me and said it was nothing, but she was very sorry that she hurt me. I just wanted to hear it, and i wanted her to see the pain in my eyes!
Take you for caring!
Love you guys!
Jenny
What is the situation with the pills? You said you had to stretch them.....are you just running low till your next refill or did your dr. cut you off? Or do you and hubby have to share?
So.....what did the little tramp look like? I already know what you look like, so I know there is no competetion there.
I know you are beating yourself up right now but please go easy on yourself. We all love you and are here for you. You have the best support group in the world.
Email me anytime if you need someone to lean on or if you just want to vent.
Hang in there!
Katie
Please don't worry if i MII, it only means I get too busy because of work/home/kids/husband, etc. and about 100 million other things! I will try though to post, especially after leaving such a horrible last post.
The tramp just looks like an ordinary young girl, you wouldn't even know she's a drug addict. She's 21, i'm 39, but i don't look it. I still blow her away!!!!! HA, just couldn't resist!!!!! :)
She's plain looking, kinda dorky, and i can't for the world of me understand how in the hell she was a stripper!!!!!!! HOW????????? With What??????? I don't see it!
She told me that she never would have done it if she hadn't of been so wasted, same for my husband. Well, NOT good enough!!!! I live in fear that he will do it again, and it's not a good way to live, and it's ripped a whole that will never repair right in the middle of my heart, and he knows it!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, pills are low because we're running out, hub is reupping tomorrow, but i don't want to get out of control!
Thanks for caring!
Lv Jenny
no lecture here. i'm just worried about you. try some a&d diper
ointment on your tracks. also vitamen e oil works well. please
try to get a lid on things before you hurt yourself!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Let us be your port in the storm.
Please, take good care of yourself.
love,
WW
no lecture, i've been where i fear your heading, so of course i
must allow you to find things out for your self. i guess this post-
ing is some sort of plea to come to your senses. 25 years + of IV
drug