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Starting Buprenorphine on Monday - Questions....

by ColdInVT, Apr 18, 2003 12:00AM
Tags: Addiction
Hi - here is my deal.  I am 35, I have 2 children and have been married for 14 years.  I have a good job and a nice home.  Why is it that all I care about are percocets and how to get them?  I feel like the biggest loser.  I am up to 20 a day and have been doing this for over a year.  Prior to the past year and 1/2, I would use percocets for recreational use which soon started to spiral out of control and here I am today.  



I have decided to get off the percocets as I have a lot to lose at this point (including my health!).  I am, frankly, scared to death.  I only know how I am (personality wise) with percocets and am having a hard time seeing myself without them.  I hate myself for allowing this to happen to me.  I will start bup. on Monday and was hoping someone can tell me what to expect.  I am worried that I will get to this appt. (which is 3 hours away) and be sent home with nothing?  Will they start me on the bup. the same day?  I suppose it depends on the doctor, but I am really counting on this treatment to work.



I want/need my life back... Anyone out there know what the first appt. is like?  Please let me know... :)
Member Comments (39)

by pax, Apr 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: COLDINVT
We have a similar story. I am 34 yrs old,have a great job and a great house,not to mention a wonderful fiance and got custody of my 12 yr old son a yr and a 1/2 ago. Anyway,if you read my post prior to yours you can only imagine what a loser I felt like. (in regards to the amount I was taking compared to your 20 percs a day) I also had to drive 3 hours to get my scripts filled by a doc who wrote me a monster of a script due to the severity of my neck problems. I started 5 years ago and spiraled to the amount afore mentioned. I don't know about the drug you are going to try to get but all I can suggest is the road I went down which was cold turkey with a Clonodine patch and some Ativan. As I had mentioned in my prior posts it was two weeks of hell but with a caring wife which it sounds like you have you can be free in a matter of days. I am clean now for about 2 1/2 weeks and feel like a real person again.The anxiety is still hanging a little and my energy is not all the way back but I am not in that trap anymore.I am lucky to be alive! I can also suggest a jacuzzi or hot showers to ease the suffering but again just gut it out and get on with a normal drug free existance.You can kick it.If I can get off what I was taking......you can certainly get off what you are taking ( not to belittle your situation )just the more you are taking,from what I understand,the worse the withdrawal.Make sure to eat even a little every day and possibly short walks . I know it doesn't sound like much but it does help. I wish you the best of luck in your quest to quit.God bless

by hippy, Apr 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: cold in vt.
hey there, i was on 15 vikes perc a day,

then i found this fourm, about 15 months ago,

i have  1 year clean today, i went cold turkey

i used the thomas's receipe, it helped more than i can

put down in words. it took away the sever depression and

the tolol lack of energy.

the times i tried to detox my self never worked out because of the depression and enertia(lack of energy.

i am 43 years old and was clean for many years from speed and qualudes, i got clean in na.

i was not aware of how addicting vikes and percs were

when i started taking them for pain, as a matter of fact

i hated the way they made me feel, 2 thing in life that i hate

are dizzieness and nausia and the vikes dave me both of these

side effects, but my pain was so bad ,i had to take them

after a a period of time they no longer made me dizzy or nausiaous, ,my tolerence went up and then the doc said no more.

well i could not function with out them, and i had to work,

so i bought them on the street.

in the last year of useing them i llost 40 pounds , went from

225 to 185, paper cut took weeks to heal and i was so depressed

and life had lost its meaning and i just want to be clean agian.



now that i have been clean agian, i have to deal with

bad to sever pain, i found an addiction doctor and he prescribed

bub / suboxone  about 2 months ago i tried to get the scrip filled at 6 different pharmacies to no avil.

so now i am not in as much pain , so i gave up trying to get it filled. i still have the script in my wallet.

i sorta just took it to mean  that it was not ment to be.

i am sure if i tried harder i could get the scrip filled somewhere.



peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy

by mrmichael67, Apr 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: Sundara
They used naloxone to clean out your system.  They are going to put a pellet called naltrexone in your body.  I am not a big fan of it as it blocks all opiates, including the endogenous ones (endorphins) that make you feel better after a detox when your body starts to produce them again.  But, some people do need some insurance.  It is great that you got through the procedure successfully.  Many have a nightmare of a time with it.

by hairysoda, Apr 18, 2003 12:00AM
To: THE BEGGINING
I have been there and did that so not to worry, first of all whare are you from? im from south florida and there are quite a few places you can go here. my first experiance with bup the injection was just the same as yours except i was coming off of a 25 a day viciden habit. first of all you have to be starting withdrawals for it to work if you  took them to soon to your apt you might not get the correct effect your looking for since part of the drug is an agonist which would put you in severe withdrawals so make sure for example if you appt. is at let say 9am take your last dose at no later than 6 pm the evening before that will give you enough time. the bup is injections and suboxone is pills you put under your tounge. at first i had no shoice but to give myself injectins and that was the hard part but once i got over that i had no problem they showed me how in the office and they gave me my first shot and then i gave myself one in front of them. the first day i used 12 amps 2 amps at a time and quickly went sown from there in a matter of a few weeks until i was down to 2 amps a day and then it was very tough to go sown from there. you really dont get high from this stuff but it does give a lift a feeling of how can i ay energy i guess or maybe its just taking the edge away that feels good. ther is a withdrawal from the bup just like the percs but not quite so severe you do get the very lethargic thing but not the restlessw leg symdrom but the depression comes for two weeks so you will need support like na. im not telling you this to discourage you but really to tell you my experiance with it but you knoiw every one is different but i really never met anyone who was able to excape from feeling shitty. go for it, give it a try its better than doing the percs for the rest of your life and now that im doing the suboxone the insurance com is paying for it  so thats good. im still on the suboxone because i relaps shotly after my totaly ceaseation of drugs but i found that the suboxone and the bup took away my strong ergesand strong wanting for the drug but it also gave me constipation which i really had when i was taking pills and it ruined my sex drive and that is my magor problem now after 3 years so i wm going to start to taper off these and dont know what to epect but i hope someone is reading this that can tell me. good luck and anything else you want to know just ask as i will check back

by sundara, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
To: mrmichael67
hope i have your name right.  i went through a medically assisted detox through a program called Project Straight. Supervised by a medical doctor whom i and my caregiver were in pretty much contant contact. Yes, they basically knocked me out for four days which was the worst of the withdrawls. I was given valium, clodine(this help with the runs and vomit and gagging), halcion and some other pill(which was labled an anti-drepressant) to help me sleep, was first choice over halcion (excuse the spelling) . . . now i  have the implant which last for 7 weeks, pellet under the skin. . . then have option of pills.  So far so good. . . . my god i have been clean of vicodin and percocet for 11 days.after an 18 month everyday 8 pill habit to wake up with out that narcotic hangover is like being on the pink cloud !!!!! . . . .it is highly recommended to exercise and definitly try NA, and maybe something like paxil because we all know we have screwed up our bodys. . . .am hoping i have no problem with the implant , , , i have heard some scary stories , but have heard some good ones as well, and as of now it has kept any thought of using out of my brain (which was mashed potatoes for way to long) . .. .thanks for your thought and hope to talk to you again . . .

by mrmichael67, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
To: Sundara
I happen to be one who will most likely be on the meds for the rest of his life.  That is wonderful things worked well for you.  There are definitely people who have had a good experience with it.  The biggest thing is getting a good doc.  It sounds like you did.  A lot of docs are doing it now, but that doesn't mean they know what they are doing.  Some do, but some don't and that is scary and dangerous.  My advice would be for one to check up on their doctor.  See if they have a web site and read up on the good doctor.  This isn't like going to see a doctor for a cold.  People have died from this procedure.  I know they aren't dropping like flies, but a bad doctor can be very dangerous just by the nature of the procedure.  If you want to chat, you can e-mail me at ***@****.  I did have more to add, but I just had a brain fart.  Damn greenage will get you everytime.

by oldtimer, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
To: peaz/Everyone
hi, sorry to jump in the post, well you all know how hard it is to start a new one,peaz, again thanks for anwering my post last week,I was abusing my oxycontin for 4rs,(crushing) I was up to 5-6 80's a day,(not all at the same time)throughout the day,I was out with 3 days to go before being able to get my scripe filled, it was horrible, as you all know, I had perks to take, taking about 12 a day, it did not touch the wds'at all, that was when I posted and talked to peaz, I was crying and in horrible pain,so depressed, and ready to put myself in detox,(actually called one and they told me they detox with methadone) but afraid to take that step, I knew my life was out of control and SOMETHING had to be done one way or the other,this is what Iam doing right now,I got my script wednesday and since then have been swallowing them as directed,(not taking perks)this is the 4th day of swallowing them, I have absolutly no high at all,I'm not looking for that anymore,all I know is that Iam not having any wd's physically or mentally,and at this time that is all that matters, I have alot of things to work out in my head as to what my next step is going to be, all I know is for me to stop crushing them and take them as directed was and is a BIG step..it may be a small one, but a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned, I know that some will say that I can't do this and I'll end up crushing again, believe me I will not,I had hit what was MY bottom,I'm still not sure if I'm going to stop taking them all together, taking it one day at a time right now,what do you guys and gals think?? thanks for listening, take care all

Dee

by suzneedshelp, Apr 19, 2003 12:00AM
To: hippee dear
CONGRATULATIONS my friend!   WOw, one year ...when is your party?  Wish i could be there to celebrate with ya!

You have helped so many and are such an inspiration to us all.  As Jess says the definition of inspiration is "to breathe in the spirit"...and you do that for us all!

Love Suzie

by hippy, Apr 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: suz need help
hey suz, hows life.

you sound good , thanks for the post.

i hope you and your daughter are doing well.

down there in the tallahassie sunshine.

so how was the rehab. are you going to na meetings.

always nice to see you name  there posting.

peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy

by lisabet, Apr 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: hippy
Hi hippy - I think I've told you before, but want to say it again...CONGRATS on being clean for a year.  Always read your posts; they always inspire me. God bless you for sticking around after you got clean to help us who are more unfortunate. I truly think there's a special place in Heaven for people like you.  Love ya, Lisabet    HAPPY EASTER !!!

by hippy, Apr 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: thanks lisbet
thanks lis.

i think of us as all the same , in so many ways.

being addicted is no fun,it is a difficult road.

pain can be more difficult, because  there nothing we can do about it , sometimes.

getting clean is easier for some ,harder for some

staying clean is the same.

for me staying clean is easier for me, getting clean

was a problem.

being clean from drugs is something i cherish.

it is freedom to me.

drugs have always been an escape for me most of my life,

today i am not trying to easape anything.

we  have the tendency to glorify drugs, when in the end

they always took me to misery and not wanting to live

today is the solution, today  we can do something,

today we can make a difference. i have had many friends

die because of drugs and more than a few famly and relitives die

from abuseing drugs.

when i was a kid drugs were a way of life, i thought it was cool , i thought it was a good time while all the while i was

destroying myself. and my relationships.

when the drugs stop working , i guess that is a gift.

these days i have to take care of myself, like rest my body.

get hot baths , use ice for pain, stretch my limbs, and hamstrings.each year i get a little older , i have to deal with

more pain. i hope i never have to resort to meds for pain.

because i am so irresponsable and a glutton.



well  anyway happy easter, i hope you enjoy the day,

enjoy the fragrence of flowers, notice all the budding

trees, with there beautiful pink and red and purple and white

flowering. i love the trees in the spring time as they all come back to life

to top it all off i have a bunch of ducks in my yard,

they are fun to watch.

I HOPE YOU AND EVERYONE HAS A WONDERFUL EASTER



PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HIPPY



by peaz, Apr 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: Oldtimer
Hi ---Happy Easter!! I have to be away to relatives today but I didn't want you to think I was ignoring tou.....I will try to post tonite or in the morning for sure!!   A lot of us are gone or busy on the wkends, so hang in there, darlin'.    Talk to you later------Love, Peazy

by RobynBanks, Apr 20, 2003 12:00AM
To: ColdInVT