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I need some help please!!!

by Erika_Ann, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
I have arthritis and fibromyalgia and i am a 31 y/o female. So heres the problem. I just had some pins removed from my foot and now have  stitches so Im waiting for it to heal and get better and have no more medication left. Im so sick and tired of this rollar coaster of pills no pills. I detoxed about  a month ago and now i was on about 7 vic es a day until last night. Am I going to go through the same damn withdrawls as before? I cant go the rest of my life without pain med because of this disease. I have to have it sometimes and sometimes I dont need it at all. Sorry if Im rambling ive very frusterated. All I have to my name is paxil cr. Will that help at all with anything? I have no insurance so i guess i will do this cold turkey. Im scared and alone. Any advice would be great. Your all so wonderful and supportive here. I just need a shoulder right now.

Thank you for any imput you may have as for what for me to do. Oh, and Im on Enbrel. (doc its a shot I give myself 2 times a week) for the arthritis!

Oh, so much fun!!!!!

Erika
Member Comments (43)

by vettezr1, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Everyone,Erika_Ann
I have been in chronic pain from many surgeries over the years.

Many of us here have been faced with chronic pain and then the WD's when we get feedup with the pill game. I just went to what is suppose to be a very good pain managment clinic today in Conn.

No lie the doc tried talking me into taking a script for 280 Oxy's. Her thinking was I have no trace of an additcive personallity, however I am not imune from WD if I stop taking the Narc's. So I declined her offer. That said, she did try to help anyway and talked me into trying something called Topamax.

Its non Narcotic and has no dependency and if you look it up on the web it seems to be targeted for what you have?

Paxil I don't know maybe someone else can help.

To all the Extreme sports guys here I will let you know if this works, We are now getting ready for Dirt Bike season.

Oh and she also told me that if I had tappered off the meds instead of the CT route I would not have suffered so much!!!!

So maybe there is something to the taper method. To late for me but maybe someone else reading this will benifit.

Good Luck.

by Erika_Ann, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: vetzer1
thank you for the encourgment. I think when I get insurance that will be the first thing i do is go see a pain mgmnt doc. Do you think that is a good idea for me? I appreciate your fast response. Its nice to know I can count on someone.

Thank you so much

Luv-Erika

by vettezr1, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Erika_Ann
Pain Doc can be good if you have an open mind and and are willing to be honest with them. Some people need Narc's for pain and will the rest of there lives. It was my choice not to use Narc's becuase they made me sick and its pretty hard to race Jet Ski's and Dirt Bikes, when you are numb from Narc's

I am trying this other Med and will let everyone in pain know if it works. I also accept that I will never be 100% pain free.

As far as the WD you fear, think of it as a bad case of the flu

I did the cold turkey route becuase its my personality, tough guy stuff. But if you are scared or hurting maybe you can go to

ER and ask for help,??? I wish I could offer more but others here will jump in.

by dancinginthedark, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
I'm craving those 5 fiorinal sitting on the bathroom counter so I cleaned the kitchen, read through most of these posts & alas, am waxing philosophical!  Apologies in advance.



On this forum there is much discussion on the struggle to stay sober, the common view holding that ongoing sobriety is more difficult than striking that beast the death knell.  While my personal experience certainly validates this assertion, I wonder why this is so.  One explanation proffered is that we start to delude ourselves, believing we can "have just one".  LOL.  But *why* is this so?  If that destructive substance has finally & agonizingly vacated our beleaguered bodies, why then do we sit our ass back on the fire?  Is the craving inherently physical, or psychological?  



Naturally, such questions have been pondered at great length by the scientific community, so what the heck do we know?  Probably a lot more than textbooks and pontificating theorists.



I feel I'll have a better shot at sobriety if I can start to understand what is driving my craving car.



Besides, I'm a firm believer a rousing discussion is good for the soul.:-)



Bring it on.....



Dancing in the Dark but Looking for the Light



by Chezz2, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
Dancing,



I love a rousing debate as well. Except when the constant use of 10cent words gets in the way of the direction of the sentence. Perhaps 5cent words would do better.  It might also conceal the authors unfeazable bout at trying to conceal their zeal for recognition. ;)



Chezz

by dancinginthedark, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Chezz
Jeez, I'm really insulted.



I thought I was using 25 cent words.



Thanks for the tip.



Dancing

by Chezz2, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Dancing
Well at least you are still Dancing!

Hopefully you have a smile to go with that. Cause you are right, they were worth a quarter. I forgot about inflation. ;)

I figured if anybody would get it, it would be you. :)

I like you writting and views. Just thought a little fun was in order...

...and like I said, you stillllll dancing>>>>>>>>

Chezz

by Chezz2, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Dancin'
Dancing,

I just read below about your current situation. Sorry to hear about that. I hope you got the humor in my post. I definetely wouldn't have gone there knowing where you are at right now with the F.

I hope you are doing alright. I am here to listen if you need an ear to lean on...

Chezz

by dancinginthedark, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Chezz
Well, ya shure like toque the wind out of my sales cuz I had in my hed ritten a new won that was fur ppl who are cheap abowt wurds.



It sizzled kinda like stake on thu BBQ.



I ment 25 cent wurds cuz I ment I wuz triying two rite reely reely big wurds.  Guess you dint get my meening n I forget n'flation. :-)



:-)



With that said, dare you opine?  



BTW; I too have always enjoyed your posts.



Does this mean we are betrothed?  I mean, uh...goin' tugethu??



Dancing Faster Than Some!

by Chezz2, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Dancin
Dancing,



Good post there girly. I think we will have to wait for matrimony though!!!! ;) ;(



Hope you are getting along alright without the F.



Chezz



Your posts make people think. That is endearing. Although I must say, inflation is a *****. he hee ;)



Dancin' with the lights on!

by Nod, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Erika Ann
I suffer from a somewhat rare form of arthritis as well.  My spine, shoulders and hips are trying to fuse together. Neat! I'm 38 and been fighting it for 13 years now and winning the battle. Most of the time I look and feel pretty normal, when have flare ups I'm basically crippled. Can be a ***** on the mind going from one extreme to the other.  



The doc is right, Enrel will help but it is also good to combine this with methotrexate.  Have heard this combo can be very good & don't believe the Methtrx8 if real expensive but I could be wrong  You should also get on a NSAID like celebrex or vioxx.  All non addicting.  If you get insurance and still struggling, Remicade transfussions are another option but its expensive.  I still haven't felt like I need to go that route yet.  



Hang in there, as many with RA, Fibro or related auto immune diseases say "I know how it feels!"  Nod

by hippy, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: erika ann
hey there erika,

finding a good addiction doctor/ pain management doctor

would be a good start, im sure you are doing  something

regarding this part of the solution.

one of the most helpful things is the encouragement we get

from each other.

reaching out to share our experence  and anything positive

with others  is quiet helpful.

i hope you find some answers here at this fourm along with

encouragement.

as we get on the road of change , things get better little by little.

some days tho it seems like we take 1 step foward and 2 backwards

we need to stay focused on what we need and want to acheive,

in this road of frustratyion and suffering.

hopfully there is good things in your future.

keep posting and asking questions

peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy

i hope your feeling better

by dancinginthedark, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: Erika Ann
Erika,



I've been thinking about you & wondering how you are faring limping around.  You must be feeling pretty miserable.



Well, we're here for you so please let us know how you're doing & hang in there!



Or at least me!!!



Best,



Dancin'

by hippy, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: dancing
how are you doing tonight

peace!!!!!!!hippy

by dancinginthedark, Mar 27, 2003 12:00AM
To: hippee
Hey there,



I've been so long enjoying your posts, especially your poems.  I'm delighted to have officially made your acquaintance!



How am I doing tonight?  Good question.  Still buzzing from fiorinal & trying not to think how I'll fare for the next 4 days.  Today, I've done little but research addiction/fiorinal & bop back to this forum.  As I'm sure you know, you can't c/t off fiorinal & I am NOT someone who can taper.  I have tried as many times as I've refilled my scrip & I think today, finally, after I don't know how many yrs.,I finally realized I just can't do it.



Since I've done this virtually every wk., I'm not concerned about seizures, espec. since I've been on neurontin for 3 wks. Perhaps I don't have them because I have so much F floating around my system.  Or, enough to keep me going until my next refill. Without it, I'll just be lethargic, listless, sleep too much & have a MO-FO headache.  



Twas ever thus...:-(



They say the danger of seizures disappears after 5 days & I *so* much want to just end this madness.  It's exhausting.  I'm UP for 2-3 days & DOWN the duration.  My doc is adamant that I continue the detox & all the literature concurs.  But he doesn't know I binge & I haven't the heart or courage to tell him.  



Sometimes I feel as though I'm pushing a rock up a hill with a rope.  But I know I will get thru this & I cannot begin to tell you how supportive I find people like you.  I guess I'm just having a bad day as too many harsh cold realities have come to steal me from my F induced reverie.  



How are you?  You are always so positive, kind & inspiring.  Tell me how you are doing and how you keep such a strong and focused spirit.



Best wishes, Hippee



Dancing in the Pitch Black (Today!)

by teeitup, Mar 28, 2003 12:00AM
To: Erika-Ann, Finished
Hello Erika-Ann, sorry your have a tough time right now. I'll be thinking about you!



Finshed - Check your email bud!



Teeitup!

by Erika_Ann, Mar 28, 2003 12:00AM
To: dancin*dmess68*teeitup*hippee* all*
You all made me cry. What support I have. THank you from the bottom of my heart