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Im starting the recipe..got some Q's.....

by erotisy, Jan 01, 2002 12:00AM
Hey everyone...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! I gotta tell you, I'm sooo excited , I'm really gonna do it. I want it more than the first time..and that first time I went 4 days cold turkey..(hell)..so I think I'm really gonna pull thru!!! Anyways....I'm gonna do it with this recipe, but I've been back on my Wellbutrine..its a anti-depresant. In the directions for it, it says don't take L-Tyrosine with a SSRI.(serotonin reuptake inhibitor), like prozac,Effexor,paxil..any psychiatric mood elevators.... HUH???

Does that mean I should stay away from the "wellbu." until I'm done with detox??? AND.... How long do I do the recipe? I'm scared I might think its over, but its not..its happened before. So let me know ok? The point about having hot bath ready at all times is sucky...WHAT A TIME FOR MY HEATING ELEMENT TO BRAKE IN MY HOT WATER HEATER....ahhhhh......I'll boil the damn water if I  have to,,,,haha... I'm doing this come hell or high water!!!!  I'm starting as soon as I get the **** for it.. so let me know what you can..a.s.a.p......thanks, EROTISY
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by Durty, Jan 01, 2002 12:00AM
To: EROTISY
I had the same L-tyrosine concern as i take paxil as well.  I just started a new tapper down which will last about 20 days to get me to zero.  I've done it this way before and made it successfully --- but the last 3 times relapsed after 4-6 weeks clean - so guess wasn;t so successful.  Anyway, I kept taking the paxil and took 2500mg Tryosine during the process and didn't notice or have any problems.  I'm no doctor, just telling you what I did.



I have a QUESTION maybe someone can answer:  I take Zydone which is Hydro/tylenol.  Is hydro, hydro? I mean, would this be the same as the hydro in vicodin or others like it.  Just curious.  



Happy New year all - durty on way to clean again

by monalisa, Jan 01, 2002 12:00AM
To: durty
I assume that hydro is hydrocodone. My doctor gave me Norco and didn't tell me what it was. I called the pharmacy and sure enough it was hydrocodone/tylenol. I never filled the prescription, because I just wanted off the hydrocodone. I guess you can look at it as more withdrawing ahead with a slower wean. It depends on what you can handle. Happy New Year. To better times!!!

by skipper, Jan 02, 2002 12:00AM
hey people:

wellbotrine and l-tyrosine are well tolerated togather. Welbutrine

is not an SSRI.

started a detox dec 31 and am now in day 3. what a way to start the

new year! don't know how long it will last, but will see.

keep an angel on your shoulder!

by erotisy, Jan 02, 2002 12:00AM
To: Everyone/kip
I CAN'T tell my dr. anything!! I just cant. I usually can find anything, (streets), but that  sounds like a hard one.. I'll see what I can do. By the way I do have a script of valuim.. its a mild one but I've taken it before Jonezen..it helped alittle. Ya,i hope everything will work out, Im sick and tired of being sick and tired..............erotisy

by alchemist, Jan 02, 2002 12:00AM
Sorry to bust in on the thread.  But I keep seeing the term "jonesing" what does it mean?

by Telby, Jan 02, 2002 12:00AM
To: alchemist
It's an old junkie term, means to crave drugs, or often the term used for when withdrawl starts.  Don't know where it came from but it's been around a long time.  A drug "Jones" Telby

by erotisy, Jan 02, 2002 12:00AM
keep up the good work skipper!! I'm here if you need to vent or talk !!  As for my Question with taking the recipe/wellbutrine....THANKS A MILLION....Ok so the only thing I'm waiting for is to find out if I should taper down my doses then start the recipe...or do both.. let me know....Jezzzz I'm starting to get really scared about trying to detox again.. Its like making your self jump in a pit of fire..either you'll come out ok..or you really get burned...I'm trying but that little devil inside my head is fuckin with me again....talk to all u later......love erotisy

by skipper, Jan 02, 2002 12:00AM
To: Erotisy
Erotisy:

if fear is causing you to have second thoughts, then it's time to

stop listening. Ya want fear calling all the main "shots?"



add to your detox material a Rx of klonipam. even if your using

anotber benzo to sleep. klonipam will give it's user a sense of

"wellbeing." Just the thing to ward off panis attacks that always hit ya' square in the guts! In fact klonipam is the only benxo i've been taking.

monday night was like dante's enferno.cold burning flesh and gut

cramps were the feature.my wife and i watched sci. fi channels

marriathon of "Twilight Zone." i don't know if that was the best mood setter!

yesterday felt much better. i was even able to eat soup for sup-

per.

today i have this sensation of waking up from a narcotic coma. i'm

still the same person as when i'm stoned except i'm mot as "nice"

(as my wife puts it). she seems pleased to have the real "me" back

for  however long.

best of luck with any who attempt a detox-remeber attitude is the

only thing we actually have control of



keep an angel on your shoulder!

kip

by erotisy, Jan 02, 2002 12:00AM
To: kip
well your doin good I see.. Do I have to get a script for that klo.. thingy?

one of the things differant we have, is me and my hubby get along AWSOME when I'm on stuff.. Its me I know!! I'ts like I talk myself into feeling better about my life, marriage, everything when I'm on stuff. Thats the big thing I need to overcome..not just the addiction. I'm scared of loosing my marriage when its all said and down, ya know? It hasnt been that great for awhile... but when I'm on stuff, its like were all better, good sex, we talk alot, do stuff together... we need to work on our problems not hide them..I know all this already.. its a matter of just dealing with it all....erotisy

by alchemist, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
To: ssfr
were is the other forum that you mentioned?

by skipper, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
To: SSFR
SSFR:

such a pleasure to hear fromy you on any forum! I agree completely

with you about klonipin (or any other benzo) being dangeriously

addictive. detox and common sense must travel togather to reach

a positive outcome.



about you SSFR:

i seem to recall something about you and detox. if i'm right, how's

it going? I'm in day four of too many mg. of oxy 3 times day detox. the only bad night was new years eve.i felt like something out of

Dante's Inferno. it only lasted 5 hours. the rest has been so easy

i keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. best of luck with your

detox, if you are doing one.

now you should know enough to keep an angel on your shoulder!

kip

ps tell all the people who migrated to the new forum--i really miss

them--wish we could get more than an occasional comununication from

them!

by skipper, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
sorry to depart soo qick but old "opium jones" just blew a force 9

gale into my colon. is this the best he's got for day 4? plan on

waiting till daylight to walk "meaty-boy my overweight Keeshound.

this breed of dog thrives on cold weather (no shortage of that

here!). poor boy's had his nose in the air a week before it came.

one man's curse....

love and need you all

keep an angel on you shoulder

kip

by erotisy, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
ok so it looks like my vallium won't do the trick huh? Do you think I could get the klon. script by using another reason? Is it only given for detox or things like that?

Thank you guys alot!!! all this info, and support does wonders for my head these days. Your very right about me being scared, I feel like I'm about to go down a huge roller-coaster with no seat belt on..

I'll be checkin in later..thanks again.

P.S. I think my angels on my shoulder is all of you people!!!!!

by Telby, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
To: Skipper
Well a walk in the cold with the pooch will definatly let you know if the dragon is with you.  Best of luck and please know that you are my hero.  love, Telby

by skipper, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
To: Erotisy
Erotisy:

valume will work very well. It's nice to have both, but one or the

other is beter than nothing! the first couple nights will be rough,

but stick to the zink, b complex, anf l- tyrosine, and the rest is

pretty easy.(ha,ha)

keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

by skipper, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
To: Telby
Telby:

i always know when jones is around-see he doesn't take a bath-

hates the feelin of water on his skin! let me tell ya it was like

6 below zero! Dutch (meaty-boy) loved it. he is already looking

like he's ready for the afternoon walk. i return to work next mon-

day. the Thursday after see the pain Doc. we'll just have to see..



keep an angel on your shoulder



kip

by butterbeans, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
To: eroictisy
Don't let the drug control your reactions and interactions with your husband. I did that. You will make a bad mistake.  If he loves you, and you know it, confide in him and ask for help.  If you aren't sure he can handle it, seek outside treatment. I have been there and have hurt so much from my mistake!

Love butterbeans

by erotisy, Jan 03, 2002 12:00AM
To: Everyone/butter
my hubby knows my problem.. he's very supportive. ok here's the real deal no sense in hiden it any more, my hubby is disabled. He suffers from chronic back pain..he's got 3 crushed vertabrae, he will and is medicated for life.. he's due for back surgery this year.. so the real poop is I started taken oxy's, with him when I had my hysterectomy..it helped the pain..UNREAL!! I was addicted. I've had a hard time with my health the last 3-4 years, cancer, 4 surgerys..then hysterectomy, foot