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question on withdrawal?

by OxyDout, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
hey guys, I know I have been posting often so most of you know my situation. it has been 3 weeks now, and I have only stumbled twice, both times were minor, I used only 20mg of oxy the first time, which was about 2 weeks ago and the second time was a little worse, I took 20mg at night and then a little less then 20mg in the morning, I never really felt anything from them just enough to keep going. However, that was this past fri. and sat. morning, now for the last couple of night I have been dealing with the restless leg and a little of the sweats although I'm slowly starting to get rid of them.  so its been about 3 days since I last had anything (20mg) and I'm struggling...amazingly I'm doing very well with work and my girlfriend as well. I think they are the two things keeping my head on straight.  Any words of wisdom.......



GWH
Member Comments (54)

by skipper, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: GWH
GWH:

it will get beter... just keep in mind that what you are doing

isn"t going to be perfect..but it very well may be the simplest!



are you on zink, magnesium, copper supplements? they can really

make a difference!



keep an angel on you shoulder

kip

by jennyfla, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: GWH
You sound really great, keep up the good work.

Thank god for the subtle reminders showing you that you don't want to go back there!

Keep focused, take life a minute at a time if you have to.

Try the supplements as Kip suggested!

Good luck!!

Lv Jenny

by OxyDout, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: kip/jennafly
thanks for the comments guys, I need to hear those things...... i'm worried about tonight, I have plans with my girlfriend and I have this feeling my leg will act up and that is the worst situation to be in..... I just hope it will be fine....

thanks again, i greatly appreciate your posts.



GWH

by AnnieS, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: GWH
You sound like you're doing great. Keep up the good work. The vitimins really help me too. I do have a question for you though. I think my boyfriend relapsed this weekend. Nothing major but pinned eyed and some nodding. You mentioned your girlfriend being there helps you. Well when I questioned him on it he denied it of course. Said it was from taking Lomotil(prescribtion for diahera) and some zanax. Looked like some opiates to me. I didn't leave but he got mad at me for not believeing him. I know he loves me and he said that he can't do it without me. I exersize with him, we go to meetings together, spend some time laughing once again. But I can't stand to see him using. I am finding it soooo very hard to leave but do you think he would be better off without me always keeping him in check. I know I can't stop him from using and he was great last night. looked very clean. But I don't want to be there when he isn't. Does your girlfriend keep you in check or should I back off and let him go. He threatens to give up completely if I leave him but I also don't want to enable him. And I need to stay clean. I will have 90 days on the eleventh. I don't know what to do. Any insight or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Praying for each and every one of us. annie

by OxyDout, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: annie
unfortunately, my girlfriend doesn't necessarily know all my truths about addiction........ needless to say I didn't feel like explaining all of it. ( I know its awful ) she keeps me sober because now that I have been sober for a little bit, I realize what she means to me and how my life revolves around her.  I don't ever want to go through withdrawal and have to avoid her or have to lie to her ever again which is what is keeping me sober.



in your situation, keeping on him won't do anything, he has to want to stop, if he doesn't then your efforts are useless.  Tell him that he needs to want it, if he does then let it go and see what happens, if you think he is using again, then its in your best interest to be on your own.  Good luck, post often and let me know what you think.  



GWH

by skipper, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: annies
annies:

addiction is complex disease for people who like to make things

complicated. i'm an addict and drugs or not sometimes i have a

great deal of difficulty just leaving well enough alone.



90 days!!! that's great. if your boyfriends using threatens your

abbility to stay clean,run away from him as fast as you can. of

course you can choose to stay by his side (i'm sure he has other

things going for him).



my wife is a recovering addict. i'm 50 and i've been using drugs

since i was 13 or 14. i did manage to put 17 continious years of

clean time in, but i'm back on the hell bound train. taking my

oxycontin as i am supposed is the hardest thing i will ever do.

even when i take as directed, i still will nod and i get pinned

pupils. this is very upsetting to my wife, and that really tares

me up.



two addicts in a serious relationship might work if at least one

of them is clean. if they are both using forget it! i've been

there and it's not pretty and it sure isn't simple.



i can't tell you to leave or stay with this guy. thats a decision

you have to make and live with. if you do stay with him, estab-

lish boundrys. if he is on the nod, get away from him (he really

has no use for you in that condition).



remember there are two truths about addiction:

1) not every addict lives thru addiction.

2) not every addict will find complete recovery



kind of cruel, don't you think? sorry i didn't make these rules,

i just have to live by them.



keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

by OxyDout, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: kip
your are very knowledgeable and have been of great help, I'm curious at to your profession.....????? dont have to give details just curious.... thanks again for always being here.



GWH

by littleguy, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: annies
This is hard to admit but I guess it wont be shocking to most folks that pass this way.  Here is what I did when my girlfriend said that I could have either her or the drugs.  I bought more drugs, hid them from her, she found them, I lied about it, we fought and she did not leave me.  My interpretation: I can use as much drugs as a I want and there will be no new consequences for my relationship.  Be very careful...  And most of all, if you give he an ultimatum, stick to it.



littleguy

by skipper, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: GWH
GWH:

my profesion....boy thats a good question. most of my life i've

been a drug addict (full time 24-7) i used to support my habit

by breaking into drug stores. about the time i thought i'ld

never get caught i did. the only thing i can say i'm proud of

myself back then is i never threw down on (snitch) anyone.



in college i majored in theatre production (not many jobs you can

get with that) today i work at a small midwestern university

(16000 students). I work in the field of data communications. i

have always been good with electronic weather it is an e-switch

or a burgler alarm.



but still... my main lifetime profesion is drug addict and thief.

but that isn't all there is to me. today i think of my drug

addiction as a side note. yes i'm a drug addict and will always

be one, but there are many things about me besides that.



hope i shed some light

keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

by zoe1, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: Annies
I know what it is like to care about someone who is fighting a battle with addiction;  it is very hard.  There are times when your entire life becomes wrapped up within the addict and you lose touch with yourself and your own best interest.  This hurts both of you.  You need to take care of yourself and do what is best for YOU.  And, the addict deserves the dignity and respect to be allowed to make his own decisions and then live with the consequences of his own actions.  When I am tempted to check up on the addict or question him about his actions, I need to remind myself to check my motives.  Often, I find that I am going into an area that really isn't any of my business and that I need to step back.  You can serve as an example and hopefully he'll see a brightness and hope in your eyes that he wants to have.  Then, he'll need to take the steps (himself) to reach that place.  



by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
To: GWH
It sounds to me that you are doing the "doable"! Try to be patient with yourself and give yourself a little pat on the back once in a while. Just do whatever it takes to stay the course. Only you know what that means and entails. If you are determined to make it, you will. One way or another.



J.B.

by changedman, Jan 08, 2002 12:00AM
I have been on oxycontin 2 80 mg day and 1 40 my day, for 2 years, it has changed my personality, makes me tired, sleep late all the time, I am tired all the time, it has helped my pain though, but I still experience breakthrough pain.  I want to decrease and get off this oxy, the DR agreed with me, I am starting to go down 40 mg a day, but I get worse headaches, muscle aches and very very nervous , I have done this for 3 days now and it is really tough, is this typical, what do I have to look forward to? I would appreciate any feedback or suggestions how to handle this.  thank you very much

by CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!, Jan 09, 2002 12:00AM
Hello my friends!!! Remember me? My name is Chad..I just got back from a detox facility for the last 7 days. I was wondering when I could expect to feel somewhat normal again? Sound like a dumb question but I am doing all I can to avoid a relapse. The doctors wanted me to go on methadone maintance. Some of the patients there highly reccomended against it. Any suggestions as to what to do? I am sick of using/detoxing    HELP     Chad

by skipper, Jan 09, 2002 12:00AM
good morning:

well it's day 10 no oxy. i am in such incredable pain. it's in-

between my shoulder blades and down my right arm. funny thing

about spinal injurys is that they usually  hurt where the pro-

blem isn't.



Chad from Philly:

you probabaly don't remember me. as far as the jump juice (meth-

adone) clinic route be careful. Methadone is a life changing

option, that could very well last the rest of your life! Be real

careful picking a clinic you like, cause your gonna deal with

these people at least once every day! my expierence with clinics

has been very negative. i've told you all this before though.

have you tried working out at the gym since you got out of detox?

exercise really helps fight the desire to pickup again. anyhow

i was pleased to hear from you. i hope you find peace and har-

mony.



keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

by OxyDout, Jan 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: kip
sounds like that angel is glued to your shoulder....... good work........ I do have a question though......what do you do for the pain.  hope all is well, i'm sure it is, sounds like you have great will power, I'm on my fourth day of nothing besides advil, I take a couple in the morning and a couple at night to try and subdue the pain in my lower back, my legs ache to, not anymore though, today I feel relatively well.  Talk to you soon.



GWH

by J.B. to Brian and Vicky, Jan 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: Chad from Philly
I wondered where you've been these last several weeks. I recall that you had gotten off of OXY's and was into heroine. Now you have detoxed and are wondering how long it will take to feel normal again. It takes at least three months so be patient. You might try counselling, group therapy or a shrink during this critical time in order to prevent a relapse.



A few years ago, I went through a detox and inpatient program that lasted 30 days. I thought I was going to die during this ordeal but made it through. After graduation day, I wanted to feel "normal" so I stopped at the pharmacy and got a refill for 60 Lortabs and a sixpack of Bud. Well you can just imagine what that led to after $7000 worth of treatment!



The point is that we have to rebuild ourselves from the ground up. What we think is normal today, is not. Think about it for a while and maybe it will come to you.



J.B.

by skipper, Jan 09, 2002 12:00AM
To: GWH:
GWH:

what have i been doing for pain control? not much. if you asked

Irish Rose (my wife) she would tell you i've been pissing and

moaning a lot! i can tolerate the pain i'm in, but only for a

very finite length of time. i like to think of my current and

previous detox as vacation from drugs