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Difference between Oyxcodone § Hydrocodone

by Bink, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
I am currently tapering from Oxycodone and my "BIG Day" is Thursday, the 13th of Feb.  I have heard that Oxycodone and Hydrocodone are pretty much interchangeable, BUT... It sure doesn't feel that way to me.  I was trying to taper with some 5 mg Lortabs rather than the oxy, and it was as though I were taking nothing more than Tylenol.  Even a 5 mg. percodan helped the nausea more than 15 mg. of the hydros.  Will I have to find more OXy to take this hell away?  Hubby and I have a 4 day weekend to detox, Fri - Mon. and I'm not eager to be thrown into this before we get the time off work!!!!

P.S.  I wanted to respond to Madeline, but max comments were reached. :-(



Thanks,

Denise
Member Comments (26)

by HarleyCat, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: Denise
Hey, Hon, how are you?  That is a good question, because I have wanted to know that, too.  I'm sorry I don't have any answers.  You will be in my prayers this weekend.  Lots of love and positive energy coming your way!!  Connie

by Bink, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: H. Cat § anyone else
Connie,



You are so very, very sweet!  Thank you for your kind words.  You are a special person.  I've read your encouragement to VicQueen and others on this forum, and you really have your heart into us.  I can't tell you what a difference it makes to know that there are others like you out there to be able to talk to.  This morning I have to leave to go help my Mom take care of my Dad, who just had hip replacement surgery.  I have got to act "normal" and strong.  The last thing that I want them to worry about is catching the "flu" from ME.  I can't explain to them what is really going on.  Hopefully after this weekend, this nightmare will be over and I can get on with normal living.  



I'm hating this max thread thing!!!  I feel guilty about posting for fear that I'm taking away from all of the others the chance to post.  Anyways, I'm kinda new here -- well a month or so new anyway.  Maybe those who feel inclined could just email me in addition until they can get this forum expanded or whatever.  My email address is ***@****.  Those are ONE's NOT L's in kelly.  I am anxious to talk to someone, specially you, Connie.  I am getting soooo scared about this detox.  I didn't expect to start into withdrawals this soon.  Our old source has dried up until next week (too late).  I really wasn't expecting to get sick and all of that.  I didn't think that 30 to 40 mgs a day of Oxy would be that hard to get off of.  NOW I'M FREAKING OUT!!!  I have alot of anxiety over this, but can't afford ( in any sense of the word) to keep this habit!



Plus...I've recently quit smoking cigarettes!  Sorry, I'm just feeling sorry for myself and acting selfish.



Denise

by Erika_Ann, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: blue501**** Read
Wow how profound. What a great comment you made. You seem to already have it together! From what you wrote you seem to know what path you need to go down. Just keep listening to your inner self. You seem to be strong to me. And this forum has and does help us all. We are all here for you. THis forum has truly been a blessing to me more than anything. You have really come a long way and you deserve to be happy. One thing I want to say to you is that I dont have children and Im 31. Im not going to have any due to my arthritis and how bad it gets I dont want to put a child through the pain I inderred my self when I was diagnosed at age 11. So what Im trying to say is that you have really done it all. Having a child and trying to take care of YOU really takes alot. I couldnt even imagine.! So congrats to you and how far you have made it. You deserve to know that.

We all care about you...... Luv ---Erika

by BLUE501, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: erika_ann
Thank you for the post. You really made me feel great. I have and continue to try to be positive. I find that talking with others really helps. To be able to share my trials and tribulations with another person, and share what has worked and what has not worked for me, makes me feel real good. This has not been the easiest journey, but i have always said that I do not regret anything I have done in my life because wether it be good or bad, they have made me who I am today. I do look for the positive in a negative situation.



I feel good today. How are you doing? How is FINNISHED!!!!????



be safe

linda

by Nogods, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: Bink § all
Denise good luck with this comming weekend I wish you strength. I have been reading this board for a while now, never posting though. This OxyContin...(DownUnder)I had never heard of it when I was put on it last Feb, we don't have a problem with it being used on the streets like you do in the US, so I was nieve in accepting it...believe me I asked to be put on something not addictive as the stuff I was taking (Codiene) was giving me rebound headaches. I was told this stuff was not as bad for your body as the Codiene\paracetamol combination...I think you call it Tylenol there. Well by the August last year I had a problem...this stuff is Toooo flamin good! Not only does it kill all my back pain, but it makes you feel good at first. But for every good there is an Evil! I found this out..This stuff takes your soul..hard to describe..but I don't want to feel this way anymore..just want to feel normal in comparision to abnormal: sick, withdrawals, high, lethargic etc. etc. If you know what I mean.



So I have been hear reading while I have been weaning myself of this demon,(sick) and have been inspired by some people here and their almost superhuman strength battling OxyContin addiction of a much higher dose than mine..I have had none for 31 hours now (thats why I'm here in the middle of the night instead of sleeping)It's no fun and it dont get easier, every time you do detox, it gets worse..



Enough for now just here drawing some strength, and strength to you all

Peter

by BLUE501, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: bink
Hi Denise. I haven't talked with you in awhile. So, you're getting close to that BIG DAY. Be positive, I think you and your husband will do just fine. I am on day 20 or 21,(i don't remember) of a huge oxy and vic habit. I am feeling real good. I posted last night about how the hardest part for me now is changing my mentality. I can be my own worst enemy. I enjoy the "thrill" of the process. The getting, finding, lying, buying and using. Now I have to find a different, postive way to feed my need for that thrill. I am here if you have any questions or concerns. Good luck. And I would continue to taper with the hydros. What I did was lower my oc use, and then swith to only hydro's. It took about 3 days before my body adjusted to the lower level.



linda

by cleo101, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
Hello everyone



I have indeed made it to day six going cold turkey off 15 to 20 + vikes or loris or percs a day.



I am over the sick feeling but still nervous and pretty much cant think about any thing but how badly my back  hurts.



Started clebrex yesterday Non narcotic and forced myself to go to physical therapy even though i could barely get off the couch and heating pad.  I made it through half my normal exercises.  My chiropractor / dr physical therapist is the only one i have been honest with about the extreme amount of pain pills i have been taking.  of course he is not the one prescribing them to me. He seems to think with the extreme pain that i am having that the neurologist is missing something and wants to read my reports himself.  I literally can barely walk without the pain meds let alone sit or clean or do dishes.  



I have 2 small children that i have to take care of and i just can not see how i will be able to manage it with the pain and not being able to get around.  I can only sit in a car for 15 minutes without feeling like i want to die so i never go any where or do any thing any way except the PTherapy. Then after spending all day with the little ones the bigger ones come home from school and just throw their stuff every where.  



I know that part of how i feel right now is from coming off the drugs.  but i just cant seperate my feelings and the extreme pain.  



I know my tolerance built up over a 2 year period but there has to be something some one can do for me so i can function without taking 20 pills a day. This is not even counting the muscle relaxers and anti-inflamatory meds..



The pain clinic wants to try faccett blocks and i am willing to try just about any thing .



this is so very hard.  



I am praying i can keep strong because i know the worst is over now all i have to deal with is the after effects .  I havent even taken a darvocet since sunday.



God Bless you all and i am sorry for not posting for the content of the original post but i dont have any where else to go to express how i feel because no one i know would understand.

I cant get out for meetings because of the pain.  



Praying for you all



cleo101





by lifer, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: Everyone/blues 501
Hi everyone thanks blues I almost gave up last night my thoughts got pretty morbid I think the nights do that Im at day 4 with nothing coming off 160 to 240 oxycontin and the rest of the **** thst goes with it I feel pretty rough but I get periods where I can stand it a little better. Now Im craving more than I did when I was violently ill this thing is sneaky I dont trust myself. Dont even have the strength to hustle more drugs maybe thats ablessing good luck to you all I know what your goinmg through. been through this more than I care to think about. It just takes time kind of a drag isnt it.

by lifer, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: Bink
Unfortunately You have to be alittle sick to detox Thats why I could never taper on my own the vics are probably helping alittle

just not coverinmg all the symptons I dont know which is worse the long slow way or the violent short way of just jumping off.good luck .

by BLUE501, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: lifer
glad to hear you made it through the night! Another day down. I am at 20 or21 days. thank goodness. I hope you have a day of happiness!! How is everything today?



linda

by Erika_Ann, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: blue501
Thanks for asking. Im okay. Its a fight everyday since I have this disease and have to control myself of how much I use for the pain and seperate the depression and wanting of using all day and not dealing with it. Its alot of mental **** to deal with. If that made sense. I wish I knew how FINISHED!!! was doing I havnt heard anything. Thanks again for the reply.

Erika

by Vicqueennomore, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: Erika § all RE: FINISHED!!
Hi Everyone,

Heard from Finished's lady and he had a very rough night, stopped breathing again, bleeding ulcer believed to be the cause but with everyone's prays he has moved from ICU to TCU and was awake a little this morning. Docs say since he made it thru the night his chances of recovery are much improved. He knows everyone is praying for him and he thanks you.....

Erika - please email me.....

Love to you all!!

Tammy

by BLUE501, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
To: ERIKA_ANN
What disease do you have? I apoligize, you have probably said what it is and i missed it. I have degenerative disc disease and I'll tell you what, not taking pain meds is extra difficult when you are in chronic pain. I wish you well with everything



be safe

linda

by minime, Feb 11, 2003 12:00AM
I really miss the old forum and all the old members.  Has anyone found another place we could meet where there is not limit of comments?  I mentioned atwatchdog.org.  Is anyone else interested in going there?