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Ultram Withdrawl

by mrbobby, Mar 16, 2003 12:00AM
I have been abusing Ultram for the past 5 years, and am up to maybe 10 pills a day. I have tried to stop b4 but have such terrible withdrawl sx. that I don't want to go through that again, so are there any suggestions as to how i can avoid the w/d sx. Can I taper, add any natural supplements to my taper, etc. Please help.
Member Comments (55)

by vettezr1, Mar 16, 2003 12:00AM
I was reading all the posts and thought of something.

1: Everyone would love to stop taking drugs and be pain and WD free.

2: If that was the case why bother to stop, you could just use when you wanted and then stop, no big deal.

3: I feel your pain (really), I went through tottal WD from IV morphine CT after a long peroid of use.

4: It sucked more than a hot poker up the rear, but thats not a bad thing really becuase although I never thought I abused my meds I did become addicted.

5: Its been a few weeks the first week was pretty tough but I lived.

6: And this is my most important point, I will never take this **** again. Pain free would be great but it aint gonna happen without a price to pay, to damn high a price.

So some here say taper and some say cold turkey, I tried to taper and doc said I just prolonged my suffering and I agree so I just said **** it and stopped.

7: I can not address the craving part thank God I have none.

But there is a wealth of knowledge here and some can help with that.

As bad a you feel going through WD I have to ask how bad will you feel if you keep taking the pills?

Good luck.

by Olin, Mar 16, 2003 12:00AM
We all look for the least painful approach and the only one that exist if you've got the money is ultra rapid detox. But you waisting your 5-7 grand if you don't have the naltrexone implant done every 2 months for at minimum of a year and for those of you who go through detox the old fashion way the implant will increase your chances of staying clean and aid in the speed of physical recovery. have it done as soon as you sstart to get the slightest bit better which means your system is clean and starting to produce neurotransmiters again. The natrexone pellet implant cost but is worth it in the amount it cuts cravings if you can't aford the implant ask about taking it orally but you've got to take it. Recovery is up to you and no one will ever quit if they don't truly want it in heart body mind and soul.

by emmy22, Mar 16, 2003 12:00AM
I think i can offer you some advice on tapering. I have been addicted to painkillers off and on, but pretty much on, for about 5 years. it started when i was sixteen, and i was depressed at boarding school, and when i came home it escalated from there. let me start by saying that this is ONLY MY OPINION, and there are many options for withdrawing. i tried to taper about a year ago, and it was horrible. first of all, you HAVE to be very disciplined, and it is hard when you have that bottle of pills sitting there waiting to be swallowed. When a bad day arises, it is VERY EASY to think "i'll just take one extra, and then go back to tapering". Second of all, it prolongs the withdrawals. if you taper over, say, a month, then you will have some sort of withdrawals for that whole month. granted, they wont be as strong as cold turkey, but they will last for as long as you are tapering. If you go cold turkey, the worst should be over in three to four days, and the rest will be the mental addiction. When i went cold turkey, i took my last pill on a thursday morning (so the worst part of withdrawals would be over the weekend when i didnt have school or work). Thursday was kind of rough, and thursday night the restless leg syndrome kicked in. that is when you feel like you are so anxious and you have to keep stretching. could not sleep that night. friday i was very anxious, diarrhea, just felt like ****, but i got through work knowing i had the whole weekend to try and recover. friday night was horrible. couldnt sleep. anyway, by monday the worst of the withdrawal was gone. still a little anxious, but slept about four hours. hot baths REALLY DO Work with the restless leg thing. live in the bath for the weekend if you have to. rent lots of movies to take your mind off it. nyquil helps you sleep, and immodium works wonders for diarrhea. But definetely try to quit on a thursday, so you have the weekend, or if you have vaca time, take it. if you have any questions then write back...be happy to share with you. I just want to emphasize that im not a doctor, and im not an expert, just writing what worked for me for a 5-6 a day codeine and hydro habit. take care and good luck...ill pray for you. god does not let anything happen in our lives that we cannot handle. you can do this.

by theGolden1, Mar 16, 2003 12:00AM
To: Everyone Ultram vs opiates
I wish people would realize that ultram is NOT a regular opiate and has a much longer withdrawal period. There is no way that you are going to take a "weekend" and get clean. Ultram is different than any other drug including methadone. It is an antidepresant and it mimicks an opiate by affecting the same receptors in the brain. Two drugs for the price of one. Double trouble ...

Tapering from vicodin or morphine will actually prolong the withdrawal. It is wise to do a quick taper from the opiates(5 days of down dosing) and then stop the opiate. Use the Thomas receipe. For Ultram (tramadol) I recommend cutting the dose a 1/4 of a tab every 2 weeks. You will need to use tramadol and a pill cutter. Withdrawal will be almost nothing ... vague and fleeting. As you get closer to being drug free, you may need to stretch it out for 3 weeks. You have to take care of yourselves. Good nurishing food, filtered water and a low dose vitamin B. Build up your health. Stop for a minute and just taste one of the pills you are swallowing. That's what poison tastes like.

I am tapering again tommorrow, and if I keep going, I will be free in about 2 1/2 months .... now that turns me on! I am very determined and with God's help I will make it. I don't want to go on a different drug. When this is over, they can take their drugs and shove em ... some nerve the drug companies have! Lying about their products and creating dependency in unsuspecting people. They told me this medication was NOT addictive and a little stronger than an aspirin. I want my soul back ...and I will be victorious ... power to the people! ***@****

by sabian, Mar 17, 2003 12:00AM
To: Mr. Bobby
Ultram is just a *****, anyway you lok at it.  When I have been out of oxy's in the past, Ultram would keep the WD's to a minimal.  I've heard that if you take too many Ultram at one time, you can have seizures.  Be careful and try to wean yourself slowly.  Good Luck!

SABIAN

by handy, Mar 17, 2003 12:00AM
I was given 40 or 80 ultram a week along with percocets for about 4 months for after care for pancreatitus. I had no pain but loved the drugs. Have all my life. I finaly got sick of how easy it was to just pick up the phone and go get my drugs..Anyhow

I got off the stuff by calling my docter I layed it all out , how I abused the stuf and that I was a wreck. They asked how much a day I was taking. I told them 10 ultram a day and so they called me in 10 ultrams. the next day I called back and they gave me 9 and so on till I picked up one and I was done no sweat.

you do feel like a fool tho, everyday going to the pharmacy for your fix but they were cool and knew I was tryin to get off. That was wonderful to be free. Not for long tho since then I have quit vicodin twice the hard way. I am trying right now as we speak.

My bro inlaw is outa town and has a bunch of 10 mil vicos. He will be back tommoroe and  know I am going to go see him. So all this pain last night and today is going to be wasted. I think I will give a bunch to my wife and have her help me taper off. Why cant a person just be happy without this ****?

                       maury

by ldjohn, Mar 17, 2003 12:00AM
I agree with Goldie as far as the anti-depressant and it is different from the opiates like vicodin.  I can actually function pretty well taking 10-20 ultram a day.  It is amazing how much I can do. My husband calls them speed pills.  I wonder if that is true.  I never had as much energy with other painkillers like Ultram.



I have alot of hope to quit this drug but get disgusted because I had a good reason to take them in the beginning. I want to do it like the guy who went to the pharmacy every day but if I told my doctor I was taking up to 30 pills a day, I think he would be mad to say the least.



I did go through withdrawal over a 5 day period but I prepared myself for the worst and used Xanax (jumping from frying pan into the fire, but Xanax is not my drug of choice so I know when I wean off, it won't be too bad).  Anyway, ultram has this hold over me and I hear it in these many postings.



I want to keep using it but under control and in moderation.  Is that possible?  Anyone try Acupuncture or the suboxone way?  



Thanks for the words of wisdom, Goldie.

ldjohn

by theGolden1, Mar 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: Maury, Lisa, and everyone
Geesh ... I just read my post from last night. Sorry to get so

dramatic, but it irks me when I realize how many people are getting "taken" by the drug companies.



Maury ... You have a great idea for getting on top of the monster. (vicodin) If your wife is supportive, you can scale down to a small dose and quit in due time. Read all you can here and NEVER give up on yourself. Let me tell you .... if I was on vikes, I'd be free by now. That drug is alot more "mental" and causes cravings, etc. but ... the kick is 5 days. You will feel "down" for a month after ... but when you start feeling like your old self again you'll be a happy man (smile) I had to take vicodin for surgery about 3 years ago and it was tough realizing it was time to call it a day. I was able to cut down and finally quit. As soon as I got over it, I needed more surgery. That time I took the vicodin for 3 days post OP and stopped before the insanity started. My rheumatologist put me on ultram for fibromyalgia .... but I don't think I need it anymore and I want to try to live without drugs in my body. I hope it's not a pipe dream ...



Lisa ... You sound very motivated and I am happy for you. One of the guys here said that overcoming addiction is a marathon and not a sprint. Truer words were never spoken. Think long term and "You go girl!" .... luv, Goldie

by handy, Mar 18, 2003 12:00AM
I cant believe I found a place like this. Thank you everybody.

It feels good to talk to people that understand the happy/death pills. I havequit all the street drugs in the past and never had a problem kicking them like this ****. I know I can win after reading these posts and I think it may save my life. I own my own contracting buissiness and have wondered how sucesful I could really be without the pills. I thank you all again and will probly be posting again when the bugs are crawling outof my skin. After I posted yesterday my wife and daughter got home. I was a lunatic. I got a call from my inlaw she just happened to have some pilss andwould I likethem I sHouted out to my wife I had to go get drugs.( she is not a pill popper) she was stunned that I was so agitated .I broke down and told her I needed help but would need somthing NOW .She said go get them and so I did.

Just letting her know my secret made everthing seem so much more possible. Sorry  went on so long but all your posts gave me the power to try again. I will pull for all of you also.

   Adious aMIGOSE

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