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CHANCES OF RELAPSE

by passenbyhubby, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
I usually go by passenby but I'm away now for my CT trip.I'm on my 5th day. Everything is about like everyone said it would be but less terrifying than what I imagined.I started using vicodins 19mos ago after my son died. He was 25 and it was a shock and a pain I had never felt before. I had vicodins for headache for years never did I abuse them. I used them for a headaches and found they help numb the pain in my heart. my dose climb to 6to8 a day.I thought it was time to stop only to find out I couldn't, I was hooked. My questions. Am I just has likely to have a relapse as anyone that has struggle with this for many years? Will I never be able to take vicodin again for what it was prescribed for? My depression is bad It has always been.Have I delayed my grieving? The last couple of days I have strongly remember why it all began? I need to know about my chance of relapse under these circumstances.
Member Comments (49)

by RCG, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: passenbyhubby
I am very sorry to hear about your son dying, Vicodin is something that helps to numb the pain and is very easy to turn to! I am very proud of your strength, it seems you have gone through quite a bit and you are fully aware of what needs to be done to stay healthy. I dont know if you believe in heaven but just keep in mind that your son is watching you and he is supporting everything you are going through right now. He is rooting for you just like we all are here! Good luck and you will be in my prayers!

by rodewc, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: fyah (JUDY), et al~FREY BOOK
Scary part is a (CHANCE OF) relapse is always lurking, but friends, lit, humor and willpower help, some helped me a little, some a lot.



I see from reading  another addiction board, that you (DANCIN-JUDY) received, enjoyed, have red/ and began a re-ead, after receiving free from me, "A Million Litttle Pieces," by Frey.



I am sorry you neglected to let me know you received the book. That was all I had asked you do, confirm your receipt of Frey's biography. I took time and $ from mu purse, specifically for you. Hope all else is well and on the up and up.



rwc~

by rodewc, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: Frey
I read it thrice, rwc~

by NEW ORLEANS LADY, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
I just wanted to check in a see how everyone is doing and I need to VENT--The "Beast" (part of my brain trying to lead me back to hydro-hell) has been rearing its ugly head for the past few days.  It's been 25 days and for some reason the "cravings" are especially tough this time-So far with the help of Rational Recovery and this board I have managed to keep the "Beast" at bay. My right arm and neck pain (I had an Anterior Cervical Fusion several years ago) has come back with a vengance and my stomach is messed up because of all of the Advil I'm taking.  I know this is no excuse to try and get a refill of the hydrocodone--The "Beast" keeps whispering in my ear---"All of your discomfort can disappear with just one little hydro--No one will know"----Wait a minute I'll KNOW--Take Care Everyone--Keep up the fight--Peace/Prayers N.O. Lady AKA Mystere



Anne

by Hopefulone, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: Anne
Way to go Anne...day 25 is the day my cravings started after I last had gotten clean. I gave in at day 30, telling myself "just this once for the pain"....then it only took a few months for my abuse to be double what it used to be.



You are three weeks clean, you are on the other side! I'm proud (and envious) of you, so hang in there and keep the beast at bay.



Karen

by peaz, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: rodewc/Anne
Hi guys-- I am not quite halfway thru the Frey book and it is AWESOME!   His description is so stark and potent: I just cannot imagine such an experience.  How did he ever survive???!!

   Anne, honey--you recognize those "false voices", so  give 'em the gate and  quit entertaining them in your mind...Is the IBU working except for the stomach ****? I mean, does it take care of the pain?  What has your doc suggested that would be non-narcotic?  Anything?

    Try to re-focus and get your determination front and center again, because it soulnds like you're struggling a bit....Don't get scared--get MAD!! Look at that little angel your husband (does HE have a name, too???LOL)  gave you and think of how proud you have made him and how much you want to do the right thing  for the two of you and your lives together.  The damn cravings will pass and if you can wait it out just a BIT more--you will be on a more even keel and it will be a little easier. So--HANG IN THERE>  DON'T USE>>>> Write me if you want--I am a good venting apparatus......LOL take care, sweets--Love, Peazy

by Kritty, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
Hi everyone-

    

     I have not posted on this forum in quite a few months. I went to rehab in January and I am 5 months clean from a 20 a day lortab addiction. I go to NA meetings and I have a sponsor but something happened today. The first time in 5 months I had severe pain and I took a lortab and absolutely hated every minute. I cannot believe the amount of pills I use to take. I have been exercising, eating right, acupuncture, massage....the whole nine yards and after I did this today to relieve the pain I was upset and couldn't wait for the **** to get out of my system. Does this mean I relapsed? I went to a meeting tonight and didn't share about what I did. I know because I know me that I will never touch that **** again. I have had the best 5 months and I think i ruined my clean time. I need advice about this. Please give your opinions. Thank you



by passenbyhubby, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: kritty
I wished I could answer that question thats kind of why I posted this question about relapse so some of us greenhorns could understand just what relapse is but all the doc said was I answered my own question so then I would say no you didn't relapse you used it for what it was for and you have no intentions of trying that again so if I'm answering my own questions here then let me give you what I think .You haven't relapse pass it off for a try for the right reasons. You didn't like it so don't beat yourself up about and consider your clean time for what it is and I say CONGRATULAIONS you've done well.passenby

by peaz, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: Kritty
In my opinion, NO you did not relapse.  Lortab is intended to relieve pain. You had pain; you tried to get rid of it.  If you had taken a handful w/ no regard to how much or lost sight of just WHY you were taking it, then it would be different.

   Look: you have been clean for FIVE months!!  That is AWESOME!!! One stinkin' pill that's taken for pain DOES NOT preclude your time of sobriety and DON'T you let any of the NA people tell you differently. You are DOING GREAT!!!  You still have your five months (but may I suggest that you quit counting??  Really--what does it matter?? The important thing is that you're sober TODAY. So many get caught up in that fricken" number "and forget what's actually important)  Anyway---it's good to have you back and keep up the good work!!!  Peazy

by passenbyhubby, May 15, 2003 12:00AM
To: peaz
PEAZ YOU ARE JUST TO COOL.

by passenbyhubby, May 16, 2003 12:00AM
To: RGC
Thank you for your condolences and prayers. You ask me how I felt about heaven. well normally I wouldn't post this story I don't think to many people like you talking about GOD but since I posted this question I think I'll tell it.I almost lost Jeremy about three times before this. Once he was beaten so badly and left in the snow to die but someone he knew found him and brought him home to me.another time he was drunk and he plowed in to the back of a car going about 45mpr. he had passed out at the wheel. That time they flew him by helocopper to a near by hospital.Then right after I had surgery on my shoulder about the 1st of Aug he had taken so much drugs he was found on the side of a highway.Jeremy was raised in church and to believe in the love of GOD but at this time he wasn't sure anymore he had tried and tried to stop the drugs,vicodin was his DOC and he just couldn't stop this I didn't understand I thought if you put your mind to it you could do anything.I left the next day with my mother just to get away from all the trouble and my shoulder was giving me fits. It was his 25th birthday the first time in his life I had never been with him on that day. Needless to say he was upset and so was I. I prayed for him that day like I had never prayed before and I told God that day if he would just give my son a chance to get things straight with him and believe again and then if he wanted to take I would make myself live with it and be thankful he made his peace.well three weeks later another incident with drugs and this time he came to me crying saying he needed help we had a long talk and he went into rehab he was happier than I had ever heard him when he got out all my kids were together for one of the childrens birthday he had ask for forgiviness from them for all he had put all of us through and he got it from everyone but my youngest son with whom he was the closest. He had pushed him away and told him to stay away from him.my son said thats okay bro I understand, see he had stolen from him and the rest of us to get his vikes. He had been to church that day and told me everything was ok now between him and God.The following week he got a tooth ache his face was swollen and he was in pain the dentist said he couldn't see him for 9 days but gave him 60 vicodins for the pain. I seen him on Sat I could tell he was high and I started to cry he said mom don't worry when I get in to the dentist I swear this will be the last time I ask him if he was going to church in the morning and he said yes. I told him to be ready by 9:30 he hug me, said I love you and I'll be ready. I said goodbye and please slack off the pills.The next morning I woke up late which I never do and my huband said just finish breakfast I'll go get Jeremy.Five mins. later I sat in a kitchen chair and totally Zoned my daughter ask what was wrong I said he's went up to get Jeremy and no telling what he is going to find and she said mom why do you say that he's doing so good?I stayed in that seat without a word until my mother walked in to my kitchen took one look at me and said you already know don't you? my Jeremy was gone and God had given him that chance.So do I believe in heaven? YOU BET I DO. Do I believe my son is looking down at me with love? YES SIR I DO. Am I ashamed? YES I am but he understands. He's wore these shoes before.

by passenbyhubby, May 16, 2003 12:00AM
To: RGC
Thank you for your condolences and prayers. You ask me how I felt about heaven. well normally I wouldn't post this story I don't think to many people like you talking about GOD but since I posted this question I think I'll tell it.I almost lost Jeremy about three times before this. Once he was beaten so badly and left in the snow to die but someone he knew found him and brought him home to me.another time he was drunk and he plowed in to the back of a car going about 45mpr. he had passed out at the wheel. That time they flew him by helocopper to a near by hospital.Then right after I had surgery on my shoulder about the 1st of Aug he had taken so much drugs he was found on the side of a highway.Jeremy was raised in church and to believe in the love of GOD but at this time he wasn't sure anymore he had tried and tried to stop the drugs,vicodin was his DOC and he just couldn't stop this I didn't understand I thought if you put your mind to it you could do anything.I left the next day with my mother just to get away from all the trouble and my shoulder was giving me fits. It was his 25th birthday the first time in his life I had never been with him on that day. Needless to say he was upset and so was I. I prayed for him that day like I had never prayed before and I told God that day if he would just give my son a chance to get things straight with him and believe again and then if he wanted to take I would make myself live with it and be thankful he made his peace.well three weeks later another incident with drugs