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mushrooms

by smkylngs, Mar 30, 2003 12:00AM
if you are allergic to mushrooms with you be allergic to the drug shrooms
Member Comments (22)

by Chezz2, Mar 30, 2003 12:00AM
You are at the wrong place for that questions. You are also taking up valuable question space for those who need help, support, and answers to questions that are pertanate to this forum.

Seek you drug using questions elsewhere. Such as druguse.com



by finkboy, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
I agree Chezz2, and since this thread is already toast, allow me to hijack it.  I ingeseted my last dose of Percs on Friday at around 4:00pm. and this is the first time I have been able to be upright long enoug to even thing about posting.



What a ***** this experience has been!  I still can't think clearly enough to put it into words.  The sad thing is, if I had a pile of percs in front of me, I would hop on that train and not look back.



On the other hand, there seems to be a clarity emerging that I have not experienced in quite some time.  I have to hold on to that and realize that I can never be a casual or normal user.



I have a "Pill Group" today at 10 and then a session with a therapist at 4.  Somehow there is an emptiness, like you just lost your best friend.  How will I be able to face the day without being all doped up?  I guess thats' where the one day at a time thing comes in handy.  The only thing I can do is worry about NOW and take it from there.



P.S.  Can you really score on line from those Mexican pharmacies? :) JUST KIDDING

by pammy0690, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
To: finkboy
You are lucky to have a pill group.  I assume that is an NA proup for pillheads?  I have suggested starting one in my town to help all of the people I know who have been affected one way or another by pills.  

WOW! Since 4:00PM Friday no pills huh?  Very good dude!  You are well into day three.  Awesome!  Now is the hard part but keep telling yourself you are almost there.  Day four is a tough one.  I hope you got the L-Tyrosine because that will help lift the "brian fog" that will set in.  

I want to be the first to congratulate you on a great acommplishment! Well done bro!  Pammy

by finkboy, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
To: Pammy
Thanks for the encouragement!  The pill group is through Kaiser.  For those of you who have Kaiser available as an option, I highly suggest you look into their CDP unit.  They are warm, caring and compassionate.



I still feel like my nerve endings are exposed. A little shaky and dizzy too.

by pammy0690, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
You feel like your "hair" hurts?  Been there done that!  Good luck to you and you will feel better soon! Post later and let us know how your group and counseling session went!  Pammy

by percsnomas, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
To: finkboy
Yes, i want to echo Pams' congrats!!! Just even take it minute at a time, if you have to.

I remember exactly day 3-4, vibrating on our couch....completely incapacitated(after dragging myself out of the hot-tub for the 30th time in 3 days), watching my wife and two lit'l ones doing crafts at the kitchen table, thinking how lucky i was to have a wife that was/is so supportive......cause after all, she was doing all the "work".  Well doesn't it turn out that they were making daddy a get well card, with outlines of each of their hands cut out and pasted on the card, plus a bunch of hearts!!!

Right then, i knew i could make it( i still have the card here at work). It was a mother f&*ker for sure, but WAS IT EVER WORTH IT.....

So finkboy, use your "get well card" in whatever form it is in(maybe the posts from your friends here at the forum), cause you can make it too!!!



Hang In There Friend!!



percs(no more)

by pammy0690, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
To: percsnomas
That was beautiful.  You always know the perfect thing to say.  Pam

by Chezz2, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
Fink,



Congrats Buddy. You have made it through some of the toughest days and NIGHTS. I will say though Day 4&5 were the toughest for me. After that it was ALL UP HILL.

That is when I started realizing it was over and I was on my way.

I finally felt FREE at that point...

Congrats and know it just gets easier from here on out.

Regards,

Chezz

by percsnomas, Mar 31, 2003 12:00AM
To: Pammy 0690
......i think my wife would beg to differ......HA

by pammy0690, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
To: Percs
Does your wife kick you under the table when you say something ya shouldn't have?  My husband does that to  me. i am so happy that you still read this forum even though you have a lot of clean time.  You and Peazy cause we all benefit from your honesty and Peazy humor.  Thanks.  Pamela

by smkylngs, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
It was just a question I couldn't find anywhere else.. so instead of being ignorant because you don't know it, you could have said, sorry i dont know.

by finkboy, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
I had to call in sick today (yesterday was a government holiday) because the thought of having to deal with all that made me ill.



Now, on to the real problems: my new freinds depression and Mr. Score again.  I mean how sick is that?!?!  Feeling like life is not worth living without my little pills.  Physically I am doing better, but I dream about those pills and think of new and inventive ways to score them.



I should be elated since I am over the hump.  Do the cravings subside?  Shouldn't my wife and kids be enough to keep me from going down that path again?  In both groups I was in yesterday, they said to play out the tape to the end.  I admit, it is never a pretty ending.  Have I just lost my skills to cope without opiates coarsing through my veins?



I **** you not, I was already looking at those mexican pharmacies on line (stupid) and even looked for percocet on e-bay (even more stupid, if possible)



Now I have one of my "killer" headaches, and nothing to take for it since I abused my right to administer meds to myself.  I know I should feel proud of coming this far, but there is a part of me that wished I would have said nothing and allowed that tape to play itself out.  Shoot, I was only up to 5-8 a day right?  All my liver tests came back normal, so there was room to manuever.



Ahhh the mind of an addict.  Thoughts anyone?

by pammy0690, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
To: Finkboy
Dude you should be proud!  You are doing so good.  You are in the middle of the mental part though, and that is tough!  Try to distract yourself from the thoughts of scoring.  Lean on the ones you love and your groups they will help.  At your stage of withdrawal severe headaches are common.  They are called rebound headaches and they are a *****!  The allways come right when the RLS is starting to go away and when the depression is still with you.  Take some extra strength headache over the counter medicine and that should help. Fight the good fight bro!  Pamela

by finkboy, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
Now that I am unable to administer Percocet to myself, what do I do for legitimate Migraine headache pain (Well documented for over 10 years)



Are there other meds to try? (I've done imitrex, fioricet, darvocet etc...) Nothing worked like percs.



Do I get them from the hospotal on an as needed basis?  Do I live with the pain?



Any ideas?

by oxic, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
To: finkboy
How bout neurontin??



percs

by Thomas03, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
To: finkboy
It's unusual for Imitrex not to work on real migraines. Are you sure they're true migraine headaches as opposed to tension headaches?



Many people get "rebound" headaches when they discontinue or drastically cut down on opiates.



You may have to embrace some non-drug therapies for headaches. I know what works for me: a hot shower with the stream running down my head and neck; reclining with an ice pack on my forehead.



Thomas

by teeitup, Apr 01, 2003 12:00AM
To: finkboy
Congratulations on your success, I've been around the forum for about 6 months now and the members here helped me through the tough times your going through now.



I to have a legit pain problem besides the fact I've been getting high in some form for around 28 years (43 yrs. old now) and liked it. Then about 10 years ago Vicoden ES appeared, whow, could not smell it on you, did not have to worry about drug test at work etc. I thought I had found my purple haze for life. Wrong, before long instead of taking them for the physical pain, I was taking them for the daily pain of life.



This forum helped me realize if I wanted to keep the good family and job I have I better get my **** together. You have to learn to "use and not abuse" if you have legit long term pain